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Dublin eire
No i don't agree with that. England is one of only a few Countries in the world where your origin is no block on how well you do. We have lots of succesful companies from Japan, Germany,India and the USA, they are succesful mainly because of the quality of the product, not inspite of it!
Don't get me wrong Ryanair gets you to where you are going normally on time and with a very high dispatch rate, this is off the back of new equipment and driving (not motivating) their employee's, or more accurately their sub-contractors.
It is if anything goes wrong that sets Ryanair apart from other succesful companies, can one imagin Toyota or Mercedes saying the crap that MOL sprouts or treating complaints with utter contempt? or driving delivery lorries around with Bye Bye GM,
So no its nothing to do with Ryanair being Irish, the English by and large have a fondness for most things Irish, in fact most things that aren't English
I think MOL brings shame on the Irish Nation, reminds me of the tarmac pikey gangs that prey on the old and stupid. Being civil costs next to nothing
Don't get me wrong Ryanair gets you to where you are going normally on time and with a very high dispatch rate, this is off the back of new equipment and driving (not motivating) their employee's, or more accurately their sub-contractors.
It is if anything goes wrong that sets Ryanair apart from other succesful companies, can one imagin Toyota or Mercedes saying the crap that MOL sprouts or treating complaints with utter contempt? or driving delivery lorries around with Bye Bye GM,
So no its nothing to do with Ryanair being Irish, the English by and large have a fondness for most things Irish, in fact most things that aren't English
I think MOL brings shame on the Irish Nation, reminds me of the tarmac pikey gangs that prey on the old and stupid. Being civil costs next to nothing
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How else do you explain the mods deleting Ryanair's positive posts and not deleting any negative posts? The positive posts were generally well made points where there were some posts made by people looking for petitions to get rid of Ryanair at Manchester last Friday which were plain ridiculous. I think the mods have some explaining to do! I'm not exclusively pro-Ryanair but think people have an agenda here (referring to the mods)!
Are the mods Balpa members by any chance???
Are the mods Balpa members by any chance???
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Dublin Eire
I am of Scots/Irish descent living in England but consider my self primarily European. I have no bias at all against Eire or anything Irish simply because of its origins, I have spent many fine times in Ireland, mostly on the west coast. But I detest RYR for their attitude to PAX, they make the term 'SLF' almost dignified, and think that their attitude towards employees stinks, otherwise the idea of a BRK contract within an airline would be unthinkable.
I would also steer clear of bad mouthing mods if I were you.
I would also steer clear of bad mouthing mods if I were you.
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Well, if posts have been deleted because they are known Ryanair trolls then that should be stated. The mod's have to be transparent if we are to have balanced debates...
I'm not saying all the attacks here are anti-Irish because people are anti-Ryanair but I do find the terms people use to describe Ryaniar as biggoted and offensive. I'm Irish, obviously, but hearing people referring to individuals and groups of people as 'pikies' and other such connotations is unacceptable and not very intelligent. I don't see the mods doing anything to stop people using such language.
Here is the transparency you seek: None of the AA&R Forum moderators have the slightest interest for or against Ryanair. We moderate threads, we don't participate in love/hate fests over a bloody airline.
The posts that have been deleted have generally contained personal attacks or have exceeded our fairly liberal standards of good taste.
Interestingly, a search of this forum shows that the only use of the word "pikies" was in this post. If you find a term you consider ethnically disparaging feel free to use the "Report This Post" function.
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I'm not saying all the attacks here are anti-Irish because people are anti-Ryanair but I do find the terms people use to describe Ryaniar as biggoted and offensive. I'm Irish, obviously, but hearing people referring to individuals and groups of people as 'pikies' and other such connotations is unacceptable and not very intelligent. I don't see the mods doing anything to stop people using such language.
Here is the transparency you seek: None of the AA&R Forum moderators have the slightest interest for or against Ryanair. We moderate threads, we don't participate in love/hate fests over a bloody airline.
The posts that have been deleted have generally contained personal attacks or have exceeded our fairly liberal standards of good taste.
