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Delays
The 757 is only doing one SFB a week so how can it build up to a 6 hr delay ?
The 757 has flown direct to SFB without a fuel stop as passengers on here have confirmed.
How do you know what GSM is doing regarding its ETOPS or are you just guessing ?
The 757 has flown direct to SFB without a fuel stop as passengers on here have confirmed.
How do you know what GSM is doing regarding its ETOPS or are you just guessing ?
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From the end of this month there will be fri-sat consectutive flights with short turns. In march there will be thurs-fri-sat flights, again with short turn
These are the flights people are worried about and rightly so. Unless you or the company can shed some increasing light on the ETOPS debate and replacement A/C that can get to SFB in a signle hop then there will be at least 6 hours delay on the saturday flight. And yes, that is a guess
Unfortunately GSM wont confirm anything so guessing is all pax have at the moment and so far its been remarkably accurate.
Using nothing more than common sence, some 'guessing' and a PC I posted a schedule about a week before the last 2 flights left Glasgow. No need to tell you how close it was as you've no doubt found it by now. Same math, same plane, same route until April and it adds up to delays.
Personally I hope my sched is a mile out and the flights are on time but without changes in the next few weeks I know which one I'd put money on being closer.
If you have more info that will prove every negative post wrong, please let the world know. Not only will we start singing Globespans priases
we might even look forward to our holidays.
We wait with eager anticipation.
From the end of this month there will be fri-sat consectutive flights with short turns. In march there will be thurs-fri-sat flights, again with short turn
These are the flights people are worried about and rightly so. Unless you or the company can shed some increasing light on the ETOPS debate and replacement A/C that can get to SFB in a signle hop then there will be at least 6 hours delay on the saturday flight. And yes, that is a guess
Unfortunately GSM wont confirm anything so guessing is all pax have at the moment and so far its been remarkably accurate.
Using nothing more than common sence, some 'guessing' and a PC I posted a schedule about a week before the last 2 flights left Glasgow. No need to tell you how close it was as you've no doubt found it by now. Same math, same plane, same route until April and it adds up to delays.
Personally I hope my sched is a mile out and the flights are on time but without changes in the next few weeks I know which one I'd put money on being closer.
If you have more info that will prove every negative post wrong, please let the world know. Not only will we start singing Globespans priases
we might even look forward to our holidays. We wait with eager anticipation.
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GSM SCOT - I would like to thank you for keeping us up to date on the GLA - SFB route. Your info has been very useful.
We are flying this next Saturday and I just hope and pray that we don't have a fuel stop as my missus hates landing/taking off and the only reason we booked this with GSM is because we did it last September in the NEOS 767 with no probs at all. If she knows it will be a 757 next week and possibly a stop in Bangor (she has bad memories of the last time we stopped there!) then it's not going to make for a good holiday!
I've always stuck up for GSM, even with a 5 hour delay going EDI - BCN on business last year but my patience is wearing thin.
All this buying/leasing planes which results in customer dissatisfaction can't be good for business and to be fair, if we get mucked about next week then that's it for me with GSM.
I know it's out of your hands but surely something should be done about customer care before it's too late?
Also, I heard a while back that GSM were launching an EDI - SFB route. This never came off which was disappointing as EDI is much nearer and easier than GLA.
Thanks again GSM SCOT, let's hope the 757 makes it in one hop!
We are flying this next Saturday and I just hope and pray that we don't have a fuel stop as my missus hates landing/taking off and the only reason we booked this with GSM is because we did it last September in the NEOS 767 with no probs at all. If she knows it will be a 757 next week and possibly a stop in Bangor (she has bad memories of the last time we stopped there!) then it's not going to make for a good holiday!
I've always stuck up for GSM, even with a 5 hour delay going EDI - BCN on business last year but my patience is wearing thin.
All this buying/leasing planes which results in customer dissatisfaction can't be good for business and to be fair, if we get mucked about next week then that's it for me with GSM.
I know it's out of your hands but surely something should be done about customer care before it's too late?
Also, I heard a while back that GSM were launching an EDI - SFB route. This never came off which was disappointing as EDI is much nearer and easier than GLA.
Thanks again GSM SCOT, let's hope the 757 makes it in one hop!
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757 - 767
The reason the GLA - SFB is operating on a 757 is because the 767 which was to operate the flights this month was damaged by a ground handling truck in GLA. When the 767 is back from MAN it will then operate as planned so there should be no delays due to fuel stops on route
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GSM Scot you say it will be a 767 and was once back it will that going forward, can you now explain to us all how the seating plan both myself and les booked seats on months before the 767 accident is for a 757? ie 3-3.
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If you booked and the seating plan was 3x3 then it was planned to be operated on the 757.
With the 767 coming back from Caracas as the contract was pulled by GSM the SFB was then changed to the 767 but then the aircraft was damaged so its back to the 757 till the 767 is repaired.
With the 767 coming back from Caracas as the contract was pulled by GSM the SFB was then changed to the 767 but then the aircraft was damaged so its back to the 757 till the 767 is repaired.
