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Also from yesterdays Sunday Times article:
"BMI’s operations outside Heathrow - BMI Regional and a low-cost airline called BMI Baby – appear certain to be sold. The most likely buyer is FlyBe, the fast-growing Exeter-based airline that is owned by the Walker Trust"
"BMI’s operations outside Heathrow - BMI Regional and a low-cost airline called BMI Baby – appear certain to be sold. The most likely buyer is FlyBe, the fast-growing Exeter-based airline that is owned by the Walker Trust"
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except long haul out of MAN is being axed with 200+ jobs at risk!!
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People on this forum have jobs within bmi manchester, and are as yet unaware if any jobs are to be cut.
What is your staus in bmi? do you know for sure that jobs will be cut? have you been in the high level board meetings which has discussed the future at MAN?
Due to high yeilds, MAN-ORD does incredibly well for bmi, as does MAN-LAS.
People on this forum are willing on the closure of the MAN base, but you forget Lufthansa has been on the decision making board regarding routes since MAN longhaul has been in operation. Do you serioulsy think that if Lufthansa didnt rate the routes, they would have allowed them to stay in the face of LHR longhaul options.
The reality is, that a few people on here obviously have no idea about bmi operations, and are just spouting rumours for the sake of it.
Leave alone until a decision is made, due to this forum there will already be some people loosing sleep over the fact jobs may be cut, there is no need to add more presure to them!
People on this forum have jobs within bmi manchester, and are as yet unaware if any jobs are to be cut.
What is your staus in bmi? do you know for sure that jobs will be cut? have you been in the high level board meetings which has discussed the future at MAN?
Due to high yeilds, MAN-ORD does incredibly well for bmi, as does MAN-LAS.
People on this forum are willing on the closure of the MAN base, but you forget Lufthansa has been on the decision making board regarding routes since MAN longhaul has been in operation. Do you serioulsy think that if Lufthansa didnt rate the routes, they would have allowed them to stay in the face of LHR longhaul options.
The reality is, that a few people on here obviously have no idea about bmi operations, and are just spouting rumours for the sake of it.
Leave alone until a decision is made, due to this forum there will already be some people loosing sleep over the fact jobs may be cut, there is no need to add more presure to them!
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we've been hearing for years that manchester L/H will be closing down and that the aircrafts will be off down to LHR, they (some of the heathrow crew) seem to relish in the fact that we will be made redundant, what they fail to realise is that they will not get trans-atlantic routes or any other longhaul route out of LHR for the foreseeable future, they'll only have the mid-haul routes, so i think they should stop hand rubbing, if man closes (which i sincerely hope it won't) 200+ crew and office staff will lose out. who's to say that this won't eventually happen in LHR!!!!
many of us have families, mortgages and cars to run, i for 1 am having sleepless nights wondering if the inevitable happens, how i will get by.
lets what and see what wednesday brings, and nip these wild rumours in the bud. all bmi staff should be rallying around for each other not posting hearsay, 1 day it might happen to you, sleep on that 1
RANT OVER...................... FOR NOW
many of us have families, mortgages and cars to run, i for 1 am having sleepless nights wondering if the inevitable happens, how i will get by.
lets what and see what wednesday brings, and nip these wild rumours in the bud. all bmi staff should be rallying around for each other not posting hearsay, 1 day it might happen to you, sleep on that 1
RANT OVER...................... FOR NOW
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Spot on doris.
Its people like her that are having a hard time at the moment due to rumour spouting.
the LHR crews are just jealous that they never got the oppertunities that the MAN crews got. They get an LHR-PMI, LHR-FRA and so on run while MAN suddenly came from nowhere and got MAN-ANU, MAN-ORD, MAN-LAS and so on.
Like I say, Lufthansa has had more say in bmi routes for ages, and are one of the main reasons MAN longhaul exsists.
Granted, they are not fanatical about the carribean routes, but the last I heard, they wanted to transfer the carribean routes to some MIA and more LAS routes.
