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Cardiff Airport do advertise to a degree via the email shots they send out every month.
I realise that these aren't unsolicitated though as you have to sign up ob the webste to receive it.
I realise that these aren't unsolicitated though as you have to sign up ob the webste to receive it.
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New WW route to DUB?
Hey guys!
Was just looking at the WW timetable on their website and saw DUB listed from CWL. It doesn't allow you to book any flights nor does it give any details. As good a job as RE are doing on the Ireland routes we could really use a jet on the DUB..... lets see what happens!
(to the website and select timetable, drop down to CWL and select Apr 2010 and then destination)
BCL.
Was just looking at the WW timetable on their website and saw DUB listed from CWL. It doesn't allow you to book any flights nor does it give any details. As good a job as RE are doing on the Ireland routes we could really use a jet on the DUB..... lets see what happens!
(to the website and select timetable, drop down to CWL and select Apr 2010 and then destination)
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BMI Baby announce S10 routes.
Baby just announced phase 1 of its S10 routes from CWL....nothing new or to get excited over but does state:
Does this mean we will see extra/new routes or even a fourth aicraft?!
I won't hold my breath.
Even more frequencies on the Mediterranean routes and flights to our other European cities and UK destinations will be going on sale in the near future."
I won't hold my breath.
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Could the IOM rumour have appeared from the fact the Manx2 aircraft was at CWL for a couple of days the other week operating the VLY for Highland Airways.
How about CWL-VLY-IOM if highland doesn't continue the route after the 3 year deal?
How about CWL-VLY-IOM if highland doesn't continue the route after the 3 year deal?
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From the routes that have been released:
-Alicante- 1 Daily same as this year
-Faro- 3 per week compared to 4 a week this year
-Malaga- Daily compared to 9 a week this year
-Mahon- 2 a week same as this year
-Murcia- 3 a week same as this year
-Palma- 4 weekly compared to daily this year
Its not looking great, I have a feeling it will be a loss of 1 aircraft, we will have to see what happens....
-Alicante- 1 Daily same as this year
-Faro- 3 per week compared to 4 a week this year
-Malaga- Daily compared to 9 a week this year
-Mahon- 2 a week same as this year
-Murcia- 3 a week same as this year
-Palma- 4 weekly compared to daily this year
Its not looking great, I have a feeling it will be a loss of 1 aircraft, we will have to see what happens....
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Cardiff Airport set for increase in passenger numbers this summer
STAYCATION may be the buzzword for the travel industry this year, but not even the recession will stop an exodus from Wales this summer.
The term was coined to describe the cheap and cheerful trend for holidaymakers to enjoy the attractions of their locale rather than jetting off to more exotic destinations.
But after the Western Mail revealed yesterday that advance bookings for Welsh tourism operators were no better than for last year’s disastrous summer, the native holiday industry has suffered another blow with figures today showing a boost in the numbers of passengers expected to travel through Wales’ biggest airport.
The poor strength of the pound against the euro has failed to dampen holidaymakers’ enthusiasm for Europe’s sunniest destinations, with 11% more Welsh tourists set to head to the Canary Islands next month.
Destinations like Malaga, Southern Spain, a perennial favourite with sun-seekers, are also set to see visitor numbers rise.
Figures from airline BMIbaby reveal that 8% more tourists will head for the region next month, while other resorts like Menorca, also in Spain, have witnessed a significant increase in their advanced, year-on-year booking numbers.
The booking figures come just a day after tourism executives in Wales warned of dismal summer trading, with figures from Visit Wales revealing that more than half – 66% – of the country’s hoteliers, B&B and hostel owners reported their advanced bookings for 2009 being the same or down on 2008 levels.
But Crawford Rix, managing director of the low-cost flight group, said the figures were proof that Welsh tourists were still keen to enjoy exotic breaks abroad.
“We are seeing a strong demand from passengers for sunshine destinations, with Alicante, Palma and Malaga topping our lists from Cardiff,” Mr Rix said.
“Passenger load factors from Cardiff to Malaga are up 8%, and to Palma by 11% for travel in July, compared to the same month in 2008. This proves that people still want their summer sunshine holiday.”
With Wales set to bask in a rare Mediterranean-style heatwave this summer, the Association of British Travel Agents predicted that the number of Brits travelling abroad could fall by as much as 10%.
But the association’s Casia Zajac said last night that the situation could change, as historically UK tourists have been reluctant to ditch their overseas vacations.
