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You had better start eating your hat cuz Mol wont let Manchester get the better of him.Not to let the cat out of the bag but Liverpool Long Range loco flight watch this space remember you heard it here first
1) Manchester has sent a signal that they are going to work with their current and future customers without being raped by a certain Irish based airline. Hence no expectation of free use of the airport and a certain level of income is expected from the airlines.
2) Ryanair have walked away from another airport throwing their toys from the pram as they go.
It's a win win. MAN don't have to hack off their current customers, LPL and LBA get some more cheap as chips loco routes and the choice remains with the traveller from where to go. All in all I think MAN have made a good decision for their business, Ryanair are still making pots of cash, however they have dumped on yet another customer, Manchester Airport. Interesting times.
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Me & conti onepass seem to share the same tastes & aversions in dining, in his case it is LPL which I have flown out of quite happily many times (although we did get back one time to find that we had been 'taxed' by handling staff en route) and in my case it is RYR. If they were running the last flight out of Hell I would not get on it. RYR stinks.
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true mate!!! sick of people pulling manchester airport 2 bits, i will only fly from there, i support my local airport... so those who av been fans of ryanair from manchester, let them go, they will be back!!
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We are by J21 M62 Conti so are roughly equidistant from LBA, MAN, LPL & BLK. If arrival is so that we can get on train and be home for a pint I'll use MAN, otherwise is LPL or, failing that, LBA which is a swine to drive to. MAN lost its allure to me when they put the bars airside (I am a smoker so need to get outdoors now & then). MAN could do lots more for itself but that is a different thread. RYR is a sick dog.
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Come now Buster. Surely you can see that MAN & EMA / BOH are entirely different kettles of fish?! The smaller regional airports (no disrespect intended) have grown on the back of the lo-co's. MAN already had a good sized business.
They may all be owned by the same group but ultimately they all have their own business models and should develop in their own ways.
They may all be owned by the same group but ultimately they all have their own business models and should develop in their own ways.
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Bad press
In mail today:-
'Pay us €10 and then you will get your lost purse back,' Ryanair tells distraught girl
www.dailymail.co.ukl
The drip-drip of bad press about how ryanair treats pax must be starting to take its toll. The UK press is getting very hostile and in the UK FR is going ex-growth. Moving flights from one airport to another just messes up lots more pax, who as a result are less likely to book again. Just look at the mess if you booked your flights 6 months ahead, parking etc from manchester to find your flight changed to different times from leeds.
'Pay us €10 and then you will get your lost purse back,' Ryanair tells distraught girl
www.dailymail.co.ukl
The drip-drip of bad press about how ryanair treats pax must be starting to take its toll. The UK press is getting very hostile and in the UK FR is going ex-growth. Moving flights from one airport to another just messes up lots more pax, who as a result are less likely to book again. Just look at the mess if you booked your flights 6 months ahead, parking etc from manchester to find your flight changed to different times from leeds.
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Indeed bad press, but unfortunately that's the state of the media industry today.
That would be the same media which slavishly prints all the cock about Standing Pax...Pound to use the Loos ...extra cash if you are "over" weight and gives the Pikey free publicity by the yard?
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FR routes from central England to Germany
Of course, no need to remind that Ryanair uses Hahn, not Frankfurt.
I don't see the point opening EMA-HHN while we have BHX-HHN over here a few miles down the M42, esp as even here it's just 4x weekly, with a Spanish-based plane. I'd _love_ to see BHX-SXF, but again, will not happen. Note that Germanwings (not so visible in the UK, but a big company in Germany, mostly LH-owned) will start MAN-CGN end of October, taking over from TuiFly, with very useful weekend flight times.
Due to CGN-FRA being a superfast train, while HHN-FRA being a coach, journey times on the ground to Frankfurt are very similar, and CGN is Germany's main budget-airlines hub (much more people in catchment area than HHN, and train station inside airport). Easyjet was running EMA-CGN before, normally packed, but they found Palma more profitable.
LH actually already is at EMA to some extend, running CGN-EMA in a BMI codeshare.
I think it's much more likely FR opens LPL-HHN. This is actually a real lacmus-test for Ryanair's real state: If they replace MAN-HHN and MAN-Weeze with nothing, they made probably no money on those routes at all.
I would be annoyed about a MAN-style retreat from BHX (not likely as it's a base here), as I use HHN which is very close to my parents. But when I see FR asking for 85 GBP return (yes, they do, try a weekend in November) at not-so-great flight times, and BE asking for 95 and LH asking for 110, no obvious reason why to use FR. I'm well preparing myself against any future MOL madness (E.g. another threat to close HHN and blackmailing the government there - charming) by getting very familiar how to get cheap tickets out of LH, BE, Eurostar and the ferries. And sometimes using LHR T5 which you people can please keep believing it's a hellhole, that keeps BA's fares to FRA low ;-)
I don't see the point opening EMA-HHN while we have BHX-HHN over here a few miles down the M42, esp as even here it's just 4x weekly, with a Spanish-based plane. I'd _love_ to see BHX-SXF, but again, will not happen. Note that Germanwings (not so visible in the UK, but a big company in Germany, mostly LH-owned) will start MAN-CGN end of October, taking over from TuiFly, with very useful weekend flight times.
