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TFS from last night had a tech problem downroute resulting in night stop, that aircraft ops the AGP tonight, which is now delayed till 1940.
ORK is delayed as PSA operates first and PSA often gets bad slot delays on a sat morning, PSA is getting a busy little airport.
Its the typical summer problems an airline faces, slots, busy schedule, tech aircraft. All companies face it.
Regarding the comments about Easyjet and their "new" aircraft, when they say their aircraft is 2yrs old... I take it they not actually talking about their NCL based aircraft, and Jet2 is only 4 yrs old, when Easyjet was 4yrs old they were operating -300's, a bit sly I think. Personally its the crew and service at Jet2 that is better, their crew are so well presented and address their passengers as "sir and madam" NOT MATE... just little things like that, really set them apart.
TFS from last night had a tech problem downroute resulting in night stop, that aircraft ops the AGP tonight, which is now delayed till 1940.
ORK is delayed as PSA operates first and PSA often gets bad slot delays on a sat morning, PSA is getting a busy little airport.
Its the typical summer problems an airline faces, slots, busy schedule, tech aircraft. All companies face it.
Regarding the comments about Easyjet and their "new" aircraft, when they say their aircraft is 2yrs old... I take it they not actually talking about their NCL based aircraft, and Jet2 is only 4 yrs old, when Easyjet was 4yrs old they were operating -300's, a bit sly I think. Personally its the crew and service at Jet2 that is better, their crew are so well presented and address their passengers as "sir and madam" NOT MATE... just little things like that, really set them apart.
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Heathrow, Gatwick, Leeds-Bradford, Manchester, East Midlands, Edinburgh, Amsterdam, Paris(CDG), Rome(Ciampino), Lyons, Chambery, Turin, Sofia, Madrid, Barcelona, Salzburg, Innsbruck, Munich, Dubrovnik, Pula, Islamabad, Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, Phuket, Vienna, Prague, Khon Kaen, Chiag Mai, Chiang Rai, Koh Samui, Hat Yai, Geneva, Bali, Mae Hong Son.........
After a night out these are just some of the airports that spring to mind that I have used over the last few years and my comment still stands.
Heathrow, Gatwick, Leeds-Bradford, Manchester, East Midlands, Edinburgh, Amsterdam, Paris(CDG), Rome(Ciampino), Lyons, Chambery, Turin, Sofia, Madrid, Barcelona, Salzburg, Innsbruck, Munich, Dubrovnik, Pula, Islamabad, Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, Phuket, Vienna, Prague, Khon Kaen, Chiag Mai, Chiang Rai, Koh Samui, Hat Yai, Geneva, Bali, Mae Hong Son.........
After a night out these are just some of the airports that spring to mind that I have used over the last few years and my comment still stands.
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Lets just take EGKK was there last week biggest hell whole going, 20min queue in 6ft wide corridor getting off the 101 trying to pass out bound punters at second security point! Then 45min thro a not very busy security outbound for 104......
As opposed to a peak time (0545) queue at NCL and I mean queue back to beyond security area of 14min with three machines going, not bad I thought!
People are getting bored of your slagging off of the facilities and workers at NCL, yes I do work at NCL and I would never say its perfect but it aint as bad as you think!
Lets just take EGKK was there last week biggest hell whole going, 20min queue in 6ft wide corridor getting off the 101 trying to pass out bound punters at second security point! Then 45min thro a not very busy security outbound for 104......
As opposed to a peak time (0545) queue at NCL and I mean queue back to beyond security area of 14min with three machines going, not bad I thought!
People are getting bored of your slagging off of the facilities and workers at NCL, yes I do work at NCL and I would never say its perfect but it aint as bad as you think!
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People are getting bored of your slagging off of the facilities and workers at NCL
If you loathe using Newcastle so much, then cart your self off down the road, where I'm sure they would love an extra passenger through the door.
Not much in the way of route diversity though....
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Ok Ash is being a little boring bashing NCL and maybe a little harsh. Although I hope people like skyman have taken notice how boring and upsetting it can be for staff when you continuly slag an airport off. Same goes for Delta 8 as there is no need to bring MME into this conversation.
