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All,
Sorry to hear about the news.
Pure LIFO will definitely not be used by the company!
Baby is expecting it's next reduncancy criteria matrix to be issued very shortly ... the precedent for this was set by the company last year.
Good luck
Sorry to hear about the news.
Pure LIFO will definitely not be used by the company!
Baby is expecting it's next reduncancy criteria matrix to be issued very shortly ... the precedent for this was set by the company last year.
Good luck
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The announced cuts from January (BRU, KBP and TLV) free 9 daily slot pairs in LHR (although one of these is 2210-2300 - arguably not a prime slot).
The new LHR-GVA will take 6 slot pairs (but only two of the new departures - 0700 and 1640 - and one of the arrivals - 1600 - are anywhere near (within 30 min of) the newly freed-up slots). So there must be a lot of shuffling of other route schedules going on. And at least two slot pairs must be going somewhere else (any additional Star Alliance flying announced from LHR from January, other than GVA?).
The new LHR-GVA will take 6 slot pairs (but only two of the new departures - 0700 and 1640 - and one of the arrivals - 1600 - are anywhere near (within 30 min of) the newly freed-up slots). So there must be a lot of shuffling of other route schedules going on. And at least two slot pairs must be going somewhere else (any additional Star Alliance flying announced from LHR from January, other than GVA?).
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This is very bad news for those personel losing their jobs at their respective posts and I wish them the best of luck in the future.
However, it does look good for BA who will sure see a rise in their load factors on LHR-AMS, BRU and the other competing routes, as will carriers also operating the routes.
Doesn't the CAI route operate with a codeshare on the Egyptair flights? They operate heavies anyway and this will probably make the route stronger, unless they want a decent service and opt with the BA option.
However, it does look good for BA who will sure see a rise in their load factors on LHR-AMS, BRU and the other competing routes, as will carriers also operating the routes.
Doesn't the CAI route operate with a codeshare on the Egyptair flights? They operate heavies anyway and this will probably make the route stronger, unless they want a decent service and opt with the BA option.
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Legacy
Bishop's unholy legacy. I would wish that he feels some responsibility and shame, but I imagine the rotten blighter doesn't care a hoot. He's a rich person with a poor sense of morality. Not so unusual.
My sympathy to folks about to go. I was there with bmi, and it was a miserable time. None of us who were given the push ever returned.
My sympathy to folks about to go. I was there with bmi, and it was a miserable time. None of us who were given the push ever returned.
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As SLF that used bmi regularly from Teesside to LHR, just want to send my commiserations to staff, especially any that were Teesside based, don't know if any still remain.
bmi used to be an excellent airline when I first started travelling regularly in 2000, I am very sorry to see the state it is in now.
bmi used to be an excellent airline when I first started travelling regularly in 2000, I am very sorry to see the state it is in now.
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Sad news for all at BMI, I feel for those about to lose their jobs.
Hopefully those left at the top will now realise that it is time for some proper direction. BMI should be an airline primarily for business and the service provided should reflect that.
I am a fairly regular traveller from BHD and feel that the service has become very inconsistent recently. Lounges has been reduced in size and there are no real benefits to encourage customers to fork out that little bit extra for "business" class.
Aircraft seating layouts need consistency across the fleet, in order to provide consistent service. 1 flight the business cabin has mid haul seats and the next time it is basically an economy seat with a cabin divide. I would imagine those in business feel hard done by in these cases.
The benefits of the Y fare far too great. Free changes and lounge access, why lounge access? Better business facilities in the lounges and fast track security for business fares would be a great start. Restricting Y to only free changes would encourage more business class travel, at least until Silver Diamond status is gained.
Must say all the Belfast staff are always extremely helpful but are clearly restricted by decisions taken out of their hands.
Heres hoping BMI bounce back strongly. A few well placed changes could make a massive impact.
Maybe I am speaking out of turn, but to me as a regular customers, these are the main things I reckon could be changed to the benefit of the company.
Out of interest, a bit of research has returned the following. A320's DR & DS, A319's CA,CB,CC,CJ & CK are the leased frames. Presumably they are the likely candidates to go?
AC
Hopefully those left at the top will now realise that it is time for some proper direction. BMI should be an airline primarily for business and the service provided should reflect that.
I am a fairly regular traveller from BHD and feel that the service has become very inconsistent recently. Lounges has been reduced in size and there are no real benefits to encourage customers to fork out that little bit extra for "business" class.
Aircraft seating layouts need consistency across the fleet, in order to provide consistent service. 1 flight the business cabin has mid haul seats and the next time it is basically an economy seat with a cabin divide. I would imagine those in business feel hard done by in these cases.
The benefits of the Y fare far too great. Free changes and lounge access, why lounge access? Better business facilities in the lounges and fast track security for business fares would be a great start. Restricting Y to only free changes would encourage more business class travel, at least until Silver Diamond status is gained.
Must say all the Belfast staff are always extremely helpful but are clearly restricted by decisions taken out of their hands.
Heres hoping BMI bounce back strongly. A few well placed changes could make a massive impact.
