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24,000 passengers?
The press release says 24,000 pax. That means its B737-300 on all days with an AVERAGE load factor of 85%. So bmibaby must be getting rid of all B737-500's
Ryanair is interested in BOH but there are some routes Ryanair would never do which would allow bmibaby to consider:
AMSTERDAM (a thick profitable route for BOH)
PARIS
NICE (a match for the catchment of BOH - wealthy, older)
PRAGUE
BELFAST (Jet2 tried daily - would be better 1-3-5-7)
GLASGOW (plug a gap left by FR stopping PIK - 2008 128,000 pax on this)
MANCHESTER (a much needed link between South Coast & MAN)
KNOCK (Large catholic and irish population in and around BOH)
BORDEAUX (huge amount of 2nd home owners in this region from BOH)
ALMERIA (a match for the catchment of BOH - wealthy, older)
Ryanair is interested in BOH but there are some routes Ryanair would never do which would allow bmibaby to consider:
AMSTERDAM (a thick profitable route for BOH)
PARIS
NICE (a match for the catchment of BOH - wealthy, older)
PRAGUE
BELFAST (Jet2 tried daily - would be better 1-3-5-7)
GLASGOW (plug a gap left by FR stopping PIK - 2008 128,000 pax on this)
MANCHESTER (a much needed link between South Coast & MAN)
KNOCK (Large catholic and irish population in and around BOH)
BORDEAUX (huge amount of 2nd home owners in this region from BOH)
ALMERIA (a match for the catchment of BOH - wealthy, older)
Things are realy looking good for BOH, such a shame HUY has not benefited from MAGs airline connections 
New terminal looks nice, will BmiBaby be considering any further expansion? They seem to be strong at MAN and EMA currently.
New terminal looks nice, will BmiBaby be considering any further expansion? They seem to be strong at MAN and EMA currently.
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Very strong at EMA, but nowhere else, at the moment.
If it's just W-patterns to begin with, then who knows what may happen.
First bit of good news for a long while.
If it's just W-patterns to begin with, then who knows what may happen.
First bit of good news for a long while.
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Looking at the timetable for the end of July 2010 and EMA will need the following aircraft on the following days
Mon = 8 Aircraft
Tue = 7 Aircraft
Wed = 6 Aircraft
Thu = 8 Aircraft
Fri = 8 Aircraft
Sat = 8 Aircraft
Sun = 8 Aircraft
They could squeeze Fri down to 7 if necessary, but 8 are needed for most days... lucky us
Mon = 8 Aircraft
Tue = 7 Aircraft
Wed = 6 Aircraft
Thu = 8 Aircraft
Fri = 8 Aircraft
Sat = 8 Aircraft
Sun = 8 Aircraft
They could squeeze Fri down to 7 if necessary, but 8 are needed for most days
... lucky us
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Not bad, it's only taken baby 7 years to work out that you have to "own" an airport to make money and leave nothing for anyone else, meds aside and looking at the number of AGP that WW are running next Summer weekends they will dominate that route
Its early days yet, but looks like Hudson bay & Acbus didn't call it right on baby & LH
Its early days yet, but looks like Hudson bay & Acbus didn't call it right on baby & LH
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MAN-BOH
There could be some potential on this route especially for inbound VFR/Leisure to BOH for summer period.
bmibaby could make a daily route work departing MAN 08:00 arriving BOH 09:05 and then being in Bournemouth for the day flying out to Europe. Then returning to MAN in the evening. This would require a change of crew at BOH but not necessarily a based aircraft.
Lets face it, there would be little or no business traffic northbound but there would be leisure traffic southbound. Hence no need to have an early morning from BOH up to MAN
bmibaby could make a daily route work departing MAN 08:00 arriving BOH 09:05 and then being in Bournemouth for the day flying out to Europe. Then returning to MAN in the evening. This would require a change of crew at BOH but not necessarily a based aircraft.
Lets face it, there would be little or no business traffic northbound but there would be leisure traffic southbound. Hence no need to have an early morning from BOH up to MAN
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I agree that any BOU/North west link would be unlikely to be successful because of regular flights direct to SOU from both the NW airports. I travel to Bournemouth a few times per year on business from cheshire and since the direct cattle trains stopped I now fly the route LPL/SOU with EZE. There is probably more business and holiday traffic between the 2 areas than many realise, bearing in mind the major congestion on the M6 which makes driving the route a nightmare. However If there was a direct flight from LPL to BOU I would utilise it. I'm sure that some may also use a Man link if they live or work in that area. But overdall I doubt the numbers would add up unless the SOU routes diminished. Additionally you can be on the train in just a few mins from SOU direct to BOU. I feel that other areas of expansion offer better options for both BOU and airlines on what would always be a marginal route at best.
