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More new routes today.
Prestwick has gets Alicante, Mallorca and Ibiza on top of the Canaries, and increased frequencies to Faro and Malaga.
Charleroi gets Stockholm Skavsta back.
Maybe some more in there too...
Prestwick has gets Alicante, Mallorca and Ibiza on top of the Canaries, and increased frequencies to Faro and Malaga.
Charleroi gets Stockholm Skavsta back.
Maybe some more in there too...
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I think EDI may get a lot of old PIK city routes, ie Budapest, Torp etc. These load factors should be higher into the capital, PIK might see an increase in bucket and spade flights.
PIK = outbound tourism
EDI = inbound tourism
Thats just a guess but I reckon when the full timetable gets published in the next month or so we will still see 4 based A/C in EDI, but with a mixture of old PIK routes.
Dont know if that is the case with EDI, as AGP, ALC, PMI, KRK were all operated before by GSM and EZY.
PIK = outbound tourism
EDI = inbound tourism
Thats just a guess but I reckon when the full timetable gets published in the next month or so we will still see 4 based A/C in EDI, but with a mixture of old PIK routes.
Dont know if that is the case with EDI, as AGP, ALC, PMI, KRK were all operated before by GSM and EZY.
Will FR sell what they have in Aer Lingus? It seems clear they don't want a merger, but does that rule out other airlines? Such as Lufthansa - for example...
No real reason to sell stake as already paid for.
They couldn't just start selling a million shares here and there because as a major shareholder all of this has to be disclosed to Stock Exchange and selling all would really have to be to one buyer.
LH has its own problems with its intra European market dropping by 5% plus. I don't see what EI could offer LH that they haven't got already.
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Dos anyone know if it is possible to get a Ryanair timetable that shows in one page all flights from a airport days of the week destinations etc etc .
Rather than the hit and miss system available in the website ?
Rather than the hit and miss system available in the website ?
Dos anyone know if it is possible to get a Ryanair timetable that shows in one page all flights from a airport days of the week destinations etc etc .
Rather than the hit and miss system available in the website ?
Rather than the hit and miss system available in the website ?
Cheap flights: compare prices, find airline tickets - Skyscanner useful as well just put in departure airport / date / then leave To to anywhere and see the results.
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At today's Press Conference held in Liverpool Ryanair announced for the winter:
Bratislava - 3 per week
Arrecife - 2 per week
Las Palmas - 2 per week
Rzeszow - 2 per week
and Faro - 3 per week
Also referred to increased frequencies on Alicante, Belfast City, and retaining Kaunas and others for the winter.
The Canaries announcement has already been posted earlier in the thread
No references to some of the previous information posted (Shannon frequency etc), when questioned the Ryanair representative stated that they are still finalising the winter schedules.
The fact that AENA the Spanish airports authority are prepared to allow no airport charges (dues) is central to the Ryanair strategy
Confirmed 7 aircraft based at LPL for the winter
Bratislava - 3 per week
Arrecife - 2 per week
Las Palmas - 2 per week
Rzeszow - 2 per week
and Faro - 3 per week
Also referred to increased frequencies on Alicante, Belfast City, and retaining Kaunas and others for the winter.
The Canaries announcement has already been posted earlier in the thread
No references to some of the previous information posted (Shannon frequency etc), when questioned the Ryanair representative stated that they are still finalising the winter schedules.
The fact that AENA the Spanish airports authority are prepared to allow no airport charges (dues) is central to the Ryanair strategy
Confirmed 7 aircraft based at LPL for the winter
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The real reason....
Looks like the Irish and U.K. governments' plan to make all their taxpayers stay at home and spend money domestically rather than abroad is working;
With the airlines pulling off routes, the remaining carriers can put up their prices (supply goes down, demand goes up, price goes up);
So punters are less inclined to travel to the sun for a few weeks, and the Spanish don't really want to come here during our dull dark cold wet winter, so more tax revenue (V.A.T. on purchases, excise on alcohol, petrol, etc.) can be collected from Irish/British people staying at home and spending than would be gained by visitors staying and spending for a much shorter term on a narrower range of tax revenue generating streams.
Essentially, the government is using Ryanair's bolshieness to increase tax revenue by plugging one money leak out of the country; it was never about getting €10/Ł10 per punter per flight, it was to precipitate the eventual Ryanair 'throwing all the toys out of the crib' reaction and reduce availability of cheap flights full of spenders to other countries.
