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Old 22nd Jul 2013, 19:27
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if needs be that sort of thing can be cleared with a phonecall
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Old 22nd Jul 2013, 19:41
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if needs be that sort of thing can be cleared with a phonecall
Does not alter the fact LBA has not been cleared for BA B777/B747/B767 diverts

(namely due to lack of B747 handling, limited B777 handling and at peak times, lack of space to put a B767 or 2)

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Old 22nd Jul 2013, 19:54
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Seems odd that BA would not use LBA for these djverts given NCL takes them from time to time. Given they have diverted ac to mainland Europe surely it would make sense to use LBA as it now has a BA presence and has handled BA 747s Concorde L1011s etc jn the past. Also as the highest airport in the UK it is often open when the rest of the country is suffering from low fog. Just a thought!

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Old 22nd Jul 2013, 20:03
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Just seen LAX LHRs edit. Clearly the obvious reason would be lack of space at peak times! LBA is very short of apron space these days! In particular wide body stands are at a premium.
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Just seen LAX LHRs edit. Clearly the obvious reason would be lack of space at peak times! LBA is very short of apron space these days! In particular wide body stands are at a premium.
Exactly. Aircraft are being parked on a closed taxiway during the night as it is. Whilst its mainly peak morning times LBA struggles, its often the peak time for diverts should there be fog/overnight snow etc.

Also, whilst LBA *used* to handle B747's, it would likely struggle now given the space (the B747's used to park parallel to the terminal IIRC and thus take up 2-3 stands) and such.

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Old 22nd Jul 2013, 21:10
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I believe the recent PIA fiasco re using 777s on the ISB (still using A310s and on the one occasion a B772 was substituted it flew into MAN on the LBA flight number) resulted in the airport doing some work towards the unlikely event. If memory serves there are only 2 stands that could take a 777 without the tail impinging on taxiways. I cant remember which these were though.
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Old 23rd Jul 2013, 00:31
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I also struggle to see why in times of problems at LHR aircraft are diverted all over the UK, Ireland, and Europe but not to UK airfields which could well handle some of the traffic.

LBA is not the only airfield that doesn't ever get BA/Other diversions


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Old 23rd Jul 2013, 11:48
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Originally Posted by LAX_LHR View Post
I was not questioning what LBA can accept, as it can take an A330 or B777 is needed, however, it has not been cleared by BA for widebody diverts as of this time.
Sorry, I was referring to BA. We can accept a BA divert up to the size of a B767, they don't want the B777 diverting in.

I remember a few years ago in 2010 when LHR closed before LBA handled BA, they were going to divert a B772 to LBA which was accepted but the captain chose to divert to FRA instead.

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Old 23rd Jul 2013, 23:03
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Don't blame him. If you are not familiar with LBA and its runway hump you really wouldn't want to divert there onto a relatively short runway. A bit unfortunate for the pax though ending up in Germany, at least they could jump on a coach/train to LHR from LBA.
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Time to revive this thread seen as the CAA July 2013 passenger stats are now out

As seen over the previous few months Leeds/Bradford continues to grow. LBA handled 419,330 passengers in the month, up 13.5% on July 2012 with Air Traffic movement's up 3.2%.

The year rolling 12-month figure now stands at 3,115,658, up 6% on a year ago.

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Old 16th Aug 2013, 14:31
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The LBA continues to expand its passenger numbers and this is another good set of figures.Success breeds success so by giving their passengers the destinations and frequencies that they want, should see the numbers of passengers continuing to increase every month.That also increases the potential for other airlines wanting to fly from the LBA.This in turn could result in some new unexpected destinations in the future.
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Whilst not wishing to dampen good news, the trend upwards does have a potential hurdle. BA are not getting fantastic loads on their LHR route and if the theory that it is only a slot sitter is true then, with all their new long haul aircraft being due shortly we may see a slow down or even a fall in pax numbers. I hope not but it's definitely a possibility.
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LBA-LHR IS NOT A SLOT SITTER!!!

Rumor network fair enough. BA want LBA to be a success, but it's a case of use it or loose it.

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Old 17th Aug 2013, 18:08
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Next batch of Long hauls ex LHR to start to be announced shortly so we'll soon see.
When you have access to BA upper management and route planning about what is and what isn't slot sitters then you can afford to more definite.
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i'd imagine MAN would be the initial candidate for pruning with fewer frequencies and larger aircraft
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Any chance of Emirates coming to LBA or is thr limited runway a factor.
Maybe if it was a A330...
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Next batch of Long hauls ex LHR to start to be announced shortly so we'll soon see.
When you have access to BA upper management and route planning about what is and what isn't slot sitters then you can afford to more definite.
Bit condescending that wasn't it? (and I should know!)
The situation on what is and isn't going to stay is fluid, some will perform well, some not so. It's worth bearing in mind the new long haul arrivals will be used to replace very old B767 / B744s that are on their last legs. Any expansion will be, let's say "modest." Recent forays to ICN and HND have hardly set the heather alight and Chengdu is proving an incredibly slow burner.

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Leeds is a liitle constrained on future growth little more room to expand.
Unless they have plenty of slots left. Perhaps it needs to get some serious long haul in.
Emirates Dubai (A330). JFK they operate a 757 into Edi and Gla neiher with runways as long as Dsa though.
If road links could imorove there it should be developed as a regional Hub airport perhaps closing leeds by almagamating the two into that site.
Huge runway. Plenty of room for more terminals and plans for jetways.
Also got 24hr flight ops
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Old 18th Aug 2013, 01:32
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Don't know what you've been smoking this time onyxcrowle but can tell you now DSA will never replace LBA as much as you might want it too...

It's another pipe dream. By way we are not slot constrained and still plenty off room for more movements and extra passengers.

Who needs that long runway?
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In that case VickersViscount, you will have to take my word for it. I wouldn't post on here so adamantly about a subject unless I was in a position to do so. Believe me or don't, with that tone, I really don't care.

We are not suddenly going to start 20 new longhauls a day. We will not be announcing a 'batch' of new longhaul destinations. Over the next 3 or so years, we will be announcing 1-3 new longhauls a year. Not all new longhauls will be standalone, some will be tags to existing flights. The plan is that these slots will be taken from OTHER domestic and european flights.

All this is fluid, however, LBA was never 'started with the intention of being cut as soon as our 20 new longhauls a day start'. We're not all armchair execs on here you know...

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