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BMI Regional do within the UK what Lufthansa Regional does in Germany, it complements the mainline operation, offering point to point low capacity high frequency routes. I think it still fits quite well, though time will tell. None of us have seen the books so I am sure there will be one or two surprises.
As for BYALPHAINDIA, one hopes you resist the tempation to post after coming home from the pub. The world has moved on and left you behind sir. Also, no one will take you seriously if you continue to punctuate with wee happy faces.....
As for BYALPHAINDIA, one hopes you resist the tempation to post after coming home from the pub. The world has moved on and left you behind sir. Also, no one will take you seriously if you continue to punctuate with wee happy faces.....
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Do you work for bmi? Maverick has posted the most sense on here or other threads so far and as a "rumour network" is entitled also to give his opinions whether backed up by fact or stats, it matters not.
Maverick is perfectly entitled to state his/her opinions but when he/she presents those opinions as absolute fact when it is almost entirely incorrect, then someone needs to point that out.
There is a whole world out there. Go and see some of it. Gleefully speculating about people's future in a company you don't work for and in an industry you know very little about is, quite frankly, a bit sad.
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I think the impact on VS is much greater than BA. VS is now effectively isolated. The public statement by VS offering a deal with LH was odd - very unusual for a company to make an approach in such a public manner instead of behind closed doors.
The very fact that VS made a public offering to Lufty, which as many others have stated is both unrealistic and unusual, is a clear realisation that they are now floating on a very small peice of thin ice!!.
It will surely be most embarassing to their legal team who are spending vast amounts of Virgin money to stop BA/AA/Iberia tie up !!!!!
I think the impact on VS is much greater than BA. VS is now effectively isolated. The public statement by VS offering a deal with LH was odd - very unusual for a company to make an approach in such a public manner instead of behind closed doors.
The very fact that VS made a public offering to Lufty, which as many others have stated is both unrealistic and unusual, is a clear realisation that they are now floating on a very small peice of thin ice!!.
It will surely be most embarassing to their legal team who are spending vast amounts of Virgin money to stop BA/AA/Iberia tie up !!!!!
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The people pushing the get rid of baby and regional line do not have German accents but have a mainline twang.
I could not agree more to that!
Unfortunately there has always been an undercurrent of ill feeling towards the regional and baby subsiduries. Different AOCs yes, although regional still uses the BMA callsign I might add! It amazes me how silly grown up people can get when discussing such issues that are going to affect us all.
The likes of MAVERICK1 feel no sense of camaraderie towards his fellow employees within the Midland group. You rather get the impression that some would gleefully enjoy seeing the group broken apart and people other than those in mainline loose their jobs.
As for the Embraerers operating out of Heathrow, they are only there because they represent good financial sense. Or would you prefer to see your Airbuses flying in an out more than half empty? It seems that the presence of the regional arm at Heathrow has been a bitter pill to swallow for some of the hard core out there.
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As far as baby and regional go will they seriously in your heart of hearts make LH money? You decide your answer is no then you will agree with every city analyist going!
They ought to clean up their own backyard before they pronounce on others'...
I suggest first point of call, some lessons in financial modelling....
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Lh have had people in the boardroom for some time now, and if regional was going to be disposed of would they have bought a new 145 and taken a lease on another? Oh and 3 year extention on lease G RJXR And 6 new fo's started last month with maybe 2 more courses before christmas.
How many new people at mainline lately? And as for the Emb moving out of Lhr don't hold your breath or you might go blue. Stuart Adams has said they most probably will be there all of next year.
And as for the sign mainline routes for mainline pilots that was in the crewroom, why doesn't someone grow up! It has been done for business reasons. If you got a prob go and talk to big nige turner and see what he thinks about it.
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How many new people at mainline lately? And as for the Emb moving out of Lhr don't hold your breath or you might go blue. Stuart Adams has said they most probably will be there all of next year.
And as for the sign mainline routes for mainline pilots that was in the crewroom, why doesn't someone grow up! It has been done for business reasons. If you got a prob go and talk to big nige turner and see what he thinks about it.
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What racist rubbish, the Germans won Waterloo for the English (Btitish), we fought them from 1914 to 1945, they were our allies for over a hundred years before 1914 and since 1945 they have fought with us many times. Get up to date SMB has sold his holding as he said he would in 1999, think positive BMIbaby has a future!
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Sadly though, the bmi brand is certainly not as strong as Lufthansa , and if it's long haul they're after from LHR, I'm sure they'd like to tell the world they're there!
As for negative branding, I don't think 'Heathrows second favourite airline' marketing nonsense helps too much... or have I missed the point????