Openskies has been in effect for a while now, and where are bmi? thats right, there still at MAN. Its because LHR is a bllodbathy right now, with very few routes that will produce the yeilds required to warrant the suspension of the MAN base. Theres just too much competition.
bmi crews do not loose hope just yet, MAN obviously has something to offer otherwise it would have been closed already!
Its people like her that are having a hard time at the moment due to rumour spouting.
the LHR crews are just jealous that they never got the oppertunities that the MAN crews got. They get an LHR-PMI, LHR-FRA and so on run while MAN suddenly came from nowhere and got MAN-ANU, MAN-ORD, MAN-LAS and so on.
Like I say, Lufthansa has had more say in bmi routes for ages, and are one of the main reasons MAN longhaul exsists.
Granted, they are not fanatical about the carribean routes, but the last I heard, they wanted to transfer the carribean routes to some MIA and more LAS routes.
Openskies has been in effect for a while now, and where are bmi? thats right, there still at MAN. Its because LHR is a bllodbathy right now, with very few routes that will produce the yeilds required to warrant the suspension of the MAN base. Theres just too much competition.
bmi crews do not loose hope just yet, MAN obviously has something to offer otherwise it would have been closed already!
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"BMI’s operations outside Heathrow - BMI Regional and a low-cost airline called BMI Baby – appear certain to be sold. The most likely buyer is FlyBe, the fast-growing Exeter-based airline that is owned by the Walker Trust"
Why would Flybe be interested in a near self contained airline, who operate a very different business model with very different aircraft (they certainly don't like the 145's!) and would be marketed at an inflated price due to the fact that BMIR make good money. The 145's aren't worth anything due to the market being flooded with the things. Flybe would surely know that the aircraft are useless to them, and the majority of the crews would run a mile just at the thought of working under Flybe rules.
The only company that would really be interested in Baby (within the UK at least) would be Jet 2, and if you believe the rumours, they aren't exactly cash rich at the moment. Most LoCo's are grounding fleets for the time being, why buy more aircraft and give yourself the hassel of merging/takeover....
Just dosen't make sense other than for Lufty to consolidate its' purchase and merge the current route structure with its own, which basically means more routes for all involved.
Don't panic, yes times are changing, but for the better.
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it is so nice to see that people are pulling for the man crew,
yes we have had it good over the last few years, but if the operation wasn't viable, smb and co would have pulled the rug from under our feet before now, we still have an excellent passenger yeild to ord and las, even in the current climate, the anu and bgi routes are good, some days more like a staff taxi though lol, speaking of that..... where will all the staff go (many of them LHR) if these routes are cancelled??? not sure many people will enjoy jollies in baku and the likes, closing our routes means no decent "holidays" for the rest of the company.
LH must keep their options open re man and use the base as a feeder route from europe to the states, as many people hate transfering through london,
anyway i for 1 live in hope, hopefully the rest of us do too, manchester is an excellent base, with excellent crew and expanding longhaul out of manchester would be better that scrapping it altogether.
yes we have had it good over the last few years, but if the operation wasn't viable, smb and co would have pulled the rug from under our feet before now, we still have an excellent passenger yeild to ord and las, even in the current climate, the anu and bgi routes are good, some days more like a staff taxi though lol, speaking of that..... where will all the staff go (many of them LHR) if these routes are cancelled??? not sure many people will enjoy jollies in baku and the likes, closing our routes means no decent "holidays" for the rest of the company.
LH must keep their options open re man and use the base as a feeder route from europe to the states, as many people hate transfering through london,
anyway i for 1 live in hope, hopefully the rest of us do too, manchester is an excellent base, with excellent crew and expanding longhaul out of manchester would be better that scrapping it altogether.
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closing our routes means no decent "holidays" for the rest of the company
The Caribbean routes are losing money - as is Las Vegas! With the Credit Crunch hitting the Caribbean hard - down 30% on hotel booking this coming season alone - the foreseeable future is worse.
Far better to keep the aircraft making money on routes where the cargo carrying capability is used to better effect with good loads and high YIELD -The Near East with Cairo and TLV.
MAN will stay as a hub for bmir and baby but the rest will be used more profitably from next summer onwards.
