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Old 27th May 2011, 21:12
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EI internal relations

You will find that the prevailing sense in HOB is that the operational staff (pilots, cabin crew, ground handling, engineers etc) are an annoyance and that they don't have the 'managerial skills' to make balanced decisions to ensure the smooth running of EI.

(Hence the fact that EI are looking at removing the redcaps/flight dispatchers position from their operation, or the fact that they have been chronically short of flight/cabin crew for the 2 months)
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Old 27th May 2011, 23:44
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Hey

God I have lost count of the number of rumours regarding EIs future fleet. New 319s, secondhand 319s. Before that it was E195s! Has there been anything concrete of is it all just conjecture.

I noticed that one of the early EI 330s is now heading to the scrapyard. With others set to leave with the aim of reducing the lh fleet it begs the question, are EI being short sighted in again focusing solely on a North American lh strategy. If there is a spare 330, surely it might be time to look at Mumbai, Islamabad, Lagos or even Rio as destinations which are within range and have a large potential market residing in Ireland?!

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Old 27th May 2011, 23:45
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LOL ASFKAP, they sure knew how to look after passengers back in the good old days
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Old 27th May 2011, 23:49
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I noticed that one of the early EI 330s is now heading to the scrapyard. With others set to leave with the aim of reducing the lh fleet it begs the question, are EI being short sighted in again focusing solely on a North American lh strategy. If there is a spare 330, surely it might be time to look at Mumbai, Islamabad, Lagos or even Rio as destinations which are within range and have a large potential market residing in Ireland?!
It left EI fleet in Feb and there is no spare A330 at all during the summer season except one aircraft on Wednesdays. Summer 2012 flights to US are on sale and it suggest all 7 needed like this summer so they wont be selling one this year.
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Old 28th May 2011, 01:56
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I noticed that one of the early EI 330s is now heading to the scrapyard.
That airframe was EI-ORD. It was previously with Air Inter MSN059 and was 17 years old when it went to the scrap yard. It was more valuable to sell off the parts than to sell it on whole. A similar situation happened when EI retired their 747's. EI-ASI and EI-ASJ were sold on (to Cabo Airlines in Nigeria) but EI-BED (former Lufty 747) was sent for scrap as there was more money to be made selling it in parts than selling it on in total.

And as from what Jaime2K9 has just said the schedule for Summer 2012 is set for ALL of the current A330 fleet to be utilized.

Now with that said, let's wish Aer Lingus and all its staff a very happy 75th birthday. Let there be no nay saying just for today please. Well done to everyone past and present for a great airline that has stood the test of time through the good times and the bad and tough times. Oil crises, recessions, restructurings, product changes, not to mention standoffs between staff and management - and there have been many!!! But well done to the staff in Aer Lingus for keeping the great brand and tradition of being welcome, warm and friendly - your management doesn't appreciate you enough. All the big players may have "the best of the best of the best" but there is no doubt that when you step on to an Aer Lingus plane you know you are welcome and that if you're Irish you know "You're Home".

Bravo to the staff and the management. Despite your standoffs you still have an airline that people enjoy to fly with.

Again Happy Birthday and here's to another 75 years.
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Old 28th May 2011, 10:39
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Happy Birthday EI

So, the ac which will reduce the lh fleet is one of the ex-Inter A333s, in which case it really owes EI nothing. I thought that a 332 was to depart also....am I mistaken?

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Old 28th May 2011, 11:39
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RE the ex Air Inter A333, it's ALREADY gone. Haven't heard that an A330-200 was going. Besides if rumours are true they'll need it for reintroduction of DUB-LAX next summer.
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Old 28th May 2011, 18:16
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This may not be available outside of Ireland,

RTÉ's Nationwide dedicated the entire programme to the 75th birthday.

RTÉ Player: Catch up with your favourite TV programmes online

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Old 31st May 2011, 10:12
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A week in EI.

1. EI celebrates 75 years.

2. FR puts ads in the newspapers thanking EI for 75 years of high fares, delays and strikes with accompanying photos of the staff on the march.

3. This morning, according to the RTE News, the pilots are going on strike next week.
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Old 31st May 2011, 11:08
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Pilots are not going on strike. They are commencing industrial action as the company is refusing to fulfil its side of the Greenfield restructuring plan.

Pilots took 10% pay cut, top 50 took early retirement to lower average salary, an increase in productivity was agreed in return for a system of rostering to maximise days off. (EI A320 crew normally reach their legal limts each year)

EI have taken the productivity increase but so far refused to implement a system of 5 on, 3 off, 5 on, 3 off. (Similar to what other carriers including FR use) EI are claiming that the pattern is 'inefficient for their schedule and staffing levels'.

