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On a serious note, I am a bit concerned at the impression such a service gives to inbound travellers to the region.
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From Air Southwest web site Newquay and Plymouth daily (one flight comes in/out via one of the above) starts May!
By the way I went NCL-ACE-NCL recently without any problems at either airport, in fact on way back I was in my car (from long stay) less than 30min after touch down!
By the way I went NCL-ACE-NCL recently without any problems at either airport, in fact on way back I was in my car (from long stay) less than 30min after touch down!
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Good news about WOW - appears to be routing PLH-NQY-NCL-NQY/PLH......I think this route has a fair bit of potential as it is being operated on a 50 seater aircraft and the terrible alternatives by road or rail.
Me and my colleagues are delighted as we have an office in Plymouth which we need to go to frequently!
Me and my colleagues are delighted as we have an office in Plymouth which we need to go to frequently!
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Ginga Worm - it does have potential, I regularly fly to exeter and am suprised how many are travelling onto the likes of Plymouth. BMI Baby also did very well on a 737 Teeside to Newquay. I would suggest that in future before typing your post think about what you have written before hitting that submit button.
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A look at old CAA stats indicate that when Air Wales were operating NCL-PLH (excluding the stop in CWL) they were generally carrying around 2395 - 2798pax per month, in the summer (although 6G operated twice daily).
Even if WOW achieve the lower end of this, say 2400, that equates to about 40 per flight and this doesn't include the additional pax likely to fly to NQY.
....not bad on a 50 seater aircraft!
I think if they can achieve these figures, WOW should do well on these routes
Even if WOW achieve the lower end of this, say 2400, that equates to about 40 per flight and this doesn't include the additional pax likely to fly to NQY.
....not bad on a 50 seater aircraft!
I think if they can achieve these figures, WOW should do well on these routes
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When Air Wales ran the flights to PLH, the loads were invariably rather poor, regardless what the numbers might infer. More than half of the flights barely had pax numbers in double figures. Hardly a resounding success.
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Is this in place of the planned Fed-ex flight to MAN to link with the new MAN - Memphis service?
Good news about WOW
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Ginga Worm - I do think before pressing that submit button look at my previous posts, my predicitions are very rarely wrong, this is probably due to many years in the airline industry. I suspect more than yourself.
Not sure where you get your info from in your last rant when calling WOW a tupenny hapenny operation as WOW have been very successful in niche markets from the Southwest. I have flown with them on many occasions and found them very well organised and put some of the bigger airlines to shame. As for your suggestion of using the train you have never obviously sat for 8 hours on Virgin cross country to the Southwest and when was the last time the UK coach route was reliable especially so over long distances.
Lets give new routes the benefit of the doubt, it serves no purpose to be critical of a route as soon as its announced, this one should prove successful given the time taken by road or rail to get to the Southwest. However I suggest that we see some passenger figures before been so negative and critical.
Not sure where you get your info from in your last rant when calling WOW a tupenny hapenny operation as WOW have been very successful in niche markets from the Southwest. I have flown with them on many occasions and found them very well organised and put some of the bigger airlines to shame. As for your suggestion of using the train you have never obviously sat for 8 hours on Virgin cross country to the Southwest and when was the last time the UK coach route was reliable especially so over long distances.
Lets give new routes the benefit of the doubt, it serves no purpose to be critical of a route as soon as its announced, this one should prove successful given the time taken by road or rail to get to the Southwest. However I suggest that we see some passenger figures before been so negative and critical.
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NCLEFLIGHTS - Well said WOW is a well set up airline and they provide and excellent service to pax. A few, much larger, airlines could certainly learn from them.
GINGA WORM - Air Wales ceased ops due to much more complicated reasons than load factors to Plymouth to suggest this as the reason for the demise of the airline is simply crazy.
To also suggest that a 8 hours on a train is a walk in the park is also slightly crazy especially if your a time concious business man/women. Given the option of 8 hours on a overcrowded dirty train or less than a couple on a plane - well it aint rocked science which one your going to choose.