With the airlines pulling off routes, the remaining carriers can put up their prices (supply goes down, demand goes up, price goes up);
So punters are less inclined to travel to the sun for a few weeks, and the Spanish don't really want to come here during our dull dark cold wet winter, so more tax revenue (V.A.T. on purchases, excise on alcohol, petrol, etc.) can be collected from Irish/British people staying at home and spending than would be gained by visitors staying and spending for a much shorter term on a narrower range of tax revenue generating streams.
Essentially, the government is using Ryanair's bolshieness to increase tax revenue by plugging one money leak out of the country; it was never about getting €10/Ł10 per punter per flight, it was to precipitate the eventual Ryanair 'throwing all the toys out of the crib' reaction and reduce availability of cheap flights full of spenders to other countries.
Taxpayers aren't staying at home.....
Taxpayers are still travelling, they're just shunning Ryanair.
Taxpayers are still travelling, they're just shunning Ryanair.
How many airlines are showing growth in passenger numbers and profit in Europe ?
As for business fliers !!!!! Well funnily enough BA who relies on business passengers is pretty clear they are not flying.
Its also nice that Ryanair can sell on 2nd hand jets for $30 million plus as already proven.
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It would seem this site is intent on letting you rant
on about Ryanair in your usuall negative manor -
Why is it not okay to challenge peoples notions and
uber-negativety but let them have free rain over
this thread?
MM
Are you the key-holder to this site by any chance!
I think we should be told.
It would seem this site is intent on letting you rant
on about Ryanair in your usuall negative manor -
Why is it not okay to challenge peoples notions and
uber-negativety but let them have free rain over
this thread?
MM
Are you the key-holder to this site by any chance!
I think we should be told.
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mickeyman just chill out and let it go. You're taking this a little personal, a lot of people disagree with you but play the ball and not the man please.
He's not ranting in a negative *manner* he's making a good point in a rather blunt way. Those who disagree with MOL and Ryanair hardly have free *reign* on this thread. Ask racedo, he's always ready to support the company and does it rather well, however much I disagree with him on occasion.
He's not ranting in a negative *manner* he's making a good point in a rather blunt way. Those who disagree with MOL and Ryanair hardly have free *reign* on this thread. Ask racedo, he's always ready to support the company and does it rather well, however much I disagree with him on occasion.
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Some priceless "if we say it they will believe it"-isms in today's Ryanair's state aid press release rant, claiming the reduced level of Irish travel tax which applies to destinations within 300km of Dublin amounts to state aid to Aer Lingus, Aer Arran, Dublin Airport and anyone else they can mention.
The tax is simply based on distance from Dublin, as is the UK tax (different bands depending on the distance from London). Anywhere under 300km is 2 euros, over 300 km is 10 euros. Ryanair themselves avail of the reduced 2 euros tax on both its domestic routes (including their Irish Government-subsidised Dublin to Kerry PSO route) and on all routes between Ireland and anywhere less than 300km from Dublin. So that's Dublin to Cork, Dublin to Kerry, Dublin to Liverpool, Dublin to Manchester, Dublin to Glasgow, Shannon to Manchester, Shannon to Glasgow, Shannon to Liverpool, Cork to Liverpool, Cork to Dublin, Kerry to Dublin and Knock to Liverpool.
So now that we've established that Ryanair think they are in receipt of state aid due to the lower taxes they pay on these routes (plus the direct PSO subsidy they get too), let's see what further words of wisdom Ryanair has on the subject:
“Ryanair believes the tax should be scrapped as it has resulted in the collapse of Irish tourism and unfairly protects domestic travel, but if this misguided Government is going to stick by its failed policy of taxing tourist it should at least ensure that it is applied fairly”.
Stop the lights - is this Ryanair asking for an increase in taxes? Ok then, if the Government are not going to scrap it, then increase it to 10 euros on all the above routes. Cue rant from MOL and more route reductions.
Embarassing.
The tax is simply based on distance from Dublin, as is the UK tax (different bands depending on the distance from London). Anywhere under 300km is 2 euros, over 300 km is 10 euros. Ryanair themselves avail of the reduced 2 euros tax on both its domestic routes (including their Irish Government-subsidised Dublin to Kerry PSO route) and on all routes between Ireland and anywhere less than 300km from Dublin. So that's Dublin to Cork, Dublin to Kerry, Dublin to Liverpool, Dublin to Manchester, Dublin to Glasgow, Shannon to Manchester, Shannon to Glasgow, Shannon to Liverpool, Cork to Liverpool, Cork to Dublin, Kerry to Dublin and Knock to Liverpool.
