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Can't see it,the big investment by GIR (new multi storey car park,airport hotel, totally refurbished check-in/arrivals) are all geared around FR long term commitment and the 6+ aircraft for the airport.
Many (but would guess 75%+) of summer PAX are for the Costa Brava, the resorts of which are 30mins+ away whilst BCN is 90+ mins away.
BCN is over served by UK scheduled ,regional flights but it may be a ploy by MOL to put pressure on GIR and REU!
Many (but would guess 75%+) of summer PAX are for the Costa Brava, the resorts of which are 30mins+ away whilst BCN is 90+ mins away.
BCN is over served by UK scheduled ,regional flights but it may be a ploy by MOL to put pressure on GIR and REU!
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What caught my attention was the fact that the news led with this story and TV3 went to the trouble of sending a reporter to Dub to interview MOL. They also interviewed Montilla seperately about it while he was in Prague. Someone must be pushing the story so it will be interesting to see if it progresses any further.
Triplerotor
Thanks for posting and not a shock as I said in post on previous page.
Airports need airlines who will grow passenger numbers and you will get that with Ryanair at the moment as everyone else is cutting back. Now is the time to grab the slots and build the routes because when the rebound comes those trying to catch up may find themselves already out of the market.
Fortune favours the brave.
Thanks for posting and not a shock as I said in post on previous page.
Airports need airlines who will grow passenger numbers and you will get that with Ryanair at the moment as everyone else is cutting back. Now is the time to grab the slots and build the routes because when the rebound comes those trying to catch up may find themselves already out of the market.
Fortune favours the brave.
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O'Leary said that opening a base in BCN would not affect flights from GRO or REU.
Well, you can believe this if you wish, you can also believe that this is just a way for RYR to try and get a better deal from GRO/REU which will indeed happen ,after all the money that has been spent there ,they will do anything to keep RYR.
However, the main problem here in that argument is that a much higher percentage of RYR pax to GRO (don't really know for REU it would not be logical to fly there unless you were heading to Sitges or the S of Barcelona) are going to Barcelona rather than to the beach. In Summer (Jun- Sep) it is probably 50% for each. Oct-May it is at least 75% ,maybe more, to Barcelona.
If you as a passenger are given the choice, fly to your destination direct, or fly to another airport 90km (1hr/25e return on a bus) which will you choose ?
Regardless of O'Leary's assurances, the client will decide the issue, and as bookings for GRO reduce ,flights will be withdrawn/transfered to BCN.
I don't see any other outcome.
This is going to leave the Catalan politicians who authorised the massive investment in Terminal/Parking/Radar/Cat3ILS etc etc , looking very silly when the current contract with Ryanair runs out, and they go back to having the half a million passengers a year from Jun-Sep that they had prior to RYR pushing that figure up to 5.5million.
Well, you can believe this if you wish, you can also believe that this is just a way for RYR to try and get a better deal from GRO/REU which will indeed happen ,after all the money that has been spent there ,they will do anything to keep RYR.
However, the main problem here in that argument is that a much higher percentage of RYR pax to GRO (don't really know for REU it would not be logical to fly there unless you were heading to Sitges or the S of Barcelona) are going to Barcelona rather than to the beach. In Summer (Jun- Sep) it is probably 50% for each. Oct-May it is at least 75% ,maybe more, to Barcelona.
If you as a passenger are given the choice, fly to your destination direct, or fly to another airport 90km (1hr/25e return on a bus) which will you choose ?
Regardless of O'Leary's assurances, the client will decide the issue, and as bookings for GRO reduce ,flights will be withdrawn/transfered to BCN.
I don't see any other outcome.
This is going to leave the Catalan politicians who authorised the massive investment in Terminal/Parking/Radar/Cat3ILS etc etc , looking very silly when the current contract with Ryanair runs out, and they go back to having the half a million passengers a year from Jun-Sep that they had prior to RYR pushing that figure up to 5.5million.
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That is broadly speaking true, however, the wonderful deal Ryanair has done in Girona is less to do with AENA and more to do with Catalan pride pushing GRO as "their" Catalan airport , as opposed to that "Spanish /AENA" administered one in BCN. Hence Ryanair now have a Catalan tape for the safety demo on the PA & for some time now "Girona" stickers plastered all along the side of a few aircraft.
I believe the deal they did in GRO was very "favourable" and indeed it may be renewed & continue. Simple passenger preference would tend to suggest otherwise, however there are indeed other "factors" (read cash) at play here.
I believe the deal they did in GRO was very "favourable" and indeed it may be renewed & continue. Simple passenger preference would tend to suggest otherwise, however there are indeed other "factors" (read cash) at play here.
