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Old 20th Aug 2009, 14:42
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It's a fast moving world and that story is two months old...keep up...
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Old 20th Aug 2009, 15:28
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Strange, I know. Having said that extra routes does not necessarily mean extra capacity - there was no mention of additional aircraft so it may be that existing routes will see reductions in frequency so meaning no net increase in capacity...it's probably all there in the (very) small print...
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Old 20th Aug 2009, 16:34
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Frequencies of new routes from Edinburgh
EDI-GRO 3xw -2-4-6-
EDI-CRL 3xw -2-4-6-
EDI-GDN 3xw -2-4-6-
EDI-LPA 2xw --3---7
EDI-ACE 2xw 1---5--
EDI-FMM 3xw 1-3--6-
EDI-TRF 3xw --3-5-7
EDI-TFS 2xw -2---6-
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Old 20th Aug 2009, 18:29
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EDI

ASFKAP

I agree as far as I can see there is no EDI expansion just rearranging.

Although the new flights are not bookable the current winter schedule
for the based aircraft (if I have copied it correctly) shows: -

Mon - 7 flights
Tue - 7
Wed - 6
Thu - 6
Fri - 7
Sat -6
Sun -7

Say four based aircraft operating three flights a day each equals
12 (some might do 2 flight). If the frequencies posted earlier are
correct then the schedule will only match summer 2009 at best.

BRE, NRN, a couple of DUB's and NRN are away based aircraft.

Flights not bookable this winter are: -

AOC, BLG, CAG, CCS, HAU, LIG, MRS, PMI, PIS, WRO & ZAD.

Pete

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Old 21st Aug 2009, 12:52
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According to the current schedule it looks like FR are going to base 5 aircrafts at EDI this winter.
They might haven't rearranged the timeteable yet or more routes are to come (ski routes to TRN/GNB for instance and/or increasing of frequencies).
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Old 21st Aug 2009, 17:40
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ryanair flight change

due to ryanair cancelling my flight from manchester to bremen, ive noe had a email saying my flight will depart from liverpool, on different dates to the ones booked. NO CHANCE AM I FLYING FROM LIVERPOOL!!!!!!!!! also i feel sorry for those who av already booked hotels and had there flights changed!!! ITS SCANDULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

also quite a few people saying why dont they take there dublin flight as well!!!! come on manchester get rid of them!!!!!!!!! let a proper airline do the routes.
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Old 21st Aug 2009, 17:50
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Manchester was probably the only route that made them any money.
If a route fails to make any money for Ryanair it's always the airport or governments fault.
I applaud Manchester for telling MOL where to stick it.
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Old 21st Aug 2009, 17:57
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thats right mate manchester told them to stick it. also ryanairhou realy pay out some sort of compensation to these passengers who av had there flight changed from manchester!!!! if we wanted to change a flight time or date with ryanair,, they charge you a admin fee plus differance in fare!!! so why cant ryanair do the same back
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Old 21st Aug 2009, 17:59
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due to ryanair cancelling my flight from manchester to bremen, ive noe had a email saying my flight will depart from liverpool, on different dates to the ones booked. NO CHANCE AM I FLYING FROM LIVERPOOL!!!!!!!!! also i feel sorry for those who av already booked hotels and had there flights changed!!! ITS SCANDULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get a life! Seriously. You probably bought those flights for a few quid first of all. Secondly, you've been given plenty of notice. Simply book yourself on another airline that can support those routes.... Best of luck with that!

Bet I'll see you on Ryanair in the near future anyhow....
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Old 21st Aug 2009, 18:09
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EDI

pikkuprinssi

Yes, the schedule is far complete with 5 required some days but
hardly enough work for 4 at times. I trust some more routes or
drastic re-scheduling.

conti onepass

When they fell out with BHX they moved my flight to EMA and
did not want to refund me when I turned down their kindly offer.

A letter from the AUC and Trading Standards soon changed their
thinking and the money was back in my bank account after a week.

Luckily I had not paid for the hotel and there was no cancellation fee.

Pete
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Old 21st Aug 2009, 18:13
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Flying Shortly

Its after 5pm, shouldnt you and all the other ryanair employess that work in the offices gone home for the weekend. It makes no difference, very clearly FR are at fault, so refund the customer that doesnt want to fly from Liverpool.