The action will consist of pilots refusing to work on their scheduled days off or during annual leave. At the moment EI are constantly switching pilots days off and/or asking for volunteers to work as a form of fire-fighting for the operation. (Same with the cabin crew) I believe they will also stop taking phone calls from the company on their days off. All the recent EI hire-ins have been solely due to crew shortages.


This situation was preventable if EI mgmt had of actually addressed the roster problem last year when IALPA pointed it out to the company. Instead they wasted the winter season doing nothing. This dispute along with the earlier cabin crew issue is caused by stubborn EI HR staff refusing to take any suggestion from the staff involved.

As Christoph Mueller recently said:
"this is want happens when you suspend mgmt training for a decade"
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Old 31st May 2011, 12:39
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Aer Lingus pilots to strike from next Tuesday - RT News
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Old 31st May 2011, 13:47
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During Greenfield we were threatened with compulsory lay offs. Aer Lingus wrote to the Minister as required by law and stated that we had 139 surplus pilots. Since Greenfield was agreed and signed off 70 pilots availed of voluntary severance. At the moment around 50 other pilots (some captains but mostly first officers that have had enough) are in the process or leaving or have left. That means according to AL maths that we still have 19 pilots surplus.

Or perhaps they told the Minister porkies and really we are goosed and there really wasn’t a surplus at all? Next time you fly on an AL flight think of the 5 on 1 off that your pilots are doing. Within that 5 days or work you might also find that they are going from earlies to lates, minimum rest etc.

Apart from becoming a monumental management cockup this is fast becoming a safety issue and no doubt our incident rates will sky rocket, particularly since we have so many new recruits coming online and the trainers are being maxed out.
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Old 31st May 2011, 14:28
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@MCDU2 sadly, there is a general race to the bottom in employment conditions in Ireland in both public and private sectors. It appears to be the case that slaves and not employees are what is sought these days. Even more depressing for me is the fact that the general public cannot see this for what it is (e.g. have a read of some of the unsympathetic posts here) and people need to realise their job might be next in line for some 'austerity'.
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Old 31st May 2011, 20:26
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EIN don't need this, and frankly, it will just drive away the business travellers the airline is trying desperately to attract. Both sides need to realise that yet another season of discontent in the airline will likely kill it off and at that point the crews need not worry about T&C's and the management need not worry about flexibility from the crews.

I travel frequently with EIN and the uncertainty of booking with EIN is driving me towards other more reliable options (and no, I don't mean FR).
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Old 4th Jun 2011, 16:11
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One "intangible" - or THE intangible - asset when flying EI is the total lack of stress, compared to FR.

Above quote from a poster here a few weeks ago. Tell that to the 30,000 a day passengers worried that their holidays or other trips may be cancelled next week. Can anyone here in the know give them some hope?
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Old 4th Jun 2011, 21:52
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Here we go agin and by next week pilots will think they won but in reality Muller creams it again.

Just how many times do you think you can use Joe Soap travelling public as pawns? Just how many times can Ryanair say they have enjoyed increased bookings when in reality their business model leads us to believe they shouldn't have any surplus seats at this stage. What a game. Muller all I can say is maximise you contributions into your pension and enjoy it.
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Old 6th Jun 2011, 11:40
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Strike is off in DUB, SNN and ORK tomorrow but BFS and LGW talks on going.
Aer Lingus industrial action off after talks - RT News
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Old 11th Jun 2011, 13:21
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I saw mention that EI have been combining BFS and DUB flights to LPA even though they are scheduled for different days (BFS PAX bused to DUB). Does anyone know the background to this and whether the PAX affected LPA-BFS will be given appropriate compensation for the 24 hour delay in Gran Canaria?
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Old 16th Jun 2011, 21:13
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Aer Lingus A319

Believe they are due but will not enter service until next year at the earliest.
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Believe they are due but will not enter service until next year at the earliest.
The 3 ex Iberia 319s are due to enter service March 2012 and being received by AerLingus in January. The 1st one is painted in Aer Lingus colours (ex EC-KEV), the registrations of the 3 319s will be,
  • EI-EPU
  • EI-EPS
  • EI-EPT
According to Irish Air Letter, the 1st 319 will be arriving in Dublin end of June and will be stored until Aer Lingus received it. This plane apparently was noted in Madrid as EI-EPR recently.

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