Speaking to colleagues on the south coast, its not just SOU in which there is competition, but the near proximity of LGW/LHR and the myriad of options available from there which dilutes BOU and SOU traffic, which is why it is difficult to have direct comparisons with airports in say the North East or North West.
Speaking to colleagues on the south coast, its not just SOU in which there is competition, but the near proximity of LGW/LHR and the myriad of options available from there which dilutes BOU and SOU traffic, which is why it is difficult to have direct comparisons with airports in say the North East or North West.
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MAN-LDE
The LDE flights have an allocation for most of the flights this summer, for at least 50% of the seats. They are expected to make a fortune so will be staying.
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I am still not convinced about the LDE
As a charter operation in 2009 it didnt sell very well.
Flybe had to put up with quite a few cancellations , against the original programme.
Yes a few peak dates will sell, but Titan, and Globespan have also a few flights on these dates.
On quite a few dates the pax loads were in the teens in 2009,ok on a charter, as the airline gets paid, but as a schedule ??????
As a charter operation in 2009 it didnt sell very well.
Flybe had to put up with quite a few cancellations , against the original programme.
Yes a few peak dates will sell, but Titan, and Globespan have also a few flights on these dates.
On quite a few dates the pax loads were in the teens in 2009,ok on a charter, as the airline gets paid, but as a schedule ??????
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But will Globespank be around then Sam ? And arent Baby meant to be bunkering down in EMA....Perhaps RYR should start a LBA-LDE schedule with some nice fat marketing money ???????
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Oh dear FDD
why doesnt one of the other BIG boys at LBA look at that. A little birdy, did mention that another carrier at MAN looked at LDE also offering a 737 300 !
TTG on line have some strange info on Globespan this PM. Lets hope they pull through. Maybe the BA strike will be the saviour of a few carriers.
why doesnt one of the other BIG boys at LBA look at that. A little birdy, did mention that another carrier at MAN looked at LDE also offering a 737 300 !
TTG on line have some strange info on Globespan this PM. Lets hope they pull through. Maybe the BA strike will be the saviour of a few carriers.
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baby fleet reduction, reduction
bmibaby have now had approval from LH to retain 2 of the 5 units set to be returned at the end of their lease. This means a fleet total of 14 for the start of S10 (an additional unit each in BHX & EMA) so i guess some jobs are safer?
bmibaby cabin crew are to get new more upmarket uniforms, not before time!!
EMA is back to thrice daily for 2010 on GLA & EDI not sure whether this means the end of the road for BHX Scottish services?
Summer program starting to look very busy out of EMA with some days needing 8 units but only 7 based?
Maybe there is light at the end of tunnel for baby, if so not before time
Merry Xmas to all
bmibaby cabin crew are to get new more upmarket uniforms, not before time!!
EMA is back to thrice daily for 2010 on GLA & EDI not sure whether this means the end of the road for BHX Scottish services?
Summer program starting to look very busy out of EMA with some days needing 8 units but only 7 based?
Maybe there is light at the end of tunnel for baby, if so not before time
Merry Xmas to all
You see the very smart uniforms of the Lufthansa owned Germanwings crew ...and then you look at the T shirt & Anorak of BMI Baby crews...............it says it all really.
The beautifully presented interiors of the GW A319 & then the tired B733s of WW :-( makes you want to
I am sure the WW operation is very professional, but the Germanwings operations is geared to ensure a slick operation ;presented to the customer at all levels of service.
The LH influence can only be a good thing for WW IMHO.
The beautifully presented interiors of the GW A319 & then the tired B733s of WW :-( makes you want to
I am sure the WW operation is very professional, but the Germanwings operations is geared to ensure a slick operation ;presented to the customer at all levels of service.
The LH influence can only be a good thing for WW IMHO.
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It strikes me that the BMI Baby crew can look as professional in their attire as they like. I've seen some look like they came out of a J class cabin and others that look like they are off to do some gardening!
As for the cabins - the older fabric seats (which seem to be in the majority) are life expired and are really quite uncomfortable for anything more than a short domestic flight.
What about the names the aircraft have - bit of a difference between the Qantus's majestic 'Spirit of Australia' and Baby's 'Ice Ice Baby' or 'Foxy Baby'.
As for the cabins - the older fabric seats (which seem to be in the majority) are life expired and are really quite uncomfortable for anything more than a short domestic flight.
What about the names the aircraft have - bit of a difference between the Qantus's majestic 'Spirit of Australia' and Baby's 'Ice Ice Baby' or 'Foxy Baby'.