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Just returned from a trip to Dublin and I had the misfortune to fly through NCL with Ryanair. (This was Friday 22nd June). Firstly the flight was late, all the passengers were down in the gate when they announced a 15 minute delay about 21.30 so this is 15 minutes before it was due to arrive. By 22.00 no aircraft had arrived, and about then they announced an hours delay. Would Servisair not already have known at 21.30 that it would not be 15 minutes late as the aircraft would not have even left Dublin when they announced the 15 minutes delay? Just a question? Aircraft arrived at 22.40, so with the Ryanair 25 minute turnaround I thought we would be off by 2310-23.15. Oh no, because it was late, it had to park on a remote stand. I am guessing, as there was no information, the buses had to take all the passengers from the inbound aircraft and then the same buses took us back to the aircraft. In any event it was not until 23.35 that we started to even board the bus and the aircraft departed about 23.50, so the turnaround was actually 1 hour, because of parking on a remote stand. Surely Ryanair can't be happy with this. I can probably accpet all of this but to top it all off there was no priority boarding call, which I know is only to get on the bus first, but when we asked where the call was, the boarding agent was downright rude, argued with us and as we walked away under her breath muttered ' oh whatever'. Really good customer service Servisair. Next time it is taking an afternoon off and flying from MME.
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"mmeman, did you not intend to write. Just returned from a trip to Dublin and was fortunate to fly through NCL"
Are you joking? Another of the "head in the sand" brigade.
All I can say is, the opinions of NCL from a PAX point of view is VERY different to the opion of people that work there. Not just my personal opinion, I have to say, but that of everyone I know who has had the MISFORTUNE to pass through it.
Tho' just to say I have had no problems with flying EZY and can recommend them. Speak as you find. Of course after you check in they still think there are bombs is your shoes/belt/bottle of water(for those with them) etc etc.
Are you joking? Another of the "head in the sand" brigade.
All I can say is, the opinions of NCL from a PAX point of view is VERY different to the opion of people that work there. Not just my personal opinion, I have to say, but that of everyone I know who has had the MISFORTUNE to pass through it.
Tho' just to say I have had no problems with flying EZY and can recommend them. Speak as you find. Of course after you check in they still think there are bombs is your shoes/belt/bottle of water(for those with them) etc etc.
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Ash why do you have to make an argument of everything? Regarding the security measures, yes some are a little extreme but at the end of the day you'd rather be safe than sorry.
Now I'm a support of MME and don't use NCL but I can tell you this that they have been very succsessful as a comercial pax carrying airport. One of the fall outs from this is they may have grown too quickly. This along with problems out of NCL's managments control such as tech aircraft have lead to problems. This though doesn't mean the airport is as bad as you make out. Make your comments and defend them but do not carry on banging the drum and likewise let other people have their say, Delta 8 shouldn't of made the mis/fortune comment but I suspect he was joking, maybe because of the fact that like myself mmeman is an MME supporter and was using NCL.
Please now can we return to civilised sensible comments on these threads.
Now I'm a support of MME and don't use NCL but I can tell you this that they have been very succsessful as a comercial pax carrying airport. One of the fall outs from this is they may have grown too quickly. This along with problems out of NCL's managments control such as tech aircraft have lead to problems. This though doesn't mean the airport is as bad as you make out. Make your comments and defend them but do not carry on banging the drum and likewise let other people have their say, Delta 8 shouldn't of made the mis/fortune comment but I suspect he was joking, maybe because of the fact that like myself mmeman is an MME supporter and was using NCL.
Please now can we return to civilised sensible comments on these threads.
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Ok Ash is being a little boring bashing NCL and maybe a little harsh. Although I hope people like skyman have taken notice how boring and upsetting it can be for staff when you continuly slag an airport off.
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Skyman I am refering to your comments about MME on other threads and how your comments could be upsetting to people, like how Ash's comments upset a few on this thread. MME may not push the millions through the terminal that NCL does but this doesn't mean that MME is uneconmical as an airport. If you have evidence suggesting otherwise please do show me. Yes granted MME may not be doing as well as many hoped but it doesn't warrant a knee jerk action like you suggested in some previous threads.
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Lets face it, all airports have problems when mass expansion and route growth takes place, and according to the masterplan NCL is building to cope with and improve the service offered. Lets hope it is going to happen quickly as early mornings are causing delays to departing flights due to 'airport facilities', which incidentally is an IATA recognised delay code.