Miss Zajac said: “It is very difficult to give this type of advanced prediction, as advanced bookings can change and often do so at a late stage.
“These figures for Wales are positive, however, and it seems that Spain and the Balearics are still popular despite the poor exchange rates.”
Each year, more than 10 million UK tourists flock to Spain, but travel experts think the region could see a slide in visitor numbers by as much as 20%.
Simon Calder, travel editor at The Independent, said: “People are expected to bypass countries like Greece, Spain and France, with most who chose to go abroad heading to Turkey.
“Spain will still be the number one destination, but would expect their numbers to fall by about two million.
“By comparison, I don’t think any UK destination has emerged as the most popular, I think people are just heading to rural and coastal towns and rejoicing in what Britain has to offer.”
For the first time in over a decade, Turkey – a holiday spot outside the costly eurozone – is expected to see its British visitor numbers hit the two million mark.
Travel writer David Atkinson said: “Turkey has seen a lot of modernisation, with hotels springing up in Istanbul and its other regions, and it has attracted a lot of attention because next year it will be the European city of culture, even though it isn’t in Europe.
“I think people feel that they can go there relatively cheaply, and with just a short flight, and get a completely different cultural experience,”
Holiday destinations like Croatia and Egypt are also expected to emerge as favourites in 2009, but industry critics belive that staycations – holidays within Britain – will prove popular.
“Staycation is still the buzz word within the industry, and this is where the main focus lies,” Mr Atkinson said.
A spokeswoman for Cardiff Airport said its figures were strong for destinations like the Balearics, Malta and Spain.
“Although it is early in the summer season we have seen strong load factors for holiday routes,” she said.
“Favourite destinations like the Canaries, Balearics, Greece, Cyprus and Malta are proving popular during the first week in June. We expect this to continue throughout June to September especially during the school summer holidays when the airport is at its busiest.”
Other popular destinations from the airport include Paris and Barcelona.
STAYCATION may be the buzzword for the travel industry this year, but not even the recession will stop an exodus from Wales this summer.
The term was coined to describe the cheap and cheerful trend for holidaymakers to enjoy the attractions of their locale rather than jetting off to more exotic destinations.
But after the Western Mail revealed yesterday that advance bookings for Welsh tourism operators were no better than for last year’s disastrous summer, the native holiday industry has suffered another blow with figures today showing a boost in the numbers of passengers expected to travel through Wales’ biggest airport.
The poor strength of the pound against the euro has failed to dampen holidaymakers’ enthusiasm for Europe’s sunniest destinations, with 11% more Welsh tourists set to head to the Canary Islands next month.
Destinations like Malaga, Southern Spain, a perennial favourite with sun-seekers, are also set to see visitor numbers rise.
Figures from airline BMIbaby reveal that 8% more tourists will head for the region next month, while other resorts like Menorca, also in Spain, have witnessed a significant increase in their advanced, year-on-year booking numbers.
The booking figures come just a day after tourism executives in Wales warned of dismal summer trading, with figures from Visit Wales revealing that more than half – 66% – of the country’s hoteliers, B&B and hostel owners reported their advanced bookings for 2009 being the same or down on 2008 levels.
But Crawford Rix, managing director of the low-cost flight group, said the figures were proof that Welsh tourists were still keen to enjoy exotic breaks abroad.
“We are seeing a strong demand from passengers for sunshine destinations, with Alicante, Palma and Malaga topping our lists from Cardiff,” Mr Rix said.
“Passenger load factors from Cardiff to Malaga are up 8%, and to Palma by 11% for travel in July, compared to the same month in 2008. This proves that people still want their summer sunshine holiday.”
With Wales set to bask in a rare Mediterranean-style heatwave this summer, the Association of British Travel Agents predicted that the number of Brits travelling abroad could fall by as much as 10%.
But the association’s Casia Zajac said last night that the situation could change, as historically UK tourists have been reluctant to ditch their overseas vacations.
Miss Zajac said: “It is very difficult to give this type of advanced prediction, as advanced bookings can change and often do so at a late stage.
“These figures for Wales are positive, however, and it seems that Spain and the Balearics are still popular despite the poor exchange rates.”
Each year, more than 10 million UK tourists flock to Spain, but travel experts think the region could see a slide in visitor numbers by as much as 20%.
Simon Calder, travel editor at The Independent, said: “People are expected to bypass countries like Greece, Spain and France, with most who chose to go abroad heading to Turkey.
“Spain will still be the number one destination, but would expect their numbers to fall by about two million.