Interestingly, a search of this forum shows that the only use of the word "pikies" was in this post. If you find a term you consider ethnically disparaging feel free to use the "Report This Post" function.
Cheers,
The Mods
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Quotation of the day (my choice)
The European Regions Airline Association (ERA) Director General Mike Ambrose about Ryanair's CEO
It's probably one of the reasons why all these opinions about FR differ so much.
@Finland
Compare, the Republic of Ireland only has 4.5 million people and most of them are not very far from Dublin. And the Dublin Airport is not much cheaper.
Well, DUB could be an exemption from the "marketing support" rule, elsewhere required.
But apart from that, Ryanair's chance in Finland might be elsewhere: the Russians from across the border (and to some extent St. Petersburg for the Westerners). So far FR do not seem to share that opinion.
"Michael O'Leary is a cheap tailor. He has allowed a lot of people to buy clothes at affordable prices, but done nothing for the tailoring profession."
It's probably one of the reasons why all these opinions about FR differ so much.
@Finland
(the) country only has 5 or 6 million people in a large area and most of them are not very far from Helsinki Vantaa
Well, DUB could be an exemption from the "marketing support" rule, elsewhere required.
But apart from that, Ryanair's chance in Finland might be elsewhere: the Russians from across the border (and to some extent St. Petersburg for the Westerners). So far FR do not seem to share that opinion.
Dublin Eire
You make a fair point and there has been a succession of posters who seem to believe they have the right to abuse all and sundry just because they disagree with a business. If you don't like them don't use them.
Aside from CIA rendition flights there are few flights where people are forced against their will to travel on.
Mods generally do a good job but like everyone they are not without bias.
It clearly galls many to see Ryanair suceeding again and again while their own favourites fall to pieces.
MOL has clearly refused to buy into the UK media lovie scene and become part of the estabishment which galls the media even more as they can't claim to have made somebody before they destroy it.
Its visible again and again where one Ryanair incident gets blown out of proportion where the same thing happening to BA / Easyjet gets ignored.
What the detractors can't cope with is that month after month Ryanair continues to grow and the eminent demise merchants keep having to come up with more and more excuses why they continue to succeed.
Racedo, we value your spirited discussion. However, an Administrator of the Site explained the situation in terms of Ryanair moderation in a few posts above. Your third paragraph appears to be ignoring that. Please stay focussed on the Ryanair discussion and not on the moderation.
What is a pikie?
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You make a fair point and there has been a succession of posters who seem to believe they have the right to abuse all and sundry just because they disagree with a business. If you don't like them don't use them.
Aside from CIA rendition flights there are few flights where people are forced against their will to travel on.
Mods generally do a good job but like everyone they are not without bias.
It clearly galls many to see Ryanair suceeding again and again while their own favourites fall to pieces.
MOL has clearly refused to buy into the UK media lovie scene and become part of the estabishment which galls the media even more as they can't claim to have made somebody before they destroy it.
Its visible again and again where one Ryanair incident gets blown out of proportion where the same thing happening to BA / Easyjet gets ignored.
What the detractors can't cope with is that month after month Ryanair continues to grow and the eminent demise merchants keep having to come up with more and more excuses why they continue to succeed.
Racedo, we value your spirited discussion. However, an Administrator of the Site explained the situation in terms of Ryanair moderation in a few posts above. Your third paragraph appears to be ignoring that. Please stay focussed on the Ryanair discussion and not on the moderation.
What is a pikie?
Thank you
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Dublin Eire
I don't see the mods doing anything to stop people using such language.
I don't have a problem with Ryanair driving down the cost of flying.
I do have a problem with being abused, insulted, taken for every penny i've got on late, dirty aeroplanes, with little or no ability to complain, to airports that are miles away from where I want to be, whilst watching the terms and conditions of employment of an industry I belong to driven down to the absolute rock bottom.
That is why I will never fly with Ryanair again, no matter how cheap the price, for business or pleasure.
