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Birdscarer - 3 airlines from the UK have had reports of problems onboard since Aug 07 (I believe). I will not name all three but we all know that Flybe is one of them with the Bae 146s. BA CityFlyer (not low cost) have the same problem
SOME crew will moan about anything to get away from working. We have even seen crew not report for duty because their Hamster died or they got sun burnt from the sun bed!! It would seem to me that some crew just want to gain negative publicity (for the airline)
All Bae 146s have a good track record really even with the few isolated incidents.
Anyway I have a quick query which I hope someone will be able to answer.......does anyone know how long the E195 delivery delays are?? I know that some of the aircraft have had a few months delay but I want to find out for certain. Thank you
SOME crew will moan about anything to get away from working. We have even seen crew not report for duty because their Hamster died or they got sun burnt from the sun bed!! It would seem to me that some crew just want to gain negative publicity (for the airline)
All Bae 146s have a good track record really even with the few isolated incidents.
Anyway I have a quick query which I hope someone will be able to answer.......does anyone know how long the E195 delivery delays are?? I know that some of the aircraft have had a few months delay but I want to find out for certain. Thank you
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Originally Posted by BBC
BBC - During a trip from Birmingham to Belfast in July, two stewardesses collapsed after being overcome by fumes and all seven crew members had to be taken to hospital on landing
Originally Posted by ADC2604
SOME crew will moan about anything to get away from working.
Seriously though this is a concern. The BBC don't mention other airlines and it may be just unfortunate that they have singled FlyBe out, but thats the same as saying "Sorry I ran over you cat but I passed two more on the road on the way here!" It needs to be sorted out (and I dont mean wait until January when they are being sold!)
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The 2 crew mentioned in that article could never in a million years be described as slackers. Please don't lump them in with some of the moaning old gits that BHX had forced upon them after the BACon merger.
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Fumes
Maude Charlee or anyone else in flybe
From a post in "Rumour and News" (I heard it from another forum),
do you know if it was "fumes" on the BHX - MXP that made the
aircraft to return shortly after take off on Thursday?
It was a 145 this time but local fire crews were called and at least
one hospital was put on stand-by (standard procedure?) per the post
in "Rumour & News".
Pete
From a post in "Rumour and News" (I heard it from another forum),
do you know if it was "fumes" on the BHX - MXP that made the
aircraft to return shortly after take off on Thursday?
It was a 145 this time but local fire crews were called and at least
one hospital was put on stand-by (standard procedure?) per the post
in "Rumour & News".
Pete
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Birdscarer - I think, for once, I am in agreement with your post and don't feel the need to argue 
you make a valid point and I am sure this will be at the top of Flybe's agenda now that the media are involved.
I believe one of the other airlines (whilst not naming) use B737s (not new ones) but you are quite right, Flybe have been singled out and I am sure something will be said next week.
Oltonpete - I am not aware that the E145 have had any fume problems although I may be wrong. I will try and find out.....
you make a valid point and I am sure this will be at the top of Flybe's agenda now that the media are involved.I believe one of the other airlines (whilst not naming) use B737s (not new ones) but you are quite right, Flybe have been singled out and I am sure something will be said next week.
Oltonpete - I am not aware that the E145 have had any fume problems although I may be wrong. I will try and find out.....
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More than oil leaks?
Now there was I thinking cabin fumes were a 146 design feature!
More to the point various threads would indicate Flybe have someone very keen to discredit their employer. Gripes about fumes (valid, but unique to Flybe?). Gripes about treatment of staff, timekeeping, reliability etc.
My only contact with Flybe/Bacon & BA is as SLF. As such BA are more reliable (just) and Flybe more pleasant (lots).
Perhaps if they (Flybe) didn’t keep their kit on fogbound islands things might improve.
More to the point various threads would indicate Flybe have someone very keen to discredit their employer. Gripes about fumes (valid, but unique to Flybe?). Gripes about treatment of staff, timekeeping, reliability etc.
My only contact with Flybe/Bacon & BA is as SLF. As such BA are more reliable (just) and Flybe more pleasant (lots).
Perhaps if they (Flybe) didn’t keep their kit on fogbound islands things might improve.
ADC2604
Speaking from personal experience (and that wasn't pleasant), the 145's have had quite a few fume problems in the past - one a/c ended up having an engine change to stop the re-occurring problem.
According to BALPA the 146, 757 & 145 are the a/c that cause the most problems although it has been known on other types.
Speaking from personal experience (and that wasn't pleasant), the 145's have had quite a few fume problems in the past - one a/c ended up having an engine change to stop the re-occurring problem.
According to BALPA the 146, 757 & 145 are the a/c that cause the most problems although it has been known on other types.
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OldBristolFreighter - love your post 
although what does SLF stand for?
