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Jack: I know the NEO will become standard for new-build aircraft, and I know there is a winglet retrofit available for existing aircraft, but I wasn't aware of any full-scale NEO retrofit programme (i.e. including engine) for existing aircraft. Could you point me at a source for this, please? Thanks!
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What tonnage are the Iberia A319s as I have noticed they have sometimes flown the Madrid to Moscow service. If the 68T version would transatlantic to Boston be possible from my second (!) favourite airport in the midwest after Knock bearing in mind the St Johns to Heathrow Air Canada service with the high gross weight version of the their A319s.
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Retrofit - Programme, JetBlue have been the first to agree to retrofit all current A320's to Neo standard and its as standard from Deliveries from 2013.
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What tonnage are the Iberia A319s as I have noticed they have sometimes flown the Madrid to Moscow service. If the 68T version would transatlantic to Boston be possible from my second (!) favourite airport in the midwest after Knock bearing in mind the St Johns to Heathrow Air Canada service with the high gross weight version of the their A319s.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Heathrow-St Johns = 2012nm
Cork-Boston = 2542nm, oh sorry, did you mean Sh****n?
So sadly Ireland-BOS is significantly further than either of the others. Also, from a route economics point of view, even if the aircraft were capable of flying the sector, I'd be very very doubtful it could ever break even.
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jetblue neo's - JetBlue May Add Longer Routes With Airbus Neos, Winglets - Bloomberg
Aer Lingus should be announcing it soon.
Aer Lingus should be announcing it soon.
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It's very unlikely the mystery CSeries order is Aer Lingus, they usually announce when they are officially looking for new aircraft like they did with the 787/A350 evaluation and the 737NG/A320 before that. That's not to say Aer
Lingus won't look at the CSeries in the future, the addition of A319s shows that they are willing to go smaller than the A320 and could be seriously looking at smaller jets such as the E-Jet and CSeries.
The A320 fleet is still young but the NEO can't be ignored, it's the natural replacement for the bulk of the narrowbody fleet but the NEO is already sold out till about 2018 after nearly 1000 orders in 7 months! There is no NEO retrofit programme, just sharklets.
I don't think any major changes will happen for a few years or so, they'll probably add more A319s in the meantime.
Lingus won't look at the CSeries in the future, the addition of A319s shows that they are willing to go smaller than the A320 and could be seriously looking at smaller jets such as the E-Jet and CSeries.
The A320 fleet is still young but the NEO can't be ignored, it's the natural replacement for the bulk of the narrowbody fleet but the NEO is already sold out till about 2018 after nearly 1000 orders in 7 months! There is no NEO retrofit programme, just sharklets.
I don't think any major changes will happen for a few years or so, they'll probably add more A319s in the meantime.
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Hey Gang.
What sectors do you think EI will use the 319s on? Apart from loco carriers and some of the legacy carriers who have large 319 fleets, many airlines especially those were the 319 is a niche ac, use them on long but thin pax routes. This is primarily because of the 319s greater range...it is afterall a shortened 320 with the same fuel capacity.
I am wondering could this be the begining of much fabled mid-haul routes to Cape Verde/Lagos/Tel Aviv..? Rumours regarding those locations, especially to Nigeria crop up several times each year!!
Cyrano regarding the C-series orders, you are correct there was one for 3 ac. However, the "mysterious" order which is generating all the publicity is an order for 10 c110 and 6 options. Its notable that this is also the launch customer for this type. Bombardier noted that the order is from an established carrier. Ordinarily launch customers are reavealed in a blaze of publicity......Still don't think its EI though But in this case I'd quite like to be wrong
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What sectors do you think EI will use the 319s on? Apart from loco carriers and some of the legacy carriers who have large 319 fleets, many airlines especially those were the 319 is a niche ac, use them on long but thin pax routes. This is primarily because of the 319s greater range...it is afterall a shortened 320 with the same fuel capacity.