“By comparison, I don’t think any UK destination has emerged as the most popular, I think people are just heading to rural and coastal towns and rejoicing in what Britain has to offer.”
For the first time in over a decade, Turkey – a holiday spot outside the costly eurozone – is expected to see its British visitor numbers hit the two million mark.
Travel writer David Atkinson said: “Turkey has seen a lot of modernisation, with hotels springing up in Istanbul and its other regions, and it has attracted a lot of attention because next year it will be the European city of culture, even though it isn’t in Europe.
“I think people feel that they can go there relatively cheaply, and with just a short flight, and get a completely different cultural experience,”
Holiday destinations like Croatia and Egypt are also expected to emerge as favourites in 2009, but industry critics belive that staycations – holidays within Britain – will prove popular.
“Staycation is still the buzz word within the industry, and this is where the main focus lies,” Mr Atkinson said.
A spokeswoman for Cardiff Airport said its figures were strong for destinations like the Balearics, Malta and Spain.
“Although it is early in the summer season we have seen strong load factors for holiday routes,” she said.
“Favourite destinations like the Canaries, Balearics, Greece, Cyprus and Malta are proving popular during the first week in June. We expect this to continue throughout June to September especially during the school summer holidays when the airport is at its busiest.”
Other popular destinations from the airport include Paris and Barcelona.
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Its not looking great, I have a feeling it will be a loss of 1 aircraft, we will have to see what happens....
They will see how advanced bookings are looking before adding frequencies or adding a new destination which seems like good business sence to me.
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The note from the big cheeses really plays up this early route release as a bit of trick software that only baby has allowing them to put on sale flights as far into the future as they want and that NO other airline has this facility.
ummm. Ok. Truth is waters are being tested pending decisions to be made come Sept-Oct. Plenty of rumours flying around of further reductions in Baby fleet if forward bookings are seen to be slow and CWL only escaped by "skin of teeth" last year. Although it has been suggested that if they had done this last year and seen the strength of bookings for 2009 they wouldn't have chopped the three a/c and crews from BHX. So believe what is most convenient to you. The truth is out there !
Insiders say Lufty SMB deal now done with SMB taking big hit on cash and Lufty taking small excess over their valuation. Still when you're an old dude retiring does taking £240m instead of £300m make a huge difference to your lifestyle in retirement ! This should end a little of the uncertainty in the bmi group even if the news is not great when it comes !
Still I know a man who knows a guy who spoke to a girl who's engaged to this bloke who was on a Ryanair course at EMA, or was it DUB, who said FR CWL base in 2011 ! (or eleven minutes past eight whichever is sooner). I've always wanted to go to sweckynsiborg at 02.00 on a thursday morning for £0.02 (including £475.23 check in, handling, boiler maintenance, dog biscuits charge). But if this gets out you don't know me right ! Oh damn I put it on the interweb again !
ummm. Ok. Truth is waters are being tested pending decisions to be made come Sept-Oct. Plenty of rumours flying around of further reductions in Baby fleet if forward bookings are seen to be slow and CWL only escaped by "skin of teeth" last year. Although it has been suggested that if they had done this last year and seen the strength of bookings for 2009 they wouldn't have chopped the three a/c and crews from BHX. So believe what is most convenient to you. The truth is out there !
Insiders say Lufty SMB deal now done with SMB taking big hit on cash and Lufty taking small excess over their valuation. Still when you're an old dude retiring does taking £240m instead of £300m make a huge difference to your lifestyle in retirement ! This should end a little of the uncertainty in the bmi group even if the news is not great when it comes !
Still I know a man who knows a guy who spoke to a girl who's engaged to this bloke who was on a Ryanair course at EMA, or was it DUB, who said FR CWL base in 2011 ! (or eleven minutes past eight whichever is sooner). I've always wanted to go to sweckynsiborg at 02.00 on a thursday morning for £0.02 (including £475.23 check in, handling, boiler maintenance, dog biscuits charge). But if this gets out you don't know me right ! Oh damn I put it on the interweb again !
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FR rumor
The route planning manager for FR has publicly stated that FR will only use an airport if it has CAT 2 ILS. Cardiff is still CAT 1 and no prospect of that improving. You can all dream but its not going to happen.
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CAT 1 ILS reply.
With a lot of work planned for the airport in Oct '09 this year, as the boards outside of departures mention, perhaps some airside improvements will be made too?
Radars, software, flight planning upgrades, ILS, are all evolving, and I'm sure CWL are keeping up with the changes and looking to the future.