I have posed this question before. How many more airports can Ryanair piss off and leave over airport charges before it gets to the stage that they risk serious revenue loss to themselves?

You can only be the bully for so long before you yourself gets kicked down!
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Old 21st Aug 2009, 18:19
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I don't work for Ryanair btw... Just think it's silly getting so worked up. Time enough to make new arrangements. Life's for living, working around obstacles and not for moaning!

As far as I know all affected pax have been offered refunds. Don't like it? Change airline.
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Old 21st Aug 2009, 18:38
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That is a really ridiculous attitude. If you book a service with a provider, you expect that service as stated, i.e. from the airport you expect, to the destination you expect, on the date you expect (regardless of legal smallprint, this is the serive you expect!).

However, what must upset these passengers who have booked flights from Manchester, is that FR charged passengers for a service listed as "confirmed" on reservations. This implies that Ryanair have full intention to fly the route. However, contracts for this period between FR and its supplier (MAN) had not been finalised and FR were selling tickets based on an assumption (yes, certainly no more than an assumption) that MAN would charge the rates FR was willing to pay. A company with more regard for its passengers would have either (a) negotiated with MAN in advance of selling tickets for a time period, or (b) sold tickets based on the assumption that they would have to pay (published) market rates to use airports. Of course, none of this was made clear to passengers, so yes, they have a right to feel upset.

Contrary to all FR defenders, not all passengers pay pennies for flights. Some will have payed decent money. Anyone who had paid for airport parking, train tickets to MAN, airport lounge usage, hotels, etc, are justified to feel let down by FR.

In the past year, I have moved from a position of defending FR as the champion of LCCs, to absolutely detesting its business practices. As a regular traveller, I'm not sure FR can afford to do the same to too many other frequent travellers.
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Old 21st Aug 2009, 19:01
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if you dont work for ryanair how do you know all passengers av either been in formed or offered refunds!!! im really glad that some of us are appalled by ryanairs actions!!! we all need to take action now so manchster gets rid of the dublin flight as well!!! and i did not pay pennines for the flights either!!
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Old 21st Aug 2009, 19:57
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if you dont work for ryanair how do you know all passengers av either been in formed or offered refunds!!! im really glad that some of us are appalled by ryanairs actions!!! we all need to take action now so manchster gets rid of the dublin flight as well!!! and i did not pay pennines for the flights either!! Today 19:38

And if you did not pay pennies well maybe the fact you were able to travel such a route is because a certain percentage of your flight will have paid pennies. It's the business model. I don't mean to be rude if I was but just think some peeps are taking it a bit exteme....
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Old 21st Aug 2009, 20:43
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Presumably EDI like at other stations mainstream carriers will now run a mile and cut services as FR muscle in...GSM, LH, Polish carriers etc...? The FR one trick pony like at STN
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Old 21st Aug 2009, 23:03
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CabinCrewe - STN might not be the best comparison to EDI, since LH very much still serves London - it just happens to be from a different airport in the same metropolitan area.

A better comparison airport which has had a substantial Ryanair service for a significant period of time, is the sole airport for a medium sized urban area, doesn't act as the principal base for an airline with a large number of planes, and can attract inbound tourism might perhaps be Marseille or Porto.

I don't know much about route changes in the last few years at MRS or OPO - if you have any knowledge of this, I'm sure we'd be very interested to hear how you think Edinburgh might look in a few years time.
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Old 22nd Aug 2009, 07:43
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Stansted called Ryanairs bluff. Manchester has followed. The path is now clear for every other UK airport. Stand up to these bullies and they crumble. Good luck with those 737-800's at Leeds with a Cat 1 ILS....


O Leary has a whole load of new aircraft arriving and nowhere to put them - airport owners know this.


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Old 22nd Aug 2009, 08:50
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"Good luck with those 737-800's at Leeds with a Cat 1 ILS...."

Sorry but LBA has Cat 3 on 32 and whilst 14 is currently Cat 1 they are looking to upgrade it to Cat 2/3 as part of the investment Bridgepoint are doing.
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Old 22nd Aug 2009, 10:14
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Its well know at Leeds that the worst vis is with a S/E wind and 14 is CAT one only, 3.3 slope and the max autoland for most types is 3.25% so its unlikely to get CAT3

Like wise a 8-10 knt TWC on 32 CAT3 is very limiting on autoland
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