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Confirmed: Charging for toilets PR stunt, says Ryanair boss - The Irish Times - Sat, Mar 07, 2009
It was just a PR stunt! Well, next time I'm on a Ryanair flight; I am going to use the toilet just for the sake of it - and it is free!!!
It would be great if Ryanair started flying to BCN, but I think they (as said) will use it to lower Girona and Reus prices. Still, it would compete head-on with EZY, BA, IB, etc...
Does anyone know if internet will come to RYR flights? Now phone calls, WiFi would be excellent.
Nikolai.
It was just a PR stunt! Well, next time I'm on a Ryanair flight; I am going to use the toilet just for the sake of it - and it is free!!!
It would be great if Ryanair started flying to BCN, but I think they (as said) will use it to lower Girona and Reus prices. Still, it would compete head-on with EZY, BA, IB, etc...
Does anyone know if internet will come to RYR flights? Now phone calls, WiFi would be excellent.
Nikolai.
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Nothing has been mentioned, but it can't be that difficult technically (can it ? ) & if even half reasonably priced I could imagine it being much more popular & cheaper than . . . "YEAH MATE I'M ON THE PLANE, YEAH ON THE PLANE ETC ETC ETC " 
both with participants & those doomed to sit next to them.
both with participants & those doomed to sit next to them.
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Mobiles on board
Err Emirates and Qantas already offer this GSM on board service, almost a year now. Ryanair is just catching up. BA will also offer on their LCY A318 services to New York.
Interesting that no-one seems to mind phones on EK but on Ryanair its a big deal.
Internet requires much more bandwidth, is very expensive and technically much more complex with the Satellite coverage.
FF
Interesting that no-one seems to mind phones on EK but on Ryanair its a big deal.
Internet requires much more bandwidth, is very expensive and technically much more complex with the Satellite coverage.
FF
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I was wondering that, but then that's the same thing with BA getting praise for the BA038 disaster; but FR not getting anything after Ciampino?!?!
I hope internet will come eventually!
Nikolai.
I hope internet will come eventually!
Nikolai.
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Grazie mille Cesare! Ti trovo dapertutto. 
and other new route: REU - NRN.
CAG-VLC: from 30th April: Tu,Th,Sa
CAG-BSL: from 29th April: We,Su
REU-NRN: from 4th June: Tu,Th,Sa
and other new route: REU - NRN.
CAG-VLC: from 30th April: Tu,Th,Sa
CAG-BSL: from 29th April: We,Su
REU-NRN: from 4th June: Tu,Th,Sa
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I see it reported that Jim Callaghan, Head of Legal Affairs at FR is leaving, announced the day after BB decided to leave and not long after their finance man joined Aer Lingus. One would suspect all might not be well if so many senior executives are going, or is this just part of the downsizing so common in our industry at the minute.
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Do not forget Benny Berger, the route development boss who made it public last Thursday (leaving to India?).
Sean Coyle... well, it's an old story already. But now two more key persons did announce the termination of their jobs. Benny Berger made it public on Thusday, Jim Callaghan handed the notice on Friday.
Insiders: do you have any idea why so many executives left/ will leave Ryanair in a short period of time?
I wasn't a devotee of Mr. Berger for his reluctance to develop the Finnish routes, but he did the extraordinary job for FR making good deals with tens if not hundreds of airports all over Europe. And who will handle the legal affairs as well as Jim Callaghan did so far?
Sean Coyle... well, it's an old story already. But now two more key persons did announce the termination of their jobs. Benny Berger made it public on Thusday, Jim Callaghan handed the notice on Friday.
Insiders: do you have any idea why so many executives left/ will leave Ryanair in a short period of time?
I wasn't a devotee of Mr. Berger for his reluctance to develop the Finnish routes, but he did the extraordinary job for FR making good deals with tens if not hundreds of airports all over Europe. And who will handle the legal affairs as well as Jim Callaghan did so far?
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route development
With all the routes cut and no money around to bride airlines to start new routes the job of route development must have been getting very hard. Why would a city pay to get a ryanair route when it will get dumped as soon as you stop paying startup costs.
Top execs have taken a good wage and are getting out before trouble. They will know how bad income is and how they are running out of places to put planes.
Top execs have taken a good wage and are getting out before trouble. They will know how bad income is and how they are running out of places to put planes.
With all the routes cut and no money around to bride airlines to start new routes the job of route development must have been getting very hard.
CPH and BCN are two of the recent ones.
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Fuuny that when Airports are actually being quite open in advertising the new routes they want developed