Ryanair use to land at CWL and even airports with top notch ILS still have diverts, it wasn't that long ago, we had 4/5 diverts into us from LHW (BA) because of weather difficulties at their end.
We maybe quieter at present but pax. still like using CWL and I, personally, look forward to all the forthcoming changes that are soon to happen here.
Radars, software, flight planning upgrades, ILS, are all evolving, and I'm sure CWL are keeping up with the changes and looking to the future.
Ryanair use to land at CWL and even airports with top notch ILS still have diverts, it wasn't that long ago, we had 4/5 diverts into us from LHW (BA) because of weather difficulties at their end.
We maybe quieter at present but pax. still like using CWL and I, personally, look forward to all the forthcoming changes that are soon to happen here.
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Ye top notch equipment with no pax is all that will happen, Cardiff has zero direction and thats why its like a ghost town! Even GA has left.
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I saw a memo once that said "beware the use of humour there will always be someone who doesn't get it !"
Spoke to someone near the top of FR the other day who categorically denied there was any chance of a CWL base, working on that principal I was expecting to see Harps on all stands by the next morning. In FR never believe anything until it is denied by someone high up. Actually the one interesting thing that was said was that "Ryanair policy is Ryanair policy, until it isn't, and it can change up to three times a day and it's certainly nothing we would admit publically !"
Looking forward to seeing the new conservatory and tea rooms out the front.
Spoke to someone near the top of FR the other day who categorically denied there was any chance of a CWL base, working on that principal I was expecting to see Harps on all stands by the next morning. In FR never believe anything until it is denied by someone high up. Actually the one interesting thing that was said was that "Ryanair policy is Ryanair policy, until it isn't, and it can change up to three times a day and it's certainly nothing we would admit publically !"
Looking forward to seeing the new conservatory and tea rooms out the front.
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Yes, Pipertommy, it must be a depressing time for my former colleagues at CWL. I guess I was fortunate to enjoy a period of growth in just about every KPI during my brief sojourn. But we didn’t see the credit crunch or even Zoom coming, at the time. Think yourselves lucky – at least CWL hasn’t gone the way of Coventry. But I agree, things don’t look too good right now.
Fixing it won’t just be a matter of waiting for the upturn and presenting hopeful statistics to route planners. There needs to be greater economic activity in south, west and east Wales; support for economic activity in the ten-mile area around CWL itself (including something, anything, that needs incoming or outgoing air cargo capacity); improved rail services from the airport station direct to Swansea/the West and to the Valleys – together with rapid transit from station to terminal); an alignment with Visit Wales that encourages them to point incoming visitors to CWL. Oh, and fewer roundabouts. And a Severn Barrage with a road on it. And a new pricing policy. And a convention centre. And some fresh intellect from Spain. And, and …
No matter how wishful PPruners are about routes and based aircraft, the reality is that CWL serves a catchment area with a much smaller population than Bristol and a far more limited economy. The answer is investment across a broad front to overcome these severe handicaps. Does anyone care that much about it? Probably not.
I imagine Patrick is doing a swan impression at the moment – appearing to glide along while his legs are kicking like crazy under water. Because most of what is needed is completely out of his control, while he is entirely judged by the airport’s performance. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him pull some kind of rabbit out of the hat before long, though – he’s been at CWL for well over a year now.
Fixing it won’t just be a matter of waiting for the upturn and presenting hopeful statistics to route planners. There needs to be greater economic activity in south, west and east Wales; support for economic activity in the ten-mile area around CWL itself (including something, anything, that needs incoming or outgoing air cargo capacity); improved rail services from the airport station direct to Swansea/the West and to the Valleys – together with rapid transit from station to terminal); an alignment with Visit Wales that encourages them to point incoming visitors to CWL. Oh, and fewer roundabouts. And a Severn Barrage with a road on it. And a new pricing policy. And a convention centre. And some fresh intellect from Spain. And, and …
No matter how wishful PPruners are about routes and based aircraft, the reality is that CWL serves a catchment area with a much smaller population than Bristol and a far more limited economy. The answer is investment across a broad front to overcome these severe handicaps. Does anyone care that much about it? Probably not.
I imagine Patrick is doing a swan impression at the moment – appearing to glide along while his legs are kicking like crazy under water. Because most of what is needed is completely out of his control, while he is entirely judged by the airport’s performance. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him pull some kind of rabbit out of the hat before long, though – he’s been at CWL for well over a year now.