I am wondering could this be the begining of much fabled mid-haul routes to Cape Verde/Lagos/Tel Aviv..? Rumours regarding those locations, especially to Nigeria crop up several times each year!!
Cyrano regarding the C-series orders, you are correct there was one for 3 ac. However, the "mysterious" order which is generating all the publicity is an order for 10 c110 and 6 options. Its notable that this is also the launch customer for this type. Bombardier noted that the order is from an established carrier. Ordinarily launch customers are reavealed in a blaze of publicity......Still don't think its EI though
But in this case I'd quite like to be wrongC
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This is primarily because of the 319s greater range...it is afterall a shortened 320 with the same fuel capacity.
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Personally, I don't think we'll see any dramatic changes as a result of the 319; it will permit an increase in frequencies on some routes currently flown by A320s and it will allow the airline more flexibility, tasking certain routes with a combination of all three types (incl. the ATR72 - which I know isn't strictly an EI type, but ...), enabling to better match supply to demand.
I think we'll see an increase in the number of Summer routes being continued through the Winter next year 2012/13), as the 319 will allow some routes usually operated on a Summer only basis to be operated through the Winter; again, more flexibility.
I don't think those four A319s will be the last.
I think we'll see an increase in the number of Summer routes being continued through the Winter next year 2012/13), as the 319 will allow some routes usually operated on a Summer only basis to be operated through the Winter; again, more flexibility.
I don't think those four A319s will be the last.
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Brussels, Düsseldorf, Hamburg, Zuric..
The A319's will have a business class for business routes.
The A319's will have a business class for business routes.
The A319s will be configured for 144
passengers in the Aer Lingus layout
passengers in the Aer Lingus layout
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Thanks skipness, yes you are correct regarding the 319 range issue. That is what I had assumed many airlines found attractive in the 319 vis-a-vis the 320. So it is interesting that if it has less range that many posters are noting its better flexability. Is it that much cheaper to operate?
I am surprised that they will be changed from the Iberia configeration which incorporates a business class. I could be mistaken, but I am fairly sure the Cristophe Mueller had commented that he wanted to again begin offering Business Class on certain short haul routes. Part of his strategy of "differenciation" and trying to mark EI out as a slightly more expensive but higher quality airline.
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Thanks skipness, yes you are correct regarding the 319 range issue. That is what I had assumed many airlines found attractive in the 319 vis-a-vis the 320. So it is interesting that if it has less range that many posters are noting its better flexability. Is it that much cheaper to operate?
I am surprised that they will be changed from the Iberia configeration which incorporates a business class. I could be mistaken, but I am fairly sure the Cristophe Mueller had commented that he wanted to again begin offering Business Class on certain short haul routes. Part of his strategy of "differenciation" and trying to mark EI out as a slightly more expensive but higher quality airline.
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I am surprised that they will be changed from the Iberia configeration which incorporates a business class. I could be mistaken, but I am fairly sure the Cristophe Mueller had commented that he wanted to again begin offering Business Class on certain short haul routes. Part of his strategy of "differenciation" and trying to mark EI out as a slightly more expensive but higher quality airline.
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DUB to MCO very late and return flight cancelled
EI121 DUB to MCO departed 76 minutes late Tue 28th.
Return flight EI120 Cancelled.
Wonder why and any connection with the very late departure of the 121.
Return flight EI120 Cancelled.
Wonder why and any connection with the very late departure of the 121.
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I would hazard a guess that the US CBP process may have caused at least some of that delay. Friends went to MCO 2 weeks ago, huge queues (1 hour+) in the pre-clearance area. They were delayed an hour, staff said it was due to CBP. Maybe more staff needed.
I doubt we will see Biz class returned to EI shorthaul anytime soon. Priority check-in, flexi-tickets fast track secuity and seat selection appeal to biz travellers without the dedicated cabin
I doubt we will see Biz class returned to EI shorthaul anytime soon. Priority check-in, flexi-tickets fast track secuity and seat selection appeal to biz travellers without the dedicated cabin