Due to CGN-FRA being a superfast train, while HHN-FRA being a coach, journey times on the ground to Frankfurt are very similar, and CGN is Germany's main budget-airlines hub (much more people in catchment area than HHN, and train station inside airport). Easyjet was running EMA-CGN before, normally packed, but they found Palma more profitable.
LH actually already is at EMA to some extend, running CGN-EMA in a BMI codeshare.
I think it's much more likely FR opens LPL-HHN. This is actually a real lacmus-test for Ryanair's real state: If they replace MAN-HHN and MAN-Weeze with nothing, they made probably no money on those routes at all.
I would be annoyed about a MAN-style retreat from BHX (not likely as it's a base here), as I use HHN which is very close to my parents. But when I see FR asking for 85 GBP return (yes, they do, try a weekend in November) at not-so-great flight times, and BE asking for 95 and LH asking for 110, no obvious reason why to use FR. I'm well preparing myself against any future MOL madness (E.g. another threat to close HHN and blackmailing the government there - charming) by getting very familiar how to get cheap tickets out of LH, BE, Eurostar and the ferries. And sometimes using LHR T5 which you people can please keep believing it's a hellhole, that keeps BA's fares to FRA low ;-)
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That would be the same media which slavishly prints all the cock about Standing Pax...Pound to use the Loos ...extra cash if you are "over" weight and gives the Pikey free publicity by the yard?
Just checking.........
Just checking.........
Ryanair’s primary marketing strategy is to emphasize its widely available low fares and price guarantee. In doing so, Ryanair primarily advertises its services in national and regional newspapers, as well as through controversial and topical advertising, press conferences and publicity stunts.
Ryanair could switch it's Manchester services to Leeds but advertise them as Manchester East........
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from Oct 26th: EMA-LCJ 3 weekly
from Nov 3rd: EMA-RZE 2 weekly
from Nov 4th: EMA-BZG 2 weekly
from Nov 5th: EMA-RAK 2 weekly
from Oct 27th: CIA-WRO 3 weekly
from Nov 3rd: CIA-BTS 3 weekly
from Nov 2nd: NRN-FEZ 3 weekly and NRN-AGA 2 weekly, NRN-TNG to come?
from Nov 4th: MAD-RAK daily, MAD-TNG daily and MAD-FEZ 4 weekly
from Nov 5th: MAD-NDR 3 weekly
from Oct 27th: CRL-AGA 2 weekly
from Nov 4th: ALC-EIN 4 weekly
from Nov 5th: NYO-LGW daily (MRS-LGW will be axed from Oct 1st)
Does FR have a new deal with Maroc (like they said they have with Spanish airports)?
from Nov 3rd: EMA-RZE 2 weekly
from Nov 4th: EMA-BZG 2 weekly
from Nov 5th: EMA-RAK 2 weekly
from Oct 27th: CIA-WRO 3 weekly
from Nov 3rd: CIA-BTS 3 weekly
from Nov 2nd: NRN-FEZ 3 weekly and NRN-AGA 2 weekly, NRN-TNG to come?
from Nov 4th: MAD-RAK daily, MAD-TNG daily and MAD-FEZ 4 weekly
from Nov 5th: MAD-NDR 3 weekly
from Oct 27th: CRL-AGA 2 weekly
from Nov 4th: ALC-EIN 4 weekly
from Nov 5th: NYO-LGW daily (MRS-LGW will be axed from Oct 1st)
Does FR have a new deal with Maroc (like they said they have with Spanish airports)?
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New routes for Edinburgh.
BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | Edinburgh, East and Fife | Ryanair unveils eight new routes
Ryanair said it was increasing its services from Edinburgh to 26, up from 19 on the same period last year.
The company said it was concentrating its efforts on winter sun destinations like Girona (Barcelona), Gran Canaria, Lanzarote and Tenerife.
The airline is also adding city break locations like Brussels, Memmingen (Munich West), Gdansk and Oslo (Torp).
The company said it was concentrating its efforts on winter sun destinations like Girona (Barcelona), Gran Canaria, Lanzarote and Tenerife.
The airline is also adding city break locations like Brussels, Memmingen (Munich West), Gdansk and Oslo (Torp).
BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | Edinburgh, East and Fife | Ryanair unveils eight new routes
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Ryanair claimed the changes would increase annual passenger numbers at Edinburgh Airport to almost two million and sustain 2,000 local jobs.
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If Ryanair was to use the same basis employed when chastising naughty Stansted (comparing Summer and Winter) then the routes from Edinburgh are staying about the same. There's also no details about the routes being dropped. Giona is not exactly a winter sun destination and describing Memmingen as a city break requires a bit of imagination. Still beneath the spin and jobs nonsense the overall news for Edinburgh is relatively good. It will be interesting to see how Easyjet Edinburgh to Munich stands up to the Memmingen route and how much people will pay to fly to the proper airport.