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Old 15th May 2008, 19:17
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TCX have quite a good set up with regards to standby aircraft for tech aircraft. A321 sent in ex LGW this morning - three TCX aircraft on the ground at the same time G-OMYJ (321), G-DHJH (321) and G-OMYT (330) operating the last SFB before Monarch take it over with their A330's.

CWL could have the potential of a big player in the TCX world - new flights for Winter 08/09 announced at long last we have someone else in the winter other than Thomsonfly !!!!! However TOM are great the way they have stuck it out at CWL so big pat on their back so far, lets hope they carry on the way they are.
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Old 16th May 2008, 05:52
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2 questions...

1. Why is CWL receiving so many drunken pax from GLA and BFS of late ? CWL is refusing the same as seen last night (22 removed from EDI ). Police involved for numerous man-hours.

2. Why are so many ICTS newbies on visitor passes ? Are the CRB's in place ?
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Old 16th May 2008, 10:17
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Delayed flights doesn't help the matter which gives them more time at the bar.

When you say that 22 removed from EDI was that at Cardiff or at EDI?

BmiBaby policy is that regarding drunken passengers if one is removed, then all passengers with same booking reference is removed.
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Old 16th May 2008, 10:22
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Fair play to the airport for being organised on this occasion.

Heineken Cup travel info

16 May 2008


Getting to/from the airport during the Heineken Cup Final weekend.
New measures will be introduced at Cardiff Airport for passengers travelling to the Heineken Cup final held at the Millennium Stadium on 24 May 2008.

Approximately 10,000 additional passengers are expected to travel through the airport from Friday to Sunday, with a total of 100 extra flights operating throughout the weekend.

Charter passengers arriving at the airport for the Heineken Cup final on Saturday morning will be directed to the Long Stay 2 Car Park, where coaches will be waiting to transfer the travelling fans from the airport to the city centre.

To find your coach in the Long Stay 2 Car Park please look for your flight number in the front windows of the coaches.

The coaches will transfer the travelling fans to Taff Embankment, the nearest available drop-off point to the Millennium Stadium.

On the return journey, charter passengers will be picked up at Taff Embankment, getting them to the airport 75 minutes prior to their flight departure, allowing ample time to travel through the airport as most travellers will have hand luggage only and will already be in possession of a boarding card.

Coaches when they leave Cardiff will stop at the Barry Comprehensive School for Boys on Port Road. Using the school as a coach holding area will avoid potential congestion at the airport if too many coaches disembark passengers at the same time. Refreshments and toilet facilities will be provided at the school

All bus drivers will be provided with maps and detailed information by Cardiff County Council before the event and representatives from the Council and the airport will be on hand at Taff Embankment and at the airport car park. Additional security personnel, handling agents and airport staff have also been recruited to deal with the additional numbers at the airport itself.
Passengers travelling on scheduled flights to the airport are required to find their own way into the city centre. Plenty of options are available, including taxis and hourly bus and train services. Click here for more information on how to get to and from the airport, and for details on how to book a taxi.
Repeating the highly successful operation conducted when the Heineken Cup final was last held in Cardiff in 2006, and by working closely with Cardiff Council, the coach companies involved, the Heineken Cup organisers and our partners at the airport we're confident that this year will yet again prove to be a smooth and seamless operation on behalf of Cardiff Airport.
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Old 16th May 2008, 13:05
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Drunks...

The 22 were off-loaded/refused at CWL.
I don't think that the problem starts at the bars of EDI/BFS etc as the pax we receive are too well oiled. Their condition indicates that they must already have been on it at home,earlier. If the dep lounge staff are serving them further, they are serving drunken persons which is illegal. As you say, they should be refused travel there but as indicated in my second question, are the security people fully trained and / or experienced enough to deal with the problem ?
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Old 20th May 2008, 06:07
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Heineken weekend

Is the bull-ring car park hosting a "Heineken Marquee" this weekend like last time?
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Old 20th May 2008, 12:38
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Hope not!!! Last time it was a complete f**k up. Rained on that weekend and it flooded the tent (Terminal2) nice river through the middle. Lots of beer was sold but hardly any toilets were laid on, so the passengers ended up using the side of the tent. Really bad organisation to say the least.
Sorry to moan, but thats the way it was
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Old 20th May 2008, 20:30
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Drunks

The party were offloaded from the a/c for being abusive to the crew and alarming other passengers. Had quite a few problems recently with pax drinking too much and causing problems. They shouldn't get past the gate.
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Old 20th May 2008, 20:56
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more drunks...