So now that we've established that Ryanair think they are in receipt of state aid due to the lower taxes they pay on these routes (plus the direct PSO subsidy they get too), let's see what further words of wisdom Ryanair has on the subject:
“Ryanair believes the tax should be scrapped as it has resulted in the collapse of Irish tourism and unfairly protects domestic travel, but if this misguided Government is going to stick by its failed policy of taxing tourist it should at least ensure that it is applied fairly”.
Stop the lights - is this Ryanair asking for an increase in taxes? Ok then, if the Government are not going to scrap it, then increase it to 10 euros on all the above routes. Cue rant from MOL and more route reductions.
Embarassing.
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Yesterday the route map was briefly showing routes to the Canaries from Edinburgh and Bergamo, but theses airports seem to have not been part of the Canaries expansion in the end.
I believe BGY-TFS and BGY-LPA are very good route for Ryanair. From all Italy there are no direct flight to Canary Island only charter flights, and people must take Iberia via MAD with price starting from 300 euro for a returs flights....
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What was ever achieved by negativety - to be allowed
unchallenged to argue with incorrect/misleading personal
bias is dangerous on both sides.I am trying to
conduct an argument/conversation that is not the stuff
of tabloids.That is why some facts need to be written
down as a base for this.
Ryanair carried 60m last year so clearly they are doing
something right or are you not able to agree with that.
MM
What was ever achieved by negativety - to be allowed
unchallenged to argue with incorrect/misleading personal
bias is dangerous on both sides.I am trying to
conduct an argument/conversation that is not the stuff
of tabloids.That is why some facts need to be written
down as a base for this.
Ryanair carried 60m last year so clearly they are doing
something right or are you not able to agree with that.
MM
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I think Racedo and Mickyman is talking quite a lot of sense, Ryanair made 60 million people fly, albeit - they might not be different 60 million people - but 60 million went again and again.
Bottom line, they have got to be doing something right. And they are the only airline in Europe expanding and recruiting new crews. I want to be an Air-Steward, and Ryanair are one of the only airlines looking for new recruits!!!
I have seen more and more business passengers on the Stansted-Prestwick and Stansted-Dublin route.
I think what MOL is saying is that no one is coming to the UK, as it is now the most expensive route. For example, between France, Germany, Italy and the UK - and Spanish tourist would not come to the UK at the prices now charged!
People must accept that Ryanair --love them or hate them-- have revolutionised air travel. And a lot of us, myself included - are grateful that one can fly for such a little price.
Bottom line, they have got to be doing something right. And they are the only airline in Europe expanding and recruiting new crews. I want to be an Air-Steward, and Ryanair are one of the only airlines looking for new recruits!!!
I have seen more and more business passengers on the Stansted-Prestwick and Stansted-Dublin route.
I think what MOL is saying is that no one is coming to the UK, as it is now the most expensive route. For example, between France, Germany, Italy and the UK - and Spanish tourist would not come to the UK at the prices now charged!
People must accept that Ryanair --love them or hate them-- have revolutionised air travel. And a lot of us, myself included - are grateful that one can fly for such a little price.
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I agree and I fly Ryanair on occasion. However they are also bringing the competition down to lowest common denominator level which is destryoing choice for the consumer. Now I know that sounds ironic but with deep pockets and ruthless efficiency, they destroy a lot of other options that people might otherwise choose.
If you really want to work as a trolley dolley for MOL, paying for your own training and uniform then go for it. Have you ever seen Logan's Run?
If you really want to work as a trolley dolley for MOL, paying for your own training and uniform then go for it. Have you ever seen Logan's Run?
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39 new routes from Canary Island and no one of these to Italy, i'm very sad 
I believe BGY-TFS and BGY-LPA are very good route for Ryanair. From all Italy there are no direct flight to Canary Island only charter flights, and people must take Iberia via MAD with price starting from 300 euro for a returs flights....
I believe BGY-TFS and BGY-LPA are very good route for Ryanair. From all Italy there are no direct flight to Canary Island only charter flights, and people must take Iberia via MAD with price starting from 300 euro for a returs flights....
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39 new routes from Canary Island and no one of these to Italy, i'm very sad