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I tried to purchase some on board snacks with Flybe on a flight from DUB other day. I gave them Northern Ireland notes, the cabin crew said they only took sterling or euro (the onboard euro rate was daylight robbery). When I told them it was sterling they still refused. I thought they must not have been trained properly on UK money! I alerted customer services in Exeter and they wrote back to me saying that they only took Sterling or euro... I know some people in England are ignorant when it comes to non English notes but I thought airline staff would have a bit of knowledge, obviously not. I have spent Northern Irish notes on flights from Belfast before but thought it ridiculous to say the least that 'Northern Ireland's low fares airline' does not accept Northern Ireland notes...
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If you read my posts then I am generally BE's Public Enermy #1 so dont normally defend them, but If you investigate it then the only real legal tender for the UK is sterling. Scottish and N. Irish money is issued by 'local' banks and is accepted on an understanding that it is legal tender by the shop keepers. They have no legal obligation to accept it. Infact a business can decline ANY banknote if they wish. A shop/business has a right to say no just because they don't fancy it due to it having a smudge or small tear or whatever! Some businesses would accept it in England but it leaves them wide open to forgery as they do not handle this money daily like your native folk and would struggle to tell if its real. Hope that helps clear it up.
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"Some businesses would accept it in England but it leaves them wide open to forgery as they do not handle this money daily like your native folk and would struggle to tell if its real. Hope that helps clear it up"
So basically chaps, lets all refuse English notes, as it leaves us Northern Irish and Scots folk wide open to forgery....
So basically chaps, lets all refuse English notes, as it leaves us Northern Irish and Scots folk wide open to forgery....
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NI notes ARE Sterling and legal tender! Exactly the same as Scottish notes!
The only pounds from the British Isles you cant use in the UK are Channel Isles and Manx pounds the major difference being they are not pounds sterling! But many people are ignorant of this as it is not something they see every day and are however well within there rights to refuse any tender! No matter how frustrated this may make you.
The only pounds from the British Isles you cant use in the UK are Channel Isles and Manx pounds the major difference being they are not pounds sterling! But many people are ignorant of this as it is not something they see every day and are however well within there rights to refuse any tender! No matter how frustrated this may make you.
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Devonair - (sadly) not everyone will be aware of the currency thing and I have to admit that when I traveled over to Belfast on EZY they were the same. (A while ago!) In fact, it was quite amusing because the lady next to me said she was going to put it in the paper - I mean seriously how sad is that! It was only human error at the end of the day. She wasn't happy and said she would complain to the airline but how that is going to make a difference after the flight I will never know. Its a shame the error was made on a Flybe service bearing in mind they have been operating out of BHD for years...but is it really worth losing your temper with Customer Services over?? See what happens on your next flight and let us know....like I said probably a one off incident.
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ACDC I didn't lose my temper, I actually thought it was highly amusing. The letter I got back from customer services was even funnier because they confirmed to me in writing that Flybe didn't take 'Northern Irish money' only sterling! How bizarre is that statement! As a Devonian I was embarrassed, my fellow Devonians need to travel a bit more!
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The reply from from Flybe is unfortunate however, I agree that whilst this is legal Sterling tender, it is actually the decision for the recipient to decide whether they wish to accept this or not. Many airlines will accept Euro's but specify that they will not take anything lower than a 50cent coin.
Flybe were fully within their rights to refuse the note although, I agree that it would appear that their reasoning behind doing so needed better explanation.
Flybe were fully within their rights to refuse the note although, I agree that it would appear that their reasoning behind doing so needed better explanation.
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As I say, seems odd for an airline with such history in Ireland.... I know the Customer Service team very well personally and through work - they are cracking people and do take an awful lot of flack and abuse for such silly things so am glad that you kept your cool (obviously the subject means a lot to you) The lady I witnessed was completely over the top at something so petty I simply could not believe it. Made me laugh the poor orange girl didn't know what to say. On a another note, I understand that Flybe will be putting the E195 on the LGW - GCI rotations which means that the aircraft has been given the ok to land on the small island. I hope Flybe don't waste the E195's on domestic services, as they could be used to open up more International services.