It seems to be the worst year by far regarding arrivals who are clearly intoxicated. What's going on? Sure, they don't get too much in flight (if any ?).
It seem that CWL security are doing a good job at preventing travel (see above ). Police involved in an incident yesterday again with a father and son arr from Eire (I think). We had ICTS, ICTS managers, the ADM having to attend as well.

Funny thing is, the rugby weekend will probably pass problem free in this regard. Unless, of course, the Heineken tent is put in minibus car park - leave the beer selling to pubs/clubs in Cardiff who are geared up for it and let the airport and its infrastructure do the job that it does best.

Only another five and a half months to go until we hibernate again though !!!
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Old 21st May 2008, 15:44
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Angry Approach road frustration

Could an NCP operative be placed on the pick up side of the approach road to deal with all parking concerns? At present, the security operative seems to spend more time in the pick up lane directing motorists who have no idea where they are or to which lane they should use. There are plenty of road markings/signs indicating which lane to use, they obviously managed to find J33 of the M4, so why is there is so much congenstion here at peak points, I can forsee it getting much worse as summer season kicks in. And some top-coat tarmac to fill the double pothole on the drop off side where the power cable crosses road to security booth.
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Old 21st May 2008, 18:45
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Oh well the fun starts tomorrow..............

GIE ATR (ATR manufacturers) flying in the Toulouse team, aircraft then off to Filton to park up until Saturday night when it returns to CWL for the departure.

Flightline MD83 & Futura 734 in on Friday from Shannon along with new Italian Airline Air Bee operating a CWL-NAP flight on an MD82.

Then there is Saturday to contend with.................hmmmm is all I can say on that !!!!!

I now hear that BRS also full with CWL refusals, both airports have got their hands full.

Anyone heard anything about these Air Atlantique DC3 flights ? Who will look after the aircraft & passengers ? Aviance, Servisair or Signature ?
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Old 21st May 2008, 18:54
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Drop off....

1. It seems that the manual barrier to drop-off is to be removed. This means that the ''high security bollard'' is to be reinstated apparently. Knew it wouldn't be too long !!
2. The Rhoose to CWL fault-line by the (slime covered) yellow hut is to be re-filled next week too.
3. The 20 minute free stay to use drop off is to be scrapped.... £1.00 per 15/20 mins. Just like BHX then. ( £1.00 per quarter hour there.)

Welcome to Cardiff International Airport!

You really do only get one chance to make a first impression.
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Old 22nd May 2008, 06:12
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Slow FIDS/ Stuck?

The CWLFLY fids seem to be very slow and now stuck today, it will not refresh at all, the same in work? Is it the work they are doing in the service yard where fire was? What happened to www.cwlfly.com/FIDSCOMPLETE.asp , these were much better?
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Old 22nd May 2008, 20:55
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Chaos at Central Search 2 days running, with delays taken on one or 2 flights yesterday, but with the MON A330 today at peak period, it caused even further problems.

Cue for security going around the info desk, and past the toilets. It was only when the liquid restrictions came into force i have seen such bad queues at security when at that point they were going down the stairs. Saying that if the Baby EDI was an international departure then im sure the queue would have been on the stairs.

Air Traffic Controllers on Strike today causing huge slots were the saving grace of security. Otherwise the majority of flights around the 06:-30 - 07:30 departure time would have taken delays.

This issue needs to be addressed sooner rather than later, and allowing the A330 to depart at the peak period is just plain daft and will continue to cause problems. I don't think the based airlines were too impressed with this mornings performance, which station representatives walking the line along with handling agents.