Given the pax figures on the Newquay - Durham Tees Valley route when baby operated it then Newcastle - Newquay should prove a success. That is of course unless you have evidence to the contary ginga worm.
GINGA WORM - Air Wales ceased ops due to much more complicated reasons than load factors to Plymouth to suggest this as the reason for the demise of the airline is simply crazy.
To also suggest that a 8 hours on a train is a walk in the park is also slightly crazy especially if your a time concious business man/women. Given the option of 8 hours on a overcrowded dirty train or less than a couple on a plane - well it aint rocked science which one your going to choose.
Given the pax figures on the Newquay - Durham Tees Valley route when baby operated it then Newcastle - Newquay should prove a success. That is of course unless you have evidence to the contary ginga worm.
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Yep,
As it looks like they won't be as flying much as last summer!
I don't think Jet2 have had any more reliability issues than any of the other operators - or did I dream that we operated some flights last week for TCX and that EZ has had some tech probs too and nobody mention FJE!
It didn't stop Jet2 wining Best European Short Haul Operator for a second year in a row ................... oops did that sound like praise on a PPRUNE forum!!
As it looks like they won't be as flying much as last summer!
I don't think Jet2 have had any more reliability issues than any of the other operators - or did I dream that we operated some flights last week for TCX and that EZ has had some tech probs too and nobody mention FJE!
It didn't stop Jet2 wining Best European Short Haul Operator for a second year in a row ................... oops did that sound like praise on a PPRUNE forum!!
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Jet2 seemed to have regular 3 hour+ delays to eg AGP this summer (much more than that both ways for me), almost weekly. Their prices for next summer are attractive but I'm hesitating to book anything if it means losing another night of my holiday and endless hours of hanging about at airports.
EZY are not at all cheap and don't deserve to be called a low cost airline, but I have to say I've never had a problem with their flights.
EZY are not at all cheap and don't deserve to be called a low cost airline, but I have to say I've never had a problem with their flights.
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urm.... kinda looks that way to me?!
I wouldnt worry about not wanting to get on a dodgy jet2 757 for your flights to AGP next summer either, its operated by 733 most of the time!
Only 1 757 next summer in NCL, and it operates PMI and the odd MJV/AGP and the canary islands.
Of course this could all change as things do, but from the rumour mill Jet2 will be doing a bit of stream lining in the next year, slowing down expansion and leveling off... catching their breathe is the term i heard. So if this is to be belived you could have a quiet roster 757speed!!
I wouldnt worry about not wanting to get on a dodgy jet2 757 for your flights to AGP next summer either, its operated by 733 most of the time!
Only 1 757 next summer in NCL, and it operates PMI and the odd MJV/AGP and the canary islands.
Of course this could all change as things do, but from the rumour mill Jet2 will be doing a bit of stream lining in the next year, slowing down expansion and leveling off... catching their breathe is the term i heard. So if this is to be belived you could have a quiet roster 757speed!!
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Pleased but surprised at the LGW continuing for summer 2008 ! Figures must be improving.
Assuming they continue to do Krakow and Bergen with the same frequency in 2008 as summer 2007, then the amount of flying is about the same next summer as last summer, but with one less aircraft. (I am assuming the 2008 Malaga schedules are about the same as 2007 ???? please correct me if I am wrong)
So where is the much talked about expansion ?? Is it not now going to happen ??
Assuming they continue to do Krakow and Bergen with the same frequency in 2008 as summer 2007, then the amount of flying is about the same next summer as last summer, but with one less aircraft. (I am assuming the 2008 Malaga schedules are about the same as 2007 ???? please correct me if I am wrong)
So where is the much talked about expansion ?? Is it not now going to happen ??
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Pleased but surprised at the LGW continuing for summer 2008 ! Figures must be improving.
So if this is to be belived you could have a quiet roster 757speed!!