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Old 27th Apr 2010, 09:40
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The recomendations from Leeds City Council have already been put into place with regards to cutting back the flights from 3 to 2 and the flights being brought forward. The only thing left now would be to change the aircraft to the 772. Will PIA do this???
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Old 27th Apr 2010, 20:19
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It's possible, the market was there for 3 weekly flights by A310 so a twice weekly 772 flight would cover the same amount of pax with some growth. The big question is could the 772 operate from LBA with a useful load? The 773 obviously can't given PK775/6 is a 773 at the moment post Ash Cloud and is having to operate ex MAN! Finding a free 772 could be a problem as the 6 they operate are 4 ERs and 2LRs, I suspect they are all fully utilised and therefore need some tweaks to schedules or leasing of an additional ac. I'd be surprised if they used the LRs as they would probably be better utilised on their longer runs. We will see!
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 19:21
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I'm hearing that PIA are in fact trying to secure some more 772s. JAL has been mentioned as a possible source, though these have different engines(lower power) than most of PIAs aircraft. I would have thought the 110/115 GEs PIA have currently would be better suited to LBA ops.
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Old 29th Apr 2010, 21:29
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TCX Summer 2011

RHO is dropped for next Summer but KGS makes a return after 18 years, last operated by SunJet (was it called Sunjet?) for Sunseekers Holidays. Everything else is the same really.
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yes, it was Sunjet that operated for Sunseeker Holidays. a while ago, someone kindly posted a link of the aircraft.


in fact, here is the link.......

Photos: Boeing 737-3Q8 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

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Old 30th Apr 2010, 09:28
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"...PIA are very safe..." Oh really? I suggest you go tell MAN ATC that!
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Old 1st May 2010, 13:41
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Leeds

Had a nice flight out of and into Leeds last week. Very quick collection of luggage etc, in fact, from landing and parking on the stand to getting in the car, after collecting luggage and using the shuttle bus to the car park, the total time was only 24 mins! Great stuff, unlike my last trip at Manchester with over 70 minutes waiting for luggage!

Blackpool in a few weeks - might be even quicker!
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Old 1st May 2010, 13:59
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Ur what? Check my post 1001 - where do I mention the word "safe".

I was commenting on the fact that the 777 operation at BHX keeps
reasonable time, granted depending on the definition of reasonable I suppose.

I can think of one major non-weather delay in the last 12 months
but as for "safe", I have no idea.

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Old 1st May 2010, 14:03
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I flew with Ryanair yesterday on the 6 20 Dublin flight.We boarded the aircraft,taxied to end of runway,sat for a while then taxied back to the apron.

We got off the aircraft,and straight onto the other Ryanair plane,along with the cabin crew,once luggage transfered,off we went,just over an hour late.

This has never happened to me before,and was just wondering if anyone knew the reasons for it.An announcement was made by the flightdeck,but it was inaudible.

As a side note,I notice that the Airport bus to Leeds has changed the time of the last bus.It now operates 21 55,22 55,and the last one 23 45.
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Old 1st May 2010, 14:48
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Being involved with the handling of their crew's ex BHX, totally agree with your review and comments. On time performance for this last year has been very good indeed. Just a slight sad we could not continue with the translantic transits from a few years ago when we had some 14 flights (in and out) a week

Anyway, there is currently extra flight this Monday, at the moment scheduled 12:30 arrival, 14:30 depart
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Old 1st May 2010, 17:31
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I was on the return Palma LBA flight yesterday which arrived in Palma an hour late and the crew explained the reason to be an aircraft change, but gave no clue as to what the problem was. In the end it was a good flight back and a very smooth transit from aircraft to car park shuttle bus.
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This has never happened to me before,and was just wondering if anyone knew the reasons for it.An announcement was made by the flightdeck,but it was inaudible.
A combination of poor organisation on Ryanair's behalf and no communication from Ryanair to Servisair. You were boarded onto the wrong aircraft as Ryanair failed to notify of the aircraft swap, once it was realised that the wrong aircraft had the Dublin passengers, bags and crew on it was already taxiing out. As you said, you were then brought in and taken off one aircraft and put onto the correct one. In the mean time 130 Nantes passengers were being held watching it all happen, in the end they were kept up at Gate 5 (Designed for no more than 80 passengers) for nearly an hour.

An extremely set up which was thought highly comical from airport staffs point of view, of course not in the passengers mind though! These silly little errors seem to happen a hell of a lot considering its a small base with only two aircraft!

One Nantes passenger summed it up perfectly "Well thats Ryanair for you". Couldn't have put it better myself!
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Old 2nd May 2010, 06:58
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Righthandrule, I'm still can't understand why they had to swap. What is the difference between the two aircraft?
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Old 2nd May 2010, 09:20
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They probably wanted the other aircraft in Dublin to carry out maintenance. It has to be done sometimes.
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POL1W is correct. we sometimes operate aircraft to our larger bases (DUB, STN ect) then leave it there then take one of theirs , usually for maintenance, which to do it in 25 minutes without a delay is quite a challenge!
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yer my brother was the depacher for the leeds bradford to nantes and he said the dublin plane was needed on the nantes flight because the plane which was go to nantes had a problem with one for the full tanks to i was needed in dublin for repare so thay had to change it at the last minute
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Old 2nd May 2010, 11:42
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I understand those kind of reasons! What I can't figure is that an OFP (Operational Flight Plan) would have been produced for a particular registration of A/C. (By Ryanair Ops), so the crew would accordingly prepare this Aircraft. How can an aircraft then get to the end of the runway and be called back???
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as was said in a few posts back.thats ryanair for you.
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Chitty is correct, there was something amiss with the fuel tanks and the aircraft couldn't carry enough fuel to get to Nantes. Dublin was in its range and of course once there it got the required maintainance. Obviously Ryanair Ops should've been aware but these things happen. And yes righthandrule, Jet2 are just as bad, changing LIRFs last minute and not informing the baggage lads in time causing delays and not to mention your very own secret aircraft changes that no-one outside Jet2 Ops knows about...
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(Quote from mooncrest) I'm at a loss to see what, if anything, Bridgepoint have done to enhance LBA since they bought the place. Apart from building yet another long stay car park a mile from the terminal I haven't seen any changes.

I'n beginning to agree with those folk who say that the wrong company bought LBA. Sadly, I fear there will be little significant investment before Bridgepoint decide to do a runner. We'd probably be close to getting a brand new terminal now instead of the fudge that is the latest attempt to do up the existing one. Incidentally, when is this going to happen ? Just wish they'd taken a leaf out of BHX's book circa 1984 and started again when it was obvious the old terminal couldn't be expanded or improved any more. But no.

Amazing how an indeterminate amount of bg about behind the scenes results in a vast amount of nowt front of house.





I have to agree with Mooncrest, Leeds city council screwed the airport by going for the highest bidder and not for the good of the city of Leeds, the sooner this bunch of jokers go and a proper company can come in the better

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