Regarding the comment made on Servisair, the only way they will improve on service is if passengers actually complain to them and I suspect if infact it did take 1 hour to turnaround a FR flight, then Ryan will have some questions to ask the management?!
Delays
Does anyone have a league table of airlines at NCL relating to delays so far this year? Quite a few carriers seem to be having a rough time of late, I would be interested to see where they stand in a punctuality league table.
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Regarding the comment made on Servisair, the only way they will improve on service is if passengers actually complain to them and I suspect if infact it did take 1 hour to turnaround a FR flight, then Ryan will have some questions to ask the management?!
Delays
Does anyone have a league table of airlines at NCL relating to delays so far this year? Quite a few carriers seem to be having a rough time of late, I would be interested to see where they stand in a punctuality league table.
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Regarding Ryanair, if they have the misfortune of being unable to arrive on time at one of the busier times of the day, and subsequently pitch up at the airport when most of the ground crews are knocking off for the night (some after a 16 hour shift), then it is just bad luck.
The inbound nightstopping aircraft, which are on time, will be given priority over the delayed flight. Invariably the crews servicing these inbound nightstoppers are completing their final duty before going home. Why should they be inconvenienced and forced to stop and do extra work, just because somebody is running late? And particularly so when Ryanair operations are such a pleasant and charming bunch of people to deal with. They seem to think that 3rd World Dictators have much to teach us in terms of man management techniques.
Similarly, for the teams running the airport facilities (coaching etc). They are manned up in order to meet the schedule for the day, and if somebody rocks up at the end of the day, way off schedule, then the facilities just aren't going to be there.
Unfortunately, late aircraft tend to go to the end of the queue in priority terms, and it is double bad luck when it happens 'out of hours' as it were.
The inbound nightstopping aircraft, which are on time, will be given priority over the delayed flight. Invariably the crews servicing these inbound nightstoppers are completing their final duty before going home. Why should they be inconvenienced and forced to stop and do extra work, just because somebody is running late? And particularly so when Ryanair operations are such a pleasant and charming bunch of people to deal with. They seem to think that 3rd World Dictators have much to teach us in terms of man management techniques.
Similarly, for the teams running the airport facilities (coaching etc). They are manned up in order to meet the schedule for the day, and if somebody rocks up at the end of the day, way off schedule, then the facilities just aren't going to be there.
Unfortunately, late aircraft tend to go to the end of the queue in priority terms, and it is double bad luck when it happens 'out of hours' as it were.
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EK 1st flight is full
EK 1st flight on sept 1st all 278 seats have been sold with many more dates in october full also.
Demand has been ahead of expectations and has sold better at this stage than when EK lauched flights to dubai from Glasgow.
Looks like we are on a winner with this route!
Im going to make a guess that by 2010 this route has become 2x a day most days.
Demand has been ahead of expectations and has sold better at this stage than when EK lauched flights to dubai from Glasgow.
Looks like we are on a winner with this route!
Im going to make a guess that by 2010 this route has become 2x a day most days.
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Demand has been ahead of expectations and has sold better at this stage than when EK lauched flights to dubai from Glasgow.
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Something else to think about... Jet2 are interested in doing Thu or Fri, and Sun or Mon to JFK/EWR.... they are currently in the process of sorting out ETOPs certification, possibly with the help of someone like Titan.
The 767 rumour is stronger than ever with rumours that 2x 767s (not sure -200 or -300) have been sourced and bought and due to join the fleet 2Q08, one to be based LBA and the other main base will be NCL but it will operate from other UK bases (mainly MAN)
RE Easyjets 2yr old aircraft vs Jet2s 18yr old aircraft
I see Easyjet have cancelled CDG and CIA 2nite, and also BFS in the morning!
.... and I see all of Jet2s flights operated today! hmmm.... people in glass houses eh
The 767 rumour is stronger than ever with rumours that 2x 767s (not sure -200 or -300) have been sourced and bought and due to join the fleet 2Q08, one to be based LBA and the other main base will be NCL but it will operate from other UK bases (mainly MAN)
RE Easyjets 2yr old aircraft vs Jet2s 18yr old aircraft
I see Easyjet have cancelled CDG and CIA 2nite, and also BFS in the morning!
.... and I see all of Jet2s flights operated today! hmmm.... people in glass houses eh
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