Maybe I am speaking out of turn, but to me as a regular customers, these are the main things I reckon could be changed to the benefit of the company.
Out of interest, a bit of research has returned the following. A320's DR & DS, A319's CA,CB,CC,CJ & CK are the leased frames. Presumably they are the likely candidates to go?
AC
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Apparently, no A319's are going.................2 x A330, 2 x A321 and 3 x A320 are to be returned at the end of their leases.
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LHR Air Transport Movements By Operator
AIR TRANSPORT MOVEMENTS BY OPERATOR
ATMs per week - Typical week (pre cancellations)
WINTER 2008/09 % SHARE WINTER 2009/10 % SHARE % CHANGE
British Airways 3889 41.9% 3967 42.7% 2.0%
bmi 1072 11.6% 913 9.8% -14.8%
Lufthansa 430 4.6% 556 6.0% 29.3%
Virgin Atlantic 317 3.4% 284 3.1% -10.4%
Aer Lingus 274 3.0% 316 3.4% 15.3%
SAS 274 3.0% 274 3.0% 0.0%
Iberia 196 2.1% 154 1.7% -21.4%
American Airlines 212 2.3% 212 2.3% 0.0%
KLM 186 2.0% 186 2.0% 0.0%
Alitalia 132 1.4% 132 1.4% 0.0%
Air France 154 1.7% 154 1.7% 0.0%
Air Canada 126 1.4% 126 1.4% 0.0%
United Airlines 126 1.4% 126 1.4% 0.0%
Others 1,892 20.4% 1,880 20.3% -0.6%
Total 9280 100.0% 9280 100.0% 0.0%
ATMs per week - Typical week (pre cancellations)
WINTER 2008/09 % SHARE WINTER 2009/10 % SHARE % CHANGE
British Airways 3889 41.9% 3967 42.7% 2.0%
bmi 1072 11.6% 913 9.8% -14.8%
Lufthansa 430 4.6% 556 6.0% 29.3%
Virgin Atlantic 317 3.4% 284 3.1% -10.4%
Aer Lingus 274 3.0% 316 3.4% 15.3%
SAS 274 3.0% 274 3.0% 0.0%
Iberia 196 2.1% 154 1.7% -21.4%
American Airlines 212 2.3% 212 2.3% 0.0%
KLM 186 2.0% 186 2.0% 0.0%
Alitalia 132 1.4% 132 1.4% 0.0%
Air France 154 1.7% 154 1.7% 0.0%
Air Canada 126 1.4% 126 1.4% 0.0%
United Airlines 126 1.4% 126 1.4% 0.0%
Others 1,892 20.4% 1,880 20.3% -0.6%
Total 9280 100.0% 9280 100.0% 0.0%
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It is very sad news and i wish all of BMI staff the best of luck - its shocking its come to this.
On routes/slots....i did wonder what would happen in respect of BRU (esp as Lufhty effectively owns Brussels Airlines) and AMS in the longer term. Ive thought there was over capacity on AMS (BD/BA/KL), like there was in the past on CDG (BD/AF/BA) but am a little surprised by the middle east routes going.
Also i need to be reminded has BMI handed over the slots BA bought from BMI when they purchased BMED (I assume this has been done now).
I wonder if like some are stating its time to rethink the semi low cost model (paid for food /"one class" approach) that is offered on some routes (although there cant be too many left now where this is applicable!) and move back to a more traditional Econ/Business "Diamond Service" offering. It seems best to go with one offering to the customer and stick with it throughout rather than offer conflicting services
I know Germany and the UK are two very different countries but Lufthy has operated a hub and spoke multi fleet two class airline successfully for many years and has experience of turning around Swiss and will be embarking on the same with Austrian...so if anyone can the they should be able to.....even if there is unfortunately some pain to go through first like todays announcement.
On routes/slots....i did wonder what would happen in respect of BRU (esp as Lufhty effectively owns Brussels Airlines) and AMS in the longer term. Ive thought there was over capacity on AMS (BD/BA/KL), like there was in the past on CDG (BD/AF/BA) but am a little surprised by the middle east routes going.
Also i need to be reminded has BMI handed over the slots BA bought from BMI when they purchased BMED (I assume this has been done now).
I wonder if like some are stating its time to rethink the semi low cost model (paid for food /"one class" approach) that is offered on some routes (although there cant be too many left now where this is applicable!) and move back to a more traditional Econ/Business "Diamond Service" offering. It seems best to go with one offering to the customer and stick with it throughout rather than offer conflicting services
I know Germany and the UK are two very different countries but Lufthy has operated a hub and spoke multi fleet two class airline successfully for many years and has experience of turning around Swiss and will be embarking on the same with Austrian...so if anyone can the they should be able to.....even if there is unfortunately some pain to go through first like todays announcement.
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My thoughts are with the 600 that will be out of a job soon, but at the same time I can see this from the business point of view - it winds me up when Unions moan, what would they rather have? 600 lost jobs & the company survives, or the company goes bust and you've got 10000 or so lost jobs?