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Old 10th Mar 2009, 11:50
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I'm afraid this business model of Sale and Leaseback is pretty much standard across airlines plus many other businesses be it Pubs, Retailers, Train companies.
You are correct however no other airline has made it part of its business model.
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 12:38
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Surprised by the Ryanair flight timing once more.
With the addition of the NRN-REU route, a day trip to Barcelona would be possible, via NRN-REU-(Barcelona)-GRO-NRN or the other way around. But both flights leave at more or less the same time, I suppose that they loose out some potential traffic this way.
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 13:40
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If living somewhere in the Netherlands not that close to the border (or living in Dusseldorf) and travelling to Barcelona, a route like NRN-REU sounds, relatively speaking, rather like middle-of-nowhere to middle-of-nowhere
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 13:55
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Timewise, after Eindhoven the closest airport to me is Weeze and it's not far away. Girona or Reus are not thát far from Barcelona either. If I can get there for one cent, the 30 euros or so for transport to the city and thus more or less the only costs involved are not really high. Okay, Amsterdam-Barcelona instead of Weeze-Girona would save me maybe an hour each way, but that's not a lot of time, is it?

But I always count all the transport costs involved and usually during the summer, an airline like Lufthansa is cheaper and better. Most of my Ryanair flight are purely flown by me because they are so cheap that it's more expensive to stay home. The average ticket price I've paid with Ryanair must be somewhere well below 10 euros all-in.
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 14:03
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Maybe you can fly for 1 cent on a Tuesday in mid January... but Ryanair need to get an average fare of about 30 euros each way for this to be reasonably profitable. The people who pay 10 euros for a ticket are not the customers Ryanair want to encourage too much !

Suppose the round-trip costs 60 or 70 euros, with an extra 30 euros for the bus - would you still go for the day given all the travelling time to/from the airport ?
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 14:19
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Check In Desks to be closed

Ryanair to cease airport check-in from October - The Irish Times - Tue, Mar 10, 2009
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 14:23
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Can someone clarify that those who don't have a printer at home can pick up their boarding pass at the airport?
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 14:31
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Skipness - perhaps print the boarding card while at work ? Go to an Internet cafe ? Alternatively, your local public library will usually offer free Internet access with the facility to print a few pages.

Failing that, you can buy on the web a brand new laser printer for about 40 pounds, or a new inket for 30 pounds. If you don't want to spend 40 pounds, go look at Ebay...
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 14:53
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@davidjohnson6: No I wouldn't go for a day. But I'm sure they could attract a businessman(small company and the boss feels the travel expenses in his own pocket) from Weeze that needs to go to Barcelona for let's say 3 workdays.
Even if it does provide only a few extra passengers per flight there's no reason not to do it.

As for the Web check-in only, printing at home is no problem, but if you go away for longer then 2 weeks you will have the hassle to find a printer somewhere abroad. Might be easier not to fly Ryanair then.
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 15:14
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Jippie - I agree that those going away for more than 2 weeks will need to find a printer. However, in most towns in Europe it is usually pretty easy to find an Internet cafe or public library, particularly in areas that get plenty of tourists. Do remember, that Ryanair doesn't fly to anywhere *that* remote in Europe.

Alternatively, if one is staying in a small village for 2 weeks on an annual summer holiday, it is quite likely that the hotel or campsite will provide a few PCs for the guests to use for a small fee. If you're really desperate, ask at reception if you can borrow their PC for a few mins to print a boarding card.

I would imagine that most people who can afford to fly around Europe will not want to lose access to email for 2+ weeks anyway.

Yes, there will be a small number of people for whom finding a printer might be very difficult, but the saving of no check-in desks should more than outweigh the loss of a small number of revenue sales
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 15:20
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Of course I can misuse the office printer for personal use but what a pain in the arse when abroad to have to worry about finding a bloody printer. Besides there are a LOT of people who will think have home printer and can't be arsed booking with them as a result.
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 15:43
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Hidden in the small print is the telling fact that there will be a €5/£5 web checkin fee from May apparently for all passengers... yet another unavoidable charge that has been separated from the headline fare. When is this manure going to stop? The price quoted should be the price paid.
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 15:45
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"Except promotional fares"
Probably it will boost their revenue a bit. Well, it's always wise to look at the final price figure.
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 16:34
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As far as I can gather...and I might be wrong as this is all brand new to everyone in and surrounding the company - this £5/€5 charge is for fast baggage drop customers (I think!)

Airport Kiosks at bases may be able to give you your boarding pass...but as yet still this might be incorrect. (as noone is really sure what is happening!!)
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 19:04
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Could someone clued into such things advise me why it's even necessary to check in for a flight with no baggage? You've bought the ticket, and Ryanair swear they don't overbook, so why can't you enter passport details at the time of purchase and get your boarding card at that time?

Just curious of course...
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 19:13
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I agree. There should be no reason why Ryanair can't extend online check-in beyond 14 days. With easyJet it's 60 days (I think) so why not at the time of booking?
Online check-in fee??? Surely this would not constitute an avoidable extra and would mean the end of 1 pence/cent fares. Am I missing something here?
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 20:01
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No.. Thats it Seat62k.

I think it's ridiculous. If they will be closing check-in desks to SAVE money, why begin to charge for online check-in now that they will end, and did not charged before while they were spending money with the check-in desks? If anything, it should be free now that it will be not avoidable to pay to check-in.

I will certainly check other airlines more often and check their total prices, as with all the fees Ryanair create, the final price may be almost the same, and others may be more convinient as well.
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 21:05
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Could someone clued into such things advise me why it's even necessary to check in for a flight with no baggage? You've bought the ticket, and Ryanair swear they don't overbook, so why can't you enter passport details at the time of purchase and get your boarding card at that time?

Just curious of course...
Because the airline needs to know how many passengers will be on the flight and they need to have the names of the passengers.
With roughly 10 percent no-shows (passenger buys cheap ticket and does not fly) you would never know if you have got all passengers on board!
And I can tell you - it´s trouble every day to sort out missing web-check-in passengers.
If they allow you to check in months in advance the number of missing web-check-ins would explode, which in turn makes it even more difficult to get the final figures in the loadsheet!
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 21:24
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Because the airline needs to know how many passengers will be on the flight and they need to have the names of the passengers. With roughly 10 percent no-shows (passenger buys cheap ticket and does not fly) you would never know if you have got all