FlyboyUK - I see - I have never flown on a E145 so thanks for confirming.....in a nutshell then - roll on the day where all 146s and E145 have been disposed of ??
although what does SLF stand for?FlyboyUK - I see - I have never flown on a E145 so thanks for confirming.....in a nutshell then - roll on the day where all 146s and E145 have been disposed of ??
Old Bristol Freighter,
Not sure which fog bound islands you mean, but one of the reasons for basing aircraft there is so you can operate early morning departures that business pax want. If you can't get in then you can't get out again, but as take-off minima are normally lower than landing minima then with a based aircraft you can depart, and hopefully the visibility will improve to allow you to get back a few hours later.
Not sure which fog bound islands you mean, but one of the reasons for basing aircraft there is so you can operate early morning departures that business pax want. If you can't get in then you can't get out again, but as take-off minima are normally lower than landing minima then with a based aircraft you can depart, and hopefully the visibility will improve to allow you to get back a few hours later.
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At Cardiff last week a BA cityflyer 146 made an emergency problem with smell of fumes coming from the cabin.
It was only a week before that a Flybe 146 (Manssion logo) was grounded at CWL due to smell of fumes in the cabin (no emergency this time).
It was only a week before that a Flybe 146 (Manssion logo) was grounded at CWL due to smell of fumes in the cabin (no emergency this time).
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Mxp - 195/q400
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Nothing physically stopping the Q400 but from memory if you check the
pprune archives re the posts on the old Bergamo route I would find it surprising by some of the comments (if true) made at the time.
I believe it was to do with possibly emergency descent over the alps and
the oxygen supply on board.
Sorry I have no idea of the specifics but someone on here will explain.
Other than that would businessmen want there bones rattled for two
hours on a Q400? I know they do on the SAS Q400's but most of the
BHX services are changing to MD's in 2008 and they don't fly over many mountains.
Personally two hours on a Q400 for me would be fine, as I really enjoyed
my flight but that is just my opinion.
Pete
Nothing physically stopping the Q400 but from memory if you check the
pprune archives re the posts on the old Bergamo route I would find it surprising by some of the comments (if true) made at the time.
I believe it was to do with possibly emergency descent over the alps and
the oxygen supply on board.
Sorry I have no idea of the specifics but someone on here will explain.
Other than that would businessmen want there bones rattled for two
hours on a Q400? I know they do on the SAS Q400's but most of the
BHX services are changing to MD's in 2008 and they don't fly over many mountains.
Personally two hours on a Q400 for me would be fine, as I really enjoyed
my flight but that is just my opinion.
Pete
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Flybe skippers
Could anybody tell me the average age of the skippers?
The only reason I ask is because, everytime I look out the window on my wonderful scarebus I see two year olds completing walk rounds dressed up as skippers!!!
Also I must compliment BE on their ontime performance, no hold on it was BD regional oops
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The only reason I ask is because, everytime I look out the window on my wonderful scarebus I see two year olds completing walk rounds dressed up as skippers!!!
Also I must compliment BE on their ontime performance, no hold on it was BD regional oops
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to maude charlee
And there was me thinking you'd 'rescued' us!!
When are you going to let it drop
When are you going to let it drop
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First of all Ms Dolly Parton,
it is Capt. Muade Charlee to you son. Secondly drop what? It is well known that they have very young capt's, inexperienced who shouldn't be in command at all.
If they hadn't have messed up with the BACON merger we wouldn't have to be at this point. It amazes me they haven't lost their AOC yet!!!
You must be one of them two year old cadet's with the coveted four gold stripes?
it is Capt. Muade Charlee to you son. Secondly drop what? It is well known that they have very young capt's, inexperienced who shouldn't be in command at all.
If they hadn't have messed up with the BACON merger we wouldn't have to be at this point. It amazes me they haven't lost their AOC yet!!!
You must be one of them two year old cadet's with the coveted four gold stripes?
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airbus-commander - when are you and the others going to stop this childish bickering.......Flybe are a good airline despite what you think.
Yes the crew are younger but I fail to see what age has to do with it. They have to complete the same training as anyone else.
And with regards to performance, things are getting back on track. There have been a number of days recently where almost all 500 flights have operated early and no cancellations at all. I don't think any airline can be any better really.......I don't know one airline that operates every single flight to the second.
So please give it a rest.....we are mature adults on here who prefer to have serious discussion and not silly little digs.
does anyone know how long the E195 delivery delays are??
Yes the crew are younger but I fail to see what age has to do with it. They have to complete the same training as anyone else.
And with regards to performance, things are getting back on track. There have been a number of days recently where almost all 500 flights have operated early and no cancellations at all. I don't think any airline can be any better really.......I don't know one airline that operates every single flight to the second.
So please give it a rest.....we are mature adults on here who prefer to have serious discussion and not silly little digs.
does anyone know how long the E195 delivery delays are??
