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Rumour has it BMI are going down to just one 757, the other is going back to Astraeus, surely if they start to use this 757 on short haul it will cost a fortune in crew and maintenance? Cant see the AEU crews wanting to drive back and forth to LHR daily! Maybe the contract allows for this, but is it worth it?
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Aeu crews will go where the work is. The 75 is the perfect mid haul beast for BMI. Half the cost of a 330 and goes almost as far with 160 plus pax. It could of course do it with 201, 221, 0r 233 config but I'm sure the Business pax would get upset on the way to Almaty or Freetown with minimal legroom!
Shame we are down to one 75 but it is clearly a result of rationalisation and also the economic downturn. The whole world is in the same boat. Doubly a shame because a lot of BMI flight deck seemed to be very interested in the 75 as an upgrade or transfer option. It would have been terrific to fly with them, but that seems to be a diminishing option now?
Things are very much in flux at the moment for all airlines, but like everything else, economic reality is a harsh taskmaster, and will not be denied.
We all have to justify our existence, or go to the wall. The right attitude goes a long way.
So driving to LHR is not a problem.
Ever.
Shame we are down to one 75 but it is clearly a result of rationalisation and also the economic downturn. The whole world is in the same boat. Doubly a shame because a lot of BMI flight deck seemed to be very interested in the 75 as an upgrade or transfer option. It would have been terrific to fly with them, but that seems to be a diminishing option now?
Things are very much in flux at the moment for all airlines, but like everything else, economic reality is a harsh taskmaster, and will not be denied.
We all have to justify our existence, or go to the wall. The right attitude goes a long way.
So driving to LHR is not a problem.
Ever.
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Or possibly because bmi don't actually need two 757's as they only really need the extra range on the Freetown and Almaty/Bishkek. I hear that using one on the Tel Aviv was a disaster mainly because of the standard of cabin.
On the subject of bags not being carried, as stated already most of the time it is down to not enough transit time between flights. There is another reason which is if there are to many bags checked in by pax and hence the a/c would be overweight.
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On the subject of bags not being carried, as stated already most of the time it is down to not enough transit time between flights. There is another reason which is if there are to many bags checked in by pax and hence the a/c would be overweight.
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Im talkin about local LHR-DUB/EDI/MAN/GLA bags etc, a A320/A319 overloaded with luggage on such short flights? Thats bull!
BMI delayed more luggage per 1000s passengers than any other airline in Europe during 2008 and that includes BA, somthing isnt quite right?
BMI delayed more luggage per 1000s passengers than any other airline in Europe during 2008 and that includes BA, somthing isnt quite right?
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That life with T1 & T2 i'm afraid!! BA figure in terms of lost/delayed lugagged have improved now most flight are from T5 and that has settled down, by 2012 when the new Star terminal is up and running things will improve.
The new German management may bring some new ideas (and contractors) to the problem.
The new German management may bring some new ideas (and contractors) to the problem.
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I don't think the operation could be described as a disaster. However I agree that the cabin on the 757 does not match that of the competition in BA. BMI must have known that and put the 75 on the route anyway.
On the flights I operated we experienced reasonably good load factors but probably not enough in business class to see a good yield.
The pax food on these flights is another issue altogether - starving was probably the better option.
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Exeng
On the flights I operated we experienced reasonably good load factors but probably not enough in business class to see a good yield.
The pax food on these flights is another issue altogether - starving was probably the better option.
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Re Lost luggage situ
one of our biggest probs for lost baggage up here are BA reroutes especially on our last flight of the day, we get quite a few and they never seem to come with thier bags usually turn up the next morning on the first BA flt
one of our biggest probs for lost baggage up here are BA reroutes especially on our last flight of the day, we get quite a few and they never seem to come with thier bags usually turn up the next morning on the first BA flt
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As we all know everyone one is loosing money but you couldnt ask to have a better owner than LH in this current downturn.
The fact we may be hit bad this year is no different to anyone else's position regardless of the size of lose and I wouldnt be put off by this.
Remember its been rudderless for a long time and the staff had no good news for a long time, no expansion when everyone else grew and no direction just reaction.
