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This "stupid" check is needed as the Ryanair boarding procedure is very quick and can be open to error. Cabin crew checking boarding cards is the last chance to check the right person is boarding the right flight. It has reduced the amount of boarding delays system wide.
Memmingen - it was only a matter of time before a move was made there. I would expect a base within 12 to 18 months.
EDI also looks to be growing to a 5th A/C this summer, although not released yet. Obviously a strong seller for FR.
Memmingen - it was only a matter of time before a move was made there. I would expect a base within 12 to 18 months.
EDI also looks to be growing to a 5th A/C this summer, although not released yet. Obviously a strong seller for FR.
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But why check at the gate then? Then the short-ish walk from the gate to the aircraft; which is most cases is a left turn, forward, right turn, forward, then just the walk to the aircraft. Where a queue is forming, and they check the card; again.
I don't mind security, just not pointless security.
And yes it is stupid; hardly much room for error on a near straight line walk?
Nikolai.
I don't mind security, just not pointless security.
And yes it is stupid; hardly much room for error on a near straight line walk?
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This check is done by every airline I can think of. What seems to be your objection to it? It seems to be standard procedure around the world to check your BP at
1) The security area (to prevent unauthorized access to the airside areas)
2) The boarding gate (so boarding staff can identify who has turned up and who has not and to prevent any randomer walking around the ramp)
3) The aircraft door to make sure the right person is on the right aircraft, going to the right place.
4) Headcount - to check the passengers boarded matches the manifest.
I don't think I have ever been on a flight where this sequence of events has not happened and I'm fine with it. Keep your photo ID and PB handy at all times and very little of your precious time will be wasted. FR boards its aircraft so quickly anyway that it should not be an issue!
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1) The security area (to prevent unauthorized access to the airside areas)
2) The boarding gate (so boarding staff can identify who has turned up and who has not and to prevent any randomer walking around the ramp)
3) The aircraft door to make sure the right person is on the right aircraft, going to the right place.
4) Headcount - to check the passengers boarded matches the manifest.
I don't think I have ever been on a flight where this sequence of events has not happened and I'm fine with it. Keep your photo ID and PB handy at all times and very little of your precious time will be wasted. FR boards its aircraft so quickly anyway that it should not be an issue!
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On flights where they use the tunnel (can't think of the word) which connects to the aircraft door, they don't usually check. No reason, walked from the gate down to the plane!
Well if it is standard procedure then that's fine I geuss, just thought it could be simpler!
Nikolai.
Well if it is standard procedure then that's fine I geuss, just thought it could be simpler!
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Following a meeting in Brussels between Transport Commissioner Antonio Tajani and Ryanair's Chief Executive Michael O'Leary, the European Commission have agreed to a series of meetings discussing the development of European aviation, the commission said today. The issues to discuss in a set of technical meetings starting from April 2009 will include "air traffic in Europe, the development of the aviation sector in the internal market and the role of regional airports."
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Hei, Nickyboy, what did you actually comment now and on what basis? Aren't you too fast to draw your own conclusions garnishing them with some too simplified assumptions? What if you tried to deepen your knowledge first?
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In my last flights the checks was not done by NWA, Swiss, KLM, Air France to name but four. Tis a UK and Ireland thing I believe. PARANOIA!!!!!
The objection is that double checking at the end of the AIRBRIDGE ( frnikolai take note....... ) makes the check at 10 seconds earlier superfluous. Again tis only us officious jobsworths and bureaucratic brits that do this I believe.
This check is done by every airline I can think of. What seems to be your objection to it? It seems to be standard procedure around the world to check your BP at
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Well actually for the BPs to be checked as often as possible is very good. Increases security and safety and minimises delays. Ive seen instances where passengers have boarded wrong flights and slipped through the net plenty of times only for the crew to send em back.
Whats wrong with airlines increasing security. If a wrong pax boards a flight its a security concearn! I have seen skippers offload whole flights for this, just like if a pax takes ill on board the surrounding area must be searched heavily.
Just my two cents worth!
Whats wrong with airlines increasing security. If a wrong pax boards a flight its a security concearn! I have seen skippers offload whole flights for this, just like if a pax takes ill on board the surrounding area must be searched heavily.
Just my two cents worth!
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Nikoloai.....
You may complain that checking at the door is stupid but I've seen PAX board the wrong planes all too often. I've seen BMI Baby pax boarding Ryanair, I've seen FlyBE pax boarding a Dash-8 with its engine stripped and Ryanair pax boarding BMI a/c, maybe there wouldn't be so much of a queue either if more people used the backstairs aswell!
You may complain that checking at the door is stupid but I've seen PAX board the wrong planes all too often. I've seen BMI Baby pax boarding Ryanair, I've seen FlyBE pax boarding a Dash-8 with its engine stripped and Ryanair pax boarding BMI a/c, maybe there wouldn't be so much of a queue either if more people used the backstairs aswell!
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any current ryanair drivers who know when they will begin the new routes to the US?
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Ryanair at main airport?
this is a very old question which is funny to see coming back at regular interval
3 years ago, MOL said that Ryanair will have no other chance to enter sonner or later into main airports... we still wait (another stupid things he said in the right line of "we'll never fly to poland" "valencia is a profitable base" and cut it 3 or 4 months later etc etc)
There is currently a natural segmentation of the market. True, there are some marginal routes where they compete head to head with EZY, but these are peanuts - ryanair stays on secondary airport and easyjet on main airport.
