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Ryan, why would you think that this overstaffing is confined to Shannon only unless of course you are biased? EI has always been overstaffed and will be for a while to come as along as the unions and workforce from the old days are still there. Nothing to do with Shannon. Also, Shannon has a substancial cargo and maintenance workforce which doesnt exist in CORK. But yes EI are overstaffed, everywhere! Just ask MOL
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I am sure the EI Management are looking at the projected revenue and costs, in transferring the current SNN-JFK/BOS flights to BFS. It could be bye bye SNN far quicker than we thought
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Bertie was apparently interviewed recently and said that among the issues which caused the govt's support to plummet was the whole handling of the SNN issue; EI may take the lack of meaningful govt opposition to the axing of the LHR-SNN route as "carte blanche" for the axing of t/a routes, but given the likely political reaction, one has to wonder.
Incidentally, has Dempsey appointed two new members to the EI board, as he said he'd do, about two weeks ago?
Incidentally, has Dempsey appointed two new members to the EI board, as he said he'd do, about two weeks ago?
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some people will blame SNN for anything to do with EI..its the current whipping boy..especially where certain people are concerned. Sure there are issues but it being the reason for all high fares.. i'd be very interested to see figures for Cork and Dublin.. if anything staffing issues would be due to unions power not SNN as an airport and i'd be very surprised if similar situations didnt exist elsewhere
to blame all high fares on SNN is nonsense but you nearly expect comments like that at this stage
to blame all high fares on SNN is nonsense but you nearly expect comments like that at this stage
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Ryan, why would you think that this overstaffing is confined to Shannon only unless of course you are biased? EI has always been overstaffed and will be for a while to come as along as the unions and workforce from the old days are still there. Nothing to do with Shannon. Also, Shannon has a substancial cargo and maintenance workforce which doesnt exist in CORK. But yes EI are overstaffed, everywhere! Just ask MOL
Well said fullrich!
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Of course it goes without saying that overstaffing at Aerlingus was not confined to Shannon. However the changes in work practices that occured in Dublin and Cork earlier in this decade do not seemed to have been extended to Shannon.
400 employees does seem very high for the size of the operation there. Cork has 4 based A320's and gets by on a fraction of that amount. A similar imbalance exists in the numbers employed by Aer Rianta/SAA. ( 3 times the number at Cork with similar levels of traffic).
Any fair minded person will agree that the cost base at Shannon is very high for an airport of its size.
400 employees does seem very high for the size of the operation there. Cork has 4 based A320's and gets by on a fraction of that amount. A similar imbalance exists in the numbers employed by Aer Rianta/SAA. ( 3 times the number at Cork with similar levels of traffic).
Any fair minded person will agree that the cost base at Shannon is very high for an airport of its size.
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Cabin crew and maintenance don't seem unreasonable considering the scale of the Shannon operation. I can't really comment on the cargo figure.
Ground ops does seem high, but that is presumably where the bulk of the cuts will be located. With only three flights a day to be handled, third party handling would definitely make sense. I'd imagine that after Heathrow is withdrawn, the number of Aer Lingus pax going through Shannon will be lower than airports like Schiphol and Birmingham where third parties are used.
The fact EI are only laying off a portion of the staff rather than getting rid of ground ops (either through sale or closing down) while signing a third party handling contract suggests to me that operations are being wound down .
Ground ops does seem high, but that is presumably where the bulk of the cuts will be located. With only three flights a day to be handled, third party handling would definitely make sense. I'd imagine that after Heathrow is withdrawn, the number of Aer Lingus pax going through Shannon will be lower than airports like Schiphol and Birmingham where third parties are used.
The fact EI are only laying off a portion of the staff rather than getting rid of ground ops (either through sale or closing down) while signing a third party handling contract suggests to me that operations are being wound down .
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Who groundhandle for EI at BFS? I know Servisiair currently hold the EI contract dealing with diversions etc.
Ive also heard that EI are not to impressed with the Menzies handling at LGW.
Ive also heard that EI are not to impressed with the Menzies handling at LGW.
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Flew EI LGW-DUB a few days ago. Think most of the handling problems are just initial training issues - the EI PSAs are taken from the existing EZY agents. They're used to the comparatively simple systems used by EZY.
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Menzies are handling EI at BFS. Menzies are doing a good job for EZY there and I believe EZY are not impressed with this development. EI seem to be going out of their way to rattle the orange cage in BFS. Interesting and risky strategy. Just because historically EZY have rolled over for RYR in several bases does not necessarily imply they will follow suit in BFS against EI. EI is a very different and (so far where BFS is concerned) 'lumbering' animal. If EZY are on for a fight then EI can kiss all that bilge about first year profitability right out the window.
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DXB will be suspended from March according to this article
http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/...fx4310571.html
http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/...fx4310571.html
TA routes confirmed for 2008. Dubai "Suspended" from March.
http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/1107/aerlingus.html
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http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/1107/aerlingus.html
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Loss of DXB is long expected; disappointing that it had to go, but good to see frequencies improved on US routes, particularly SFO to daily.
EI is said to be considering a seasonal return to DXB, but that's highly unlikely if -as rumoured - EK comes on the route.
EI is said to be considering a seasonal return to DXB, but that's highly unlikely if -as rumoured - EK comes on the route.
Union serves notice on EI
SIPTU has said it is activating notice of industrial action to take place at Dublin, Shannon and Cork Airports, on Tuesday and Friday of next week.
http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/1112/aerlingus.html
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