I think big changes are coming in the next couple of years.
The slots are its bets asset that is no secret but the key is what can/will be done with them.
We may take heavy losses next year but I wouldnt write them off just yet after all Wolfy isnt going to let it loose the slots or any more money and hes in it for the long term and he hasn't make a bad bet!
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Times online 27/12/08
The sky's the limit for Wolfgang Mayrhuber, chief executive of Lufthansa. Not only is the German airline taking control of bmi, the British carrier, on January 12, but it also wants to swoop for Austrian Airlines, and SAS, the Scandinavian airline.
Mr Mayrhuber, 60, who has been running Lufthansa since 2001, is buying up rivals across Europe with a speed and certainty that Willie Walsh - his counterpart at British Airways, who is still trying for a merger with Iberia after months of negotiations - can only dream of.
Air France-KLM, Lufthansa's other European rival, has also been left reeling by Mr Mayrhuber's speed of turn. He may soon head Europe's largest airline if Lufthansa's takeover of Austrian Airlines is approved by the European Union, leap-frogging Air France-KLM. Lufthansa agreed to acquire the state's 41.6 per cent stake in Austrian Airlines on December 5, paving the way for a full takeover. Earlier this month, the Austrian Government gave its approval to a deal that will see it take on some of the carrier's debt.
Lufthansa has indicated that its biggest task for 2009 will be to turnaround struggling bmi, which Mr Mayrhuber invested in partly to get hold of the airline's lucrative Heathrow landing slots. He said this month that he would not make any decisions about acquiring the remaining 20 per cent of bmi until he has turned the airline into a profit-making carrier.
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“Afterwards, we can look at long-term strategic options, which are offered us through bmi's strong positioning at London's Heathrow airport,” he said.
Lufthansa's chief also boasted that his airline does not have financing concerns, unlike some of its rivals.
Reportedly also on Mr Mayrhuber's 2009 to-do list is a long-term buyout of SAS.
Lufthansa and SAS have been in on-off merger talks since the autumn, but the pair never quite got there. The situation is complicated by the fact that the governments of Sweden, Norway and Denmark together hold 50 per cent of the Scandinavian carrier, so Mr Mayrhuber must secure their approval.
And in the background are two even bigger fish: Alitalia and Virgin Atlantic.
Lufthansa has been vying with Air France-KLM to strike an alliance with the bankrupt Italian flag-carrier and, in the medium term, Sir Richard Branson's British airline looks like an excellent prospect for a strategic alliance.
The fact we may be hit bad this year is no different to anyone else's position regardless of the size of lose and I wouldnt be put off by this.
Remember its been rudderless for a long time and the staff had no good news for a long time, no expansion when everyone else grew and no direction just reaction.
I think big changes are coming in the next couple of years.
The slots are its bets asset that is no secret but the key is what can/will be done with them.
We may take heavy losses next year but I wouldnt write them off just yet after all Wolfy isnt going to let it loose the slots or any more money and hes in it for the long term and he hasn't make a bad bet!
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Keepitlit
Times online 27/12/08
The sky's the limit for Wolfgang Mayrhuber, chief executive of Lufthansa. Not only is the German airline taking control of bmi, the British carrier, on January 12, but it also wants to swoop for Austrian Airlines, and SAS, the Scandinavian airline.
Mr Mayrhuber, 60, who has been running Lufthansa since 2001, is buying up rivals across Europe with a speed and certainty that Willie Walsh - his counterpart at British Airways, who is still trying for a merger with Iberia after months of negotiations - can only dream of.
Air France-KLM, Lufthansa's other European rival, has also been left reeling by Mr Mayrhuber's speed of turn. He may soon head Europe's largest airline if Lufthansa's takeover of Austrian Airlines is approved by the European Union, leap-frogging Air France-KLM. Lufthansa agreed to acquire the state's 41.6 per cent stake in Austrian Airlines on December 5, paving the way for a full takeover. Earlier this month, the Austrian Government gave its approval to a deal that will see it take on some of the carrier's debt.