As for negative branding, I don't think 'Heathrows second favourite airline' marketing nonsense helps too much... or have I missed the point????
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too many people in Britain dislike Germans
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The very fact that VS made a public offering to Lufty, which as many others have stated is both unrealistic and unusual, is a clear realisation that they are now floating on a very small peice of thin ice!!.
How is it surprising to people that now bmi is finally free to play, via LH taking control that VS would pipe up again and renew it's attempts at wooing?
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Virgin are isolated. No alliance, no feeder, no Bermuda 2 to protect them and an overweighted reliance on the American market. They are desperate to get more slots and it's the only way available to them. Personally, I don't think LH will play ball and Virgin will be left alone to suffer the current financial and world economic crisis. Consolidation is the thing in aviation at the moment. Remember, they nearly went under just under a month ago had HBOS not been rescued by Lloyds TSB, as stated by Sir Richard Branson on Fox News.
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It's not remotely close to the truth to say that Virgin Atlantic were in danger of going under. Sir Richard was grossly exegerating to make a point, and he was quickly contradicted by his own management.
Great story, no facts alas.
Great story, no facts alas.
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Guys.
Why such the big interest in this press release?
This information (The purchase of bmi) was announced last month. Nobody blinked an eyelid!
The facts are Lufthansa are purchasing the bmi group. Discussions between Lufthansa are continuing with SMB as to the way forward. SMB may still play a big part and the status quo may remain.
Lets keep to the facts. bmi is a brilliant dynamic company and has a lot to offer to the Lufthansa group. I can assure you all three subsidiaries are an integral part of Lufthansa's future plans.
More information can be read in Lufthansa's third interim report published last month. http://www.lufthansa-financials.de/s...3/ZB3_08_e.pdf
Why such the big interest in this press release?
This information (The purchase of bmi) was announced last month. Nobody blinked an eyelid!
The facts are Lufthansa are purchasing the bmi group. Discussions between Lufthansa are continuing with SMB as to the way forward. SMB may still play a big part and the status quo may remain.
Lets keep to the facts. bmi is a brilliant dynamic company and has a lot to offer to the Lufthansa group. I can assure you all three subsidiaries are an integral part of Lufthansa's future plans.
More information can be read in Lufthansa's third interim report published last month. http://www.lufthansa-financials.de/s...3/ZB3_08_e.pdf
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Virgin are isolated. No alliance, no feeder, no Bermuda 2 to protect them and an overweighted reliance on the American market. They are desperate to get more slots and it's the only way available to them. Personally, I don't think LH will play ball and Virgin will be left alone to suffer the current financial and world economic crisis. Consolidation is the thing in aviation at the moment.
Virgin has just posted an increase of pre tax profits for the first half of the fiscal year 2008 / 09 from 40 million pounds to 72 million pounds, Chief executive Steve Ridgeway told International Aviation club on Tuesday.
The carrier said it's cash position increased to 1.3 billion dollars (743 million pounds).
The carrier said it's cash position increased to 1.3 billion dollars (743 million pounds).
I can assure you all three subsidiaries are an integral part of Lufthansa's future plans.
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From yesterdays Sunday Times Luffty at LHR
Nothing new in this report, until the last para:
Bishop was not talking about his future last week, but those close to the 66-year-old say he has no plans to retire.
He owns the Hall, so what will he do? My money would be to merge the non LHR bits of Regional with baby, a total fleet of 40 aircraft, a head office at EMA, keep (the posh bit) of the hall and develope the rest into a conference hotel (the idea of BE & F1 is an idea)
The name baby will stay, its a strong brand in LoCo in the Midlands and he will pick it up off of Luffty for free in return for various other deals with Luffty over Luffty tech.
Expect a move to full low cost for regional (Dash) & 737-700 for baby with Luffty's blessing to blunt Flybe who off course are 15% owned by BA, Luffty may even retain a share holding in what remains
A lot more to come out in the coming months me-thinks and it wont all be bad
Bishop was not talking about his future last week, but those close to the 66-year-old say he has no plans to retire.
He owns the Hall, so what will he do? My money would be to merge the non LHR bits of Regional with baby, a total fleet of 40 aircraft, a head office at EMA, keep (the posh bit) of the hall and develope the rest into a conference hotel (the idea of BE & F1 is an idea)
The name baby will stay, its a strong brand in LoCo in the Midlands and he will pick it up off of Luffty for free in return for various other deals with Luffty over Luffty tech.
Expect a move to full low cost for regional (Dash) & 737-700 for baby with Luffty's blessing to blunt Flybe who off course are 15% owned by BA, Luffty may even retain a share holding in what remains
A lot more to come out in the coming months me-thinks and it wont all be bad