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OAG Cargo Schedule is showing....
Fri Feb 22 757 BFS BGR
Fri Feb 29 757 BFS BGR
Sat Mar 01 757 BGR
Fri Mar 07 757 BFS BGR
Sat Mar 08 757 BGR
Thu Mar 13 757 BGR
Fri Mar 14 757 BFS BGR
Sat Mar 15 757 BGR
Tue Mar 18 757 BGR
Thu Mar 20 757 BGR
Fri Mar 21 757 BFS BGR
Sat Mar 22 757 BGR
Tue Mar 25 757 BGR
Thu Mar 27 757 BGR
Fri Mar 28 757 BFS BGR
Sat Mar 29 757 BGR
and 757's until end of May
767's take over Sat May 24
I would think the 767 will be back sooner though!
HTH
Fri Feb 22 757 BFS BGR
Fri Feb 29 757 BFS BGR
Sat Mar 01 757 BGR
Fri Mar 07 757 BFS BGR
Sat Mar 08 757 BGR
Thu Mar 13 757 BGR
Fri Mar 14 757 BFS BGR
Sat Mar 15 757 BGR
Tue Mar 18 757 BGR
Thu Mar 20 757 BGR
Fri Mar 21 757 BFS BGR
Sat Mar 22 757 BGR
Tue Mar 25 757 BGR
Thu Mar 27 757 BGR
Fri Mar 28 757 BFS BGR
Sat Mar 29 757 BGR
and 757's until end of May
767's take over Sat May 24
I would think the 767 will be back sooner though!
HTH
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So what happens if the 767 is back by 24.4.08, we have paid £200 to pre-book seat that we choose, if its the 767 we wont get those seats as different layout, would we get the £200 refunded to us!!!! or put into the emg exit seats on the 767
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You'll get nothing, and after months of phonecalls and letters you'll be told to read the small print terms and conditions.
First Choice or Virgin (obviously on another date) might have been a better bet.....
First Choice or Virgin (obviously on another date) might have been a better bet.....
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'With the 767 coming back from Caracas as the contract was pulled by GSM the SFB was then changed to the 767 but then the aircraft was damaged so its back to the 757 till the 767 is repaired'.
Thats excellent news... but why, if that is the case, has another Globespan employee already stated that as soon as the 767 is repaired it is off on another contract?... Yet again we have conflicting information. Does the left hand know what the right is doing at Globespan or are even they 'guessing'?
All we want is confirmation of when and how GSM will get the finger out and show they can and will sustain a regular service ON THEIR OWN. If you are so certain of the 767 coming back, ETOPS being reinstated and all the current rumours and misinformation going away then give us dates... When will it happen?????
The summer season you mentioned could be May as far as the company is concerned but there are a lot of flights with a lot of passengers going before then.. Will they be affected, can the passengers start looking forward to their holidays in the knowledge it will be OK on their flight dates....Can they start enjoying the planning of their holiday instead of checking their insurance small print to see if they can salvage any of it?.
Until someone gives us all dates and we see it happen then we can only assume it 'guessing' by you and its business as usual. No ETOPS, 757 until A.N Other's planes are leased and delays. PROVE US ALL WRONG
'With the 767 coming back from Caracas as the contract was pulled by GSM the SFB was then changed to the 767 but then the aircraft was damaged so its back to the 757 till the 767 is repaired'.
Thats excellent news... but why, if that is the case, has another Globespan employee already stated that as soon as the 767 is repaired it is off on another contract?... Yet again we have conflicting information. Does the left hand know what the right is doing at Globespan or are even they 'guessing'?
All we want is confirmation of when and how GSM will get the finger out and show they can and will sustain a regular service ON THEIR OWN. If you are so certain of the 767 coming back, ETOPS being reinstated and all the current rumours and misinformation going away then give us dates... When will it happen?????
The summer season you mentioned could be May as far as the company is concerned but there are a lot of flights with a lot of passengers going before then.. Will they be affected, can the passengers start looking forward to their holidays in the knowledge it will be OK on their flight dates....Can they start enjoying the planning of their holiday instead of checking their insurance small print to see if they can salvage any of it?.
Until someone gives us all dates and we see it happen then we can only assume it 'guessing' by you and its business as usual. No ETOPS, 757 until A.N Other's planes are leased and delays. PROVE US ALL WRONG
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It clearly states on the website when you are booking any flight to SFB that there may be a fuel stop.
"Although unlikely, flights may require a brief fuel stop en route subject to weather conditions on the day"
Of course if you book by phone (as you are required to do if you have a passenger with special needs), you don't see any of this anyway.
Are you saying that the 767 would have been operating all the GLA-SFB flights if it hadn't been damaged the other week?
I do thank anyone who can keep us poor pax updated, I do understand that you guys can only work with what you are given. Still waiting for any positive news. I would really love to be on here in a few weeks making use of the applause smiley and saying our flights with Globepan were the best ever.
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I would think the 767 will be back sooner though!