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Originally Posted by SCR1
birdscarer you are wrong under the act of union Scottish money is legal tender in england but english money is only acceptable tender in scotland
Bank of England notes are the only banknotes that are legal tender in England and Wales. Scottish, Northern Ireland, Jersey, Guernsey and Manx banknotes are not legal tender in England and Wales. However, they are not illegal under English law and creditors and traders may accept them if they so choose.
Wikipedia is not right on everything infact there have been several times that it has been found to be claringly wrong and pepole posting on it have been found to have used false academic credentials or have had a political motive for posting something and it has been missed my the morderators. try looking up the text of act of union. the amount of money that they are allowed to issue is also controlled by the bank of england and the goverment but i dont think that this is the correct place to hold a dissusion on the bank notes of the uk.
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birdscarer,
with all due respect, you are talking out of your A$$.
Sterling is Sterling, no matter which bank it comes from. Name me another country in the world that has a currency called Sterling except for the UK.
JobsaGoodun,
I work for Flybe and I totally dissagree that Flybe was fully within their right to refuse the note. I think that is very ignorant!!
with all due respect, you are talking out of your A$$.
Sterling is Sterling, no matter which bank it comes from. Name me another country in the world that has a currency called Sterling except for the UK.
JobsaGoodun,
I work for Flybe and I totally dissagree that Flybe was fully within their right to refuse the note. I think that is very ignorant!!
Hushkit,
I have in my possesion some notes and coins from the Falklands. They are Sterling (coins look exactly the same, notes a bit different), but as far a I know cannot be spent in the UK.
I have in my possesion some notes and coins from the Falklands. They are Sterling (coins look exactly the same, notes a bit different), but as far a I know cannot be spent in the UK.
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"Legal Tender" is just a legal term. People get very hung up on whether or not a certain object is "legal tender" or not and the common perception of the definition is VERY different to what the legal definition is.
Very few objects are legally defined as "legal tender" and the wikipedia extract (although potentially spurious given the source I know) is pretty much legally correct.
However as others have said the notion of "legal tender" is a bit of a nonsense and anyone can accept any item as payment as they see fit.
In this case the Northern Irish notes should really have been accepted. If an airline doesn't want to take payment for an additional set of goods or services more fool them!
Very few objects are legally defined as "legal tender" and the wikipedia extract (although potentially spurious given the source I know) is pretty much legally correct.
However as others have said the notion of "legal tender" is a bit of a nonsense and anyone can accept any item as payment as they see fit.
In this case the Northern Irish notes should really have been accepted. If an airline doesn't want to take payment for an additional set of goods or services more fool them!
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birdscarer,
with all due respect, you are talking out of your A$$.
Sterling is Sterling, no matter which bank it comes from. Name me another country in the world that has a currency called Sterling except for the UK.
with all due respect, you are talking out of your A$$.
Sterling is Sterling, no matter which bank it comes from. Name me another country in the world that has a currency called Sterling except for the UK.
Are Scottish & Northern Irish notes legal tender?
In short ‘No’ these notes are not legal tender; only Bank of England notes are legal tender but only in England and Wales.
The term legal tender does not in itself govern the acceptability of banknotes in transactions. Whether or not notes have legal tender status, their acceptability as a means of payment is essentially a matter for agreement between the parties involved. Legal tender has a very narrow technical meaning in relation to the settlement of debt. If a debtor pays in legal tender the exact amount he owes under the terms of a contract, he has good defence in law if he is subsequently sued for non-payment of the debt. In ordinary everyday transactions, the term ‘legal tender’ has very little practical application.
In short ‘No’ these notes are not legal tender; only Bank of England notes are legal tender but only in England and Wales.
The term legal tender does not in itself govern the acceptability of banknotes in transactions. Whether or not notes have legal tender status, their acceptability as a means of payment is essentially a matter for agreement between the parties involved. Legal tender has a very narrow technical meaning in relation to the settlement of debt. If a debtor pays in legal tender the exact amount he owes under the terms of a contract, he has good defence in law if he is subsequently sued for non-payment of the debt. In ordinary everyday transactions, the term ‘legal tender’ has very little practical application.
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Flew EXT-DUB today on the Embraer... lovely aircraft, very spacious and quiet engines. I assume it was just a one off as there were only about 40 people on board!