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They're reducing flights from 136 to 116 per week, but passenger numbers will drop from 1.9 million to 1.2 million
How can a 15% drop in flights produce a 35% drop in passenger numbers? They'd hardly target their most successful flights.
Actually,
20 * 52 = 1,040
700,000 / 1040 = c. 700
Are we supposed to believe that there is 700 people on each of those flights?!?!?
Leaving aside my incredulity, any idea which other routes have gone?
How can a 15% drop in flights produce a 35% drop in passenger numbers? They'd hardly target their most successful flights.
Actually,
20 * 52 = 1,040
700,000 / 1040 = c. 700
Are we supposed to believe that there is 700 people on each of those flights?!?!?
Leaving aside my incredulity, any idea which other routes have gone?
Actually,
20 * 52 = 1,040
700,000 / 1040 = c. 700
20 * 52 = 1,040
700,000 / 1040 = c. 700
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Down from 6 to 4 based aircraft from March 30th with five routes dropped and reduced frequencies on others...
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So another 4 aircraft to allocate, and there are Dublin reductions pencilled in for next week. A nice way to get rid of some underperforming routes etc, I mean SNN was never big enough to handle 6 aircraft, as is shown by the constant reference to it in annual releases as an underperforming base.
The question now is where do these aircraft go? Did I hear in an M Cawley interview that they have 8 to allocate before Summer. Maybe a LGW base to go after EI.
What ever happened to that FCO Talk?
The question now is where do these aircraft go? Did I hear in an M Cawley interview that they have 8 to allocate before Summer. Maybe a LGW base to go after EI.
What ever happened to that FCO Talk?
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Ryanairs decision to reduce their presence at SNN has nothing to do with the 10 € government tax from April onwards.
It has more to do with their only poor base and route policy.
How can any airline based 6 aircraft at an airport where the average fare for 6 months of the year is 10 € - Ryanair quote?
I do not believe that the pre booking for 2009 are significantly down because now 20 € has to be paid.
SNN got into bed with the devil and not the devil gives them the 2 fingers. Hahn was the same but FR's blackmail policy worked here.
FR need to seriously look at where all the reallocated and new aircraft are going to be based.
It has more to do with their only poor base and route policy.
How can any airline based 6 aircraft at an airport where the average fare for 6 months of the year is 10 € - Ryanair quote?
I do not believe that the pre booking for 2009 are significantly down because now 20 € has to be paid.
SNN got into bed with the devil and not the devil gives them the 2 fingers. Hahn was the same but FR's blackmail policy worked here.
FR need to seriously look at where all the reallocated and new aircraft are going to be based.
Does anyone know what has happened to "hand-luggage only" flights and mobile 'phone use onboard?
Barking idea as one place nice for quiet and calm without Tracey or Kevin shouting at their mates where they are has been on a plane.
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Shannon is facing very serious difficulties going forward. It was always recognised that the level of FR activity at SNN was not sustainable. It would probably be more beneficial in the long-term if FR withdrew completley. They will however maintain a presence, and that presence no matter how small will prevent any other carrier from launching routes, knowing that there is the potential as has happened in the past for FR to launch against them, in what are already thin very low yield markets. Serious strategic thinking required to develop a route incentive scheme that gives carriers some sort of comfort to develop new business!
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The 5 routes axed are Berlin, Hahn, Lodz, Luton and Newcastle. The summer only Biarritz service is also not operating this year.
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Promises, Promises !
So, now they have Aicraft available, will they keep their promise and put some into Bournemouth. The whole place is ready and Easyjet are sniffing about !
The catchment for BOH is lucrative, if anyone will spend on travel, it will be the residents of the south coast, do the right routes and you would put a big dent in BAA Southampton.
The catchment for BOH is lucrative, if anyone will spend on travel, it will be the residents of the south coast, do the right routes and you would put a big dent in BAA Southampton.
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Ryanair try to offer the cheapest fares on the market place, could they reduce them further?
Now that less people are putting bags in the hold, could they look at transporting cargo on some of their routes? Obviously some wouldn't work but maybe on some LON and DUB routes?
It would raise costs I am sure but the profits from cargo would be a lot bigger and would surely reduce what the people are paying who are sat above it.
What do we think PPrune?
Now that less people are putting bags in the hold, could they look at transporting cargo on some of their routes? Obviously some wouldn't work but maybe on some LON and DUB routes?
It would raise costs I am sure but the profits from cargo would be a lot bigger and would surely reduce what the people are paying who are sat above it.
What do we think PPrune?
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EZY inherited a cargo business when they took over GB Airways however they promptly shut it down as it doesn't fit the Lo-cost model with tight turnarounds. I doubt if FR will ever contemplate cargo on their aircraft.
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Winter 08/09 capacity
Who remembers FR promising massive capacity cuts at STN and DUB this Winter? We were told that there would be scores of aircraft parked up doing nothing in view of the outrageous high charges blah blah blah ...
I'm sad enough to have wondered what actually happened this Winter. The stats below are all available from sources such as ACARS. In each case I have compared Nov-Jan 08/09 to the period Nov-Jan 07/08:
STN:
14% capacity reductions at STN
In reality, FR movements at STN are down by about 8.8%. It's a fairly savage hack, but nowhere near as severe as EZY's 20% reduction at STN (Nov 08 vs Nov 07) or the 40% reduction by Air Berlin (also Nov 08 vs Nov 07).
And what about DUB?
18% schedule redctions at DUB
The threat doesn't seem to have materialised: FR movements at DUB are actually down by about 2%. Interestingly, EI short haul at DUB seems to be down by about 3.4%.
What's the story at other UK bases?
EDI, BOH and BHX not surprisingly see large increases as they are all new bases.
BHD is up by 17% (increases vs last year on EMA and PIK making up for the reduction on STN)
LTN is up by 3.4%.
PIK is flat.
EMA is down by 1.7%.
LPL is down by 4.3%.
BRS is down by 7.5% (looks like the different mix of routes has led to a reduction in the number of sectors).
I'm sad enough to have wondered what actually happened this Winter. The stats below are all available from sources such as ACARS. In each case I have compared Nov-Jan 08/09 to the period Nov-Jan 07/08:
STN:
14% capacity reductions at STN
In reality, FR movements at STN are down by about 8.8%. It's a fairly savage hack, but nowhere near as severe as EZY's 20% reduction at STN (Nov 08 vs Nov 07) or the 40% reduction by Air Berlin (also Nov 08 vs Nov 07).
And what about DUB?
18% schedule redctions at DUB
The threat doesn't seem to have materialised: FR movements at DUB are actually down by about 2%. Interestingly, EI short haul at DUB seems to be down by about 3.4%.
What's the story at other UK bases?
EDI, BOH and BHX not surprisingly see large increases as they are all new bases.
BHD is up by 17% (increases vs last year on EMA and PIK making up for the reduction on STN)
LTN is up by 3.4%.
PIK is flat.
EMA is down by 1.7%.
LPL is down by 4.3%.
BRS is down by 7.5% (looks like the different mix of routes has led to a reduction in the number of sectors).
I doubt if FR will ever contemplate cargo on their aircraft.
Only comment I remember from them was that they were looked after very well on both sides at what was a really bad time.
No idea if they still repatriate remains.