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Les - If you are lucky enough to be on the 767 then consider yourself lucky. I would think the seat allocation would be of no significance so I don't know what you're bothered about regarding pre-allocated seats.
Just be thankful a 767 doesn't need a stop in Bangor
Just be thankful a 767 doesn't need a stop in Bangor
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dicannio10 - I would rather have a stop in Bangor than lose £200, maybe not a lot of money to you but it is to me.
p.s. before anyone says why pre-book seats when all this uncertainty I didnt know anything about the uncertainty, possible plane changes, delays etc when we booked, it was only a month ago or so I found all this out, if I had known then what I know now I wouldnt have parted with more hard earned cash to pre-book seat that I might not even get if it is not a 757.
p.s. before anyone says why pre-book seats when all this uncertainty I didnt know anything about the uncertainty, possible plane changes, delays etc when we booked, it was only a month ago or so I found all this out, if I had known then what I know now I wouldnt have parted with more hard earned cash to pre-book seat that I might not even get if it is not a 757.
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Don't bother wasting your time and effort with informed advice. Some on here are convinced the 75 will routinely go GLA-SFB non-stop.
What is most shocking is that many on here who claim it can and will are GSM staff.
Show them facts, figures & hard evidence and they react like I do to my phone bill - "I don't believe it...it can't be!"
Ostritch, sand; you get the picture...?
Stoney
Don't bother wasting your time and effort with informed advice. Some on here are convinced the 75 will routinely go GLA-SFB non-stop.
What is most shocking is that many on here who claim it can and will are GSM staff.
Show them facts, figures & hard evidence and they react like I do to my phone bill - "I don't believe it...it can't be!"
Ostritch, sand; you get the picture...?
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GSM SCOT
'The 757 is only doing one SFB a week so how can it build up to a 6 hr delay ?'
Well it managed 3+ hrs delay GLA- SFB on the 15th and 4+ on the return with no one running into it, breaking a window, loosing a wing or getting lost in the toilet so 6hrs should be easy on multiple flights per week
GSM SCOT
'The 757 has flown direct to SFB without a fuel stop as passengers on here have confirmed.'
Very true. But they were on an ETOPS routing, low load or favourable winds. Go non ETOPS and you are landing.. Whether it be to refuel or to scrape it off the ground, its coming down before SFB.
GSM SCOT
'How do you know what GSM is doing regarding its ETOPS or are you just guessing ? '
Yes we are guessing. Unforunately is based on the information posted all over this and other forums as Globespan are trying to keep it very quiet... So far everyones guessing its been very accurate. More accurate than anything GSM have provided to the contrary.
'With the 767 coming back from Caracas as the contract was pulled by GSM the SFB was then changed to the 767 but then the aircraft was damaged so its back to the 757 till the 767 is repaired'
And that could be some time by all accounts as the 767 has been in Manchester since it was pranged with no repairs being made..
GSM SCOT
ETOPS
'This will be restored in the near future but to be honest it isn't a big problem right now as there is only one flight per week that would use etops. It will be in place before the summer session starts though.'
And by 'near future' do you mean May per chance?
And you try telling the passengers on the upcoming flights who will be delayed 'it isnt a big problem'. Maybe not for GSM, but it sure as hell is for those passengers. You really havent been reading the posts have you?
And let me 'guess'... Summer Session... May again?
C'mon, give us some positive and accurate info and keep the company morale boosting tosh for those who will believe it.
'The 757 is only doing one SFB a week so how can it build up to a 6 hr delay ?'
Well it managed 3+ hrs delay GLA- SFB on the 15th and 4+ on the return with no one running into it, breaking a window, loosing a wing or getting lost in the toilet so 6hrs should be easy on multiple flights per week
GSM SCOT
'The 757 has flown direct to SFB without a fuel stop as passengers on here have confirmed.'
Very true. But they were on an ETOPS routing, low load or favourable winds. Go non ETOPS and you are landing.. Whether it be to refuel or to scrape it off the ground, its coming down before SFB.
GSM SCOT
'How do you know what GSM is doing regarding its ETOPS or are you just guessing ? '
Yes we are guessing. Unforunately is based on the information posted all over this and other forums as Globespan are trying to keep it very quiet... So far everyones guessing its been very accurate. More accurate than anything GSM have provided to the contrary.
'With the 767 coming back from Caracas as the contract was pulled by GSM the SFB was then changed to the 767 but then the aircraft was damaged so its back to the 757 till the 767 is repaired'
And that could be some time by all accounts as the 767 has been in Manchester since it was pranged with no repairs being made..
GSM SCOT
ETOPS
'This will be restored in the near future but to be honest it isn't a big problem right now as there is only one flight per week that would use etops. It will be in place before the summer session starts though.'
And by 'near future' do you mean May per chance?
And you try telling the passengers on the upcoming flights who will be delayed 'it isnt a big problem'. Maybe not for GSM, but it sure as hell is for those passengers. You really havent been reading the posts have you?
And let me 'guess'... Summer Session... May again?
C'mon, give us some positive and accurate info and keep the company morale boosting tosh for those who will believe it.