I will be happy to see MOL lose all his money. I would wish the same on RYR, except I would be sad to see colleagues lose their jobs. I will settle for never seeing MOL's mug or name in the media ever again.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. The above are mine.
TTR
I do have a problem with being abused, insulted, taken for every penny i've got on late, dirty aeroplanes, with little or no ability to complain, to airports that are miles away from where I want to be, whilst watching the terms and conditions of employment of an industry I belong to driven down to the absolute rock bottom.
That is why I will never fly with Ryanair again, no matter how cheap the price, for business or pleasure.
I will be happy to see MOL lose all his money. I would wish the same on RYR, except I would be sad to see colleagues lose their jobs. I will settle for never seeing MOL's mug or name in the media ever again.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. The above are mine.
TTR
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Quote:
"Michael O'Leary is a cheap tailor. He has allowed a lot of people to buy clothes at affordable prices, but done nothing for the tailoring profession."
The European Regions Airline Association (ERA) Director General Mike Ambrose about Ryanair's CEO
"Michael O'Leary is a cheap tailor. He has allowed a lot of people to buy clothes at affordable prices, but done nothing for the tailoring profession."
The European Regions Airline Association (ERA) Director General Mike Ambrose about Ryanair's CEO
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Incorrect. Within the last month I described MOL in mildly disparaging terms and mods issued a mild rebuke in the form of a reminder of site rules.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. The above are mine.
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Fr Winter 09
To change the topic slightly -
Its still worrying that the winter schedule is very messy. I was browsing EDI for example and there are gaps all over the place.
Any ideas on when this is to be finalised, as were only a few months away!
Its still worrying that the winter schedule is very messy. I was browsing EDI for example and there are gaps all over the place.
Any ideas on when this is to be finalised, as were only a few months away!
I do have a problem with being abused, insulted, taken for every penny i've got on late, dirty aeroplanes, with little or no ability to complain, to airports that are miles away from where I want to be, whilst watching the terms and conditions of employment of an industry I belong to driven down to the absolute rock bottom.
If I might be so bold as to refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave earlier on the subject of Ryanair's punctuality..
Guess you really fit the ex employee on a blog bit.
Racedo: I know RYR's OTP is allegedly very good (I have seen the statistics), however i have been on half a dozen RYR flights and never once been on time. I have also had one flight cancelled. I can only speak from my experience.
Other operators are certainly comparable. I have never been inconvenienced by any of the other airlines I have flown with. And it is certainly a lot more fun not to have CC on the tannoy every 30 seconds trying to sell me things.
TTR
Other operators are certainly comparable. I have never been inconvenienced by any of the other airlines I have flown with. And it is certainly a lot more fun not to have CC on the tannoy every 30 seconds trying to sell me things.
TTR
And it is certainly a lot more fun not to have CC on the tannoy every 30 seconds trying to sell me things.
The reason we had very few delays was because when a tech delay was inevitable, they simply "cancelled" that flight and then put it on again once the problem was solved....
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Anyone know where FR will base all the a/c they'll withdraw from STN (40>24), DUB (17>14) and SNN (4>3) next winter?
Looks like MAD (6>12), NYO (6>9) and BRE (3>4 maybe 5) gaining some a/c but I think HHN (11>8), GRO (10>8), ALC (6>4), PSA (6>5), PIK (5>4), REU (3>2) and AHO (2>1) could lose some.
The rest should be the same.
Looks like MAD (6>12), NYO (6>9) and BRE (3>4 maybe 5) gaining some a/c but I think HHN (11>8), GRO (10>8), ALC (6>4), PSA (6>5), PIK (5>4), REU (3>2) and AHO (2>1) could lose some.
The rest should be the same.
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news from Italy
On September 7th, after the extraordinary meeting of Aeroporti di Puglia, it should become official. One of the two airports, Bari or Brindisi, will be chosen as the next Italian base of Ryanair. At least that's what claims the local news portal there. According to their estimation, the amount of connections between Puglia (Apulia) and the rest of Europe would increase from 12 flights (from Bari and Brindisi at present) to about 26.