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I think the time for speculation on what will or will not happen based on the previous few years of bmi's history is over.
We have a new owner with a f*****g massive trainset to play with, compared to SMB and Nige. Perhaps its time to just wait and see what Lufty have to say once January comes and the deal is complete.
In the mean time, perhaps the stirrers who seem to be enjoying winding up the Manchester crew could give it a rest.
We have a new owner with a f*****g massive trainset to play with, compared to SMB and Nige. Perhaps its time to just wait and see what Lufty have to say once January comes and the deal is complete.
In the mean time, perhaps the stirrers who seem to be enjoying winding up the Manchester crew could give it a rest.
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The long and short of all of the situation is that we are all concerned at BMI, Baby and Reg as to what is going to happen to us. There are so many variables that none of us truly know. Apart from the e-mail from the directors last week about the Lufty take over we have heard nothing. No information, no reassurance or plans for the future, which i feel in the current climate is a bit poor. What can we do though other than wait and see what deal is finally agreed on, and if SMB and Lufty have looked kindly on us in this difficult period of time.
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Well Done...
virgin cc wanabee & Doris1Well done!!!
It is about time someone started to realise how big this problem could possible be.
And at the moment people should be hoping that 200+ staff still have a job after wednesday.... Pull together and lets be there for each other because no doubt this is going to be bloody hard....
Are any of the crew going to the crew room on Wednesday or are all keeping well away??
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I'd love to go on tomorrow and see how our fate will be decided, but unsure as to whether the meeting is going to be behind closed doors or if we're welcome to air our views, but if it's already been decided, then why waste 1:- my breathe 2:- my time 3:- the fuel in my car to drive the 140 miles there and back.
I am trying to be positive for the sake of my family, but it's difficult. Lets hope tomorrows outcome will be to protect not just the man base, but ALL crew, f/d ops engineers, office managers etc, we need support now, from all quarters and all collegues.
I am trying to be positive for the sake of my family, but it's difficult. Lets hope tomorrows outcome will be to protect not just the man base, but ALL crew, f/d ops engineers, office managers etc, we need support now, from all quarters and all collegues.
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We are travelling back from SIN to DUB via LHR arriving LHR 05:30 on 11 Jan but SQ phoned us to say BD have cancelled flights and the first one on a Sunday to DUB is now 13:25 (first flight). Not wanting to wait 8 hours after a long haul we have been put on a much earlier EI flight. Just an observation but so much for Star Alliance and connectivity. I suppose in future there is always LH via FRA.
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Hud, this is what the report says, note the words likely & perhaps!! perhaps at this time you would be better just stating what has been reported.
"But if Lufthansa does win the day, it is likely to restructure bmi, perhaps dispensing with its bmibaby low cost operation, and it is equally likely to start transatlantic services."
Baby may or may not be sold, but with next Summer's program already selling well it is unlikely that anything will happen before Xmas, in any event the whole deal is subject to anti trust approval.
Luffty may well keep the prime (LH) slots and do something with another carrier, hopefully the FAQ fact sheet will be out from NT this week, he did a fair job in keeping the Bmed boys and girls in loop, so i would expect the same this time around
"But if Lufthansa does win the day, it is likely to restructure bmi, perhaps dispensing with its bmibaby low cost operation, and it is equally likely to start transatlantic services."
Baby may or may not be sold, but with next Summer's program already selling well it is unlikely that anything will happen before Xmas, in any event the whole deal is subject to anti trust approval.
Luffty may well keep the prime (LH) slots and do something with another carrier, hopefully the FAQ fact sheet will be out from NT this week, he did a fair job in keeping the Bmed boys and girls in loop, so i would expect the same this time around
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MAN Long Haul
People on this forum have jobs within bmi manchester, and are as yet unaware if any jobs are to be cut.
What is your staus in bmi? do you know for sure that jobs will be cut? have you been in the high level board meetings which has discussed the future at MAN?
What is your staus in bmi? do you know for sure that jobs will be cut? have you been in the high level board meetings which has discussed the future at MAN?
Yes, Yes and Yes.