Lufthansa has indicated that its biggest task for 2009 will be to turnaround struggling bmi, which Mr Mayrhuber invested in partly to get hold of the airline's lucrative Heathrow landing slots. He said this month that he would not make any decisions about acquiring the remaining 20 per cent of bmi until he has turned the airline into a profit-making carrier.
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BAA prospects for Gatwick sale look bumpy
“Afterwards, we can look at long-term strategic options, which are offered us through bmi's strong positioning at London's Heathrow airport,” he said.
Lufthansa's chief also boasted that his airline does not have financing concerns, unlike some of its rivals.
Reportedly also on Mr Mayrhuber's 2009 to-do list is a long-term buyout of SAS.
Lufthansa and SAS have been in on-off merger talks since the autumn, but the pair never quite got there. The situation is complicated by the fact that the governments of Sweden, Norway and Denmark together hold 50 per cent of the Scandinavian carrier, so Mr Mayrhuber must secure their approval.
And in the background are two even bigger fish: Alitalia and Virgin Atlantic.
Lufthansa has been vying with Air France-KLM to strike an alliance with the bankrupt Italian flag-carrier and, in the medium term, Sir Richard Branson's British airline looks like an excellent prospect for a strategic alliance.
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Rudderless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Might be rudderless for a bit longer, a Regional bod in the cafe at Leeds said the LH takeover was on hold until the approval of LH take over of Austrian was complete and that could run until March 09, in the meantime the management in Aberdeen have been told they can't run any courses or upgrades without approval from the bmi CEO & FD
Might be rudderless for a bit longer, a Regional bod in the cafe at Leeds said the LH takeover was on hold until the approval of LH take over of Austrian was complete and that could run until March 09, in the meantime the management in Aberdeen have been told they can't run any courses or upgrades without approval from the bmi CEO & FD
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To compare bmi and Alitalia is irresponsible to the last. Alitalia has been operating at a loss for years mainly due to its ridiculous unions. It has zero capital and has been run into the ground by Marxist fools!
bmi on the other hand is fairing no worse than any other medium sized airline in the present climate, yes it'll make a loss for this year and probably next,but it'll get back on its feet when Lufty start to improve the brand; but is very lean and has been for years, it made a profit last year and has a sizeable chunk of cash in the bank. These careless speculators are irresponsible and not only have they talked us into a recession but they also send good companies to the wall!
bmi on the other hand is fairing no worse than any other medium sized airline in the present climate, yes it'll make a loss for this year and probably next,but it'll get back on its feet when Lufty start to improve the brand; but is very lean and has been for years, it made a profit last year and has a sizeable chunk of cash in the bank. These careless speculators are irresponsible and not only have they talked us into a recession but they also send good companies to the wall!
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The longer bmi remains without someone fixed at the helm then it will do the company no good. There is already a growing un ease of what may happen when LH have control.
The airline is loosing its way a little too, which is not good. Is bmi a shot haul airline or Med haul airline and what does bmi stand for and how does the brand stand up in this climate to the likes of BA.
What do people think of, when they come acorss bmi.
I see and hear far to many people surprised bmi that fly to CAI, TLV and many others. The publin still think bmi 'British Midland' domestic, and europe only.
The company does not bangs it own drum enough and make people stand up and take note of what bmi stands for and what it does. What is different about bmi??? I struggle.
What is the compaines mission statement and what is its purpose.
What does bmi do that others dont? What is bmi's USP???
When LH get control, lets hope they do something to correct this and make a world airline that is known world wide.
The airline is loosing its way a little too, which is not good. Is bmi a shot haul airline or Med haul airline and what does bmi stand for and how does the brand stand up in this climate to the likes of BA.
What do people think of, when they come acorss bmi.
I see and hear far to many people surprised bmi that fly to CAI, TLV and many others. The publin still think bmi 'British Midland' domestic, and europe only.
The company does not bangs it own drum enough and make people stand up and take note of what bmi stands for and what it does. What is different about bmi??? I struggle.
What is the compaines mission statement and what is its purpose.
What does bmi do that others dont? What is bmi's USP???
When LH get control, lets hope they do something to correct this and make a world airline that is known world wide.
Last edited by Mr Flaps; 30th Dec 2008 at 14:24.