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Airport have an arangement with Special Branch to pilot test a new system where a representative of Special Branch would be at security throughout the day, this will allow us to call any flight to any gate, which is excellent news. Lets just hope the pilot scheme is succesfull and would couse so much less problems.
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Old 22nd May 2008, 21:36
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This issue needs to be addressed sooner rather than later, and allowing the A330 to depart at the peak period is just plain daft and will continue to cause problems.
If CWL can't sort itself out with enough staff to handle lets face it just a few flights why on earth should the airport expect to attract new airlines and routes. It is up to the airport to ensure there are enough staff to handle the people through the airport. Security isn't something new it is fairly standard if they can't handle it then sort it out it isn't exactly difficult to say we will have so many people going through the airport at a certain time thus we will roster more people on is it?
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Old 22nd May 2008, 22:21
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Well they have more staff but they are stood not in uniform at Central search with visitor passes so i have been told. If this is correct i would find it shocking how a person without a full airside pass with security checks could be processing staff which have have been checked. (Obviously they will not be left unattended though).

If they are having problems this week, good luck for saturday thats all i can say, they must have advanced passenger figures from the airlines so why didn't they bring these new staff online before may 1st.

BmiBaby has allready gone to common check-in but not sure if this is due to cost cutting by the airline or a request by the airport due to lack of space.

Passengers are still leaving it late to go trough security and with these queues then no wonder theres delayes, the only way this could be rectified is if upstairs was made airside and all shops and amenities were airside, this would encourage passengers to come through earlier.
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Old 22nd May 2008, 22:32
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The whole infrastructure is wrong at Cardiff. Sadly the money isn't there to sort it out. (Aside from the obvious, and pointless, speedhumps!)
From a passengers point of view -
- The approach road to the airport is a mess. Its hard enough to find which route to come in on provided you know which car park you are going too. Then getting into them or up to the terminal is another obstacle.
- Once in the terminal there is not enough check-in space. Bearing in mind on a Thurs morning and Thurs afternoon, EVERY check-in desk should be in use. Sadly as some desks are out of service, airlines and handling agents are having to put up with whats available.
- The baggage belt is ancient and often slows check-in down. Whether this is cause by the belts themselves, or the Xray machine's.
These retrictions at check-in cause queues. The check-in hall lacks the space to cope with these queues.
- Upstairs we go to an over priced cafe and possible long delays at security as described below.
- Once finally in departures, cramped, warm, nothing to do. God help any passengers on a long delay. There isn't even an arcade anymore! There's a massive area in the new departures space. This could be spruced up with seating provided just to give more room.
-Once called for boarding, the unlucky people that have the depressing walk to gates 11-15, have to endure a lack of facilities, including seating, and a crampedstanding barriered area at gates 12-15 to hold passenger until boarding.

Great job CWL! Just what airlines and passengers want!

The more these queues happen, the more potential revenue is wasted. Pax spend more time in queues than in the shops (or shop!) Take a leaf out of BAA's book.
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Old 22nd May 2008, 22:53
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And to some it all up the Wh Smiths shop no longer does sandwiches now thats it's taken over the world news.

Lovely i can have a BK but can't have a meal as i can't take the drink through. The queue other morning for WW alone was from the snake at desks 2-7 along the check-in area down to the ticket desk.

With rmours of Ryanair, WW wanting a 4th (we'll see) and aim of increased presence by Flybe it would be interesting to see what they have in mind. They need to be more pro-active otherwise we won't get anymore airlines.
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Old 23rd May 2008, 06:46
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Long summer ahead...

It really is going to be a long, long season... for anyone who works in and around CWL. The level of frustration among all concerned is pretty high with what appears to be one bad management ''decision'' after another along with a lack of money to even attempt to improve things (other than crazy temporary nonsense ie the car park hump installation then removal ????). I see that even the creator and force majeure of the 30 year plan has decided to ''resign'' ( aka pushed? ). Off to better parties/dinners, sorry marketing strategy brainstorm sessions away from aviation.
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bad managment

Seams like Mr Duffy is a waste of time. I have complained to managment loads of time staff seem to forget they have to collect plates and things. we should send these threads to cardiff managment but why do they worry they still get paid what ever happens Cardiff should be one of the top regional airports we seem to be falling behind
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