I am quite sure both management are happy with that - even if there are both at MAD, even if they will have more competition in many Ryanair strongholds (with easyJet probably coming in BRU and FCO), this is still in line with the natural segementation of the market (BRU or FCO being main airports).
If ryanair comes to main airport, first easyJet is relatively safe in MXP, ORY and GVA. Then what it left: CDG (ryanair will never go to CDG for sure), BSL (why not, but curent routes are difficult) or SXF (a bloody competitive market already) - so at the end, no big risk for easyJet
If they go to BCN, then you have vueling and clickair that will do all they can to save their home market positions = bloodbath.
MOL knows very well (actually, quite sure he doesn't know lol) that if he starts to attack main airports where ezy is strong, then he takes the risk to have easyJet attacking its most profitable airport i.e. Dublin = then it won't be a bloodbath, but one of the biggest fare war ever seen in the history of aviation lol
And I am not sure ryanair will be the winner... Look at what happen currently in Rome or Milan, this is easyJet which is winning market shares. Look also at what happened in LPL: recently easyJet added an extra aircraft whereas ryanair trimmed one...
Ryanair busines model really doesn't fit with main airport in terms of cost base, taxi time, productivity, type of passenger, brain etc
I don't think 1sec that ryanair will start (and even less - be profitable) at BCN - but I obviously can be wrong
3 years ago, MOL said that Ryanair will have no other chance to enter sonner or later into main airports... we still wait (another stupid things he said in the right line of "we'll never fly to poland" "valencia is a profitable base" and cut it 3 or 4 months later etc etc)
There is currently a natural segmentation of the market. True, there are some marginal routes where they compete head to head with EZY, but these are peanuts - ryanair stays on secondary airport and easyjet on main airport.
I am quite sure both management are happy with that - even if there are both at MAD, even if they will have more competition in many Ryanair strongholds (with easyJet probably coming in BRU and FCO), this is still in line with the natural segementation of the market (BRU or FCO being main airports).
If ryanair comes to main airport, first easyJet is relatively safe in MXP, ORY and GVA. Then what it left: CDG (ryanair will never go to CDG for sure), BSL (why not, but curent routes are difficult) or SXF (a bloody competitive market already) - so at the end, no big risk for easyJet
If they go to BCN, then you have vueling and clickair that will do all they can to save their home market positions = bloodbath.
MOL knows very well (actually, quite sure he doesn't know lol) that if he starts to attack main airports where ezy is strong, then he takes the risk to have easyJet attacking its most profitable airport i.e. Dublin = then it won't be a bloodbath, but one of the biggest fare war ever seen in the history of aviation lol
And I am not sure ryanair will be the winner... Look at what happen currently in Rome or Milan, this is easyJet which is winning market shares. Look also at what happened in LPL: recently easyJet added an extra aircraft whereas ryanair trimmed one...
Ryanair busines model really doesn't fit with main airport in terms of cost base, taxi time, productivity, type of passenger, brain etc
I don't think 1sec that ryanair will start (and even less - be profitable) at BCN - but I obviously can be wrong
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btw racedo you continue to copy and paste this article without taking enough distance with it
Since when airports announce the negociations they are running with airlines????
It's always a very very very confidential game, and I very rarely saw in the european aviation history an airport saying that there are great chances than X airline will open soon a base.
Well, why not, never say never, but it looks like very weird to me
Another possible explanation: BCN is ennoyed by clickair/vueling merger and recent reductions in capacities. They asked regularly these airlines to grow and as it didn't happen, their relations deteriorate over the last year. Then, what better arguments to use for BCN owners to make VY move than revealing current negociations with...Ryanair!
Pure supposition, but... who knows?
time will tell
Since when airports announce the negociations they are running with airlines????
It's always a very very very confidential game, and I very rarely saw in the european aviation history an airport saying that there are great chances than X airline will open soon a base.
Well, why not, never say never, but it looks like very weird to me
Another possible explanation: BCN is ennoyed by clickair/vueling merger and recent reductions in capacities. They asked regularly these airlines to grow and as it didn't happen, their relations deteriorate over the last year. Then, what better arguments to use for BCN owners to make VY move than revealing current negociations with...Ryanair!
Pure supposition, but... who knows?
time will tell
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I can not see Easyjet starting any routes into Dublin while both Aer Lingus and Ryanair are so stronge with both having large bases in Dublin.Never mind MOL going on about the 10 euro tax Dublin is still very important to Ryanair's botton line.
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BMI (DUB-LHR) managed to enter the Dublin market and survive, despite going head to head with Aer Lingus and city to city with Ryanair. So maybe easyjet could depending on the destination.
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Does anyone really believe the ryr spin about the Irish 10 euro departure tax?
If a route is that marginal,then should never have been there in the first place.
I think there are much more serious issues afoot here
Not even Homer would swallow that guff Micko
If a route is that marginal,then should never have been there in the first place.
I think there are much more serious issues afoot here
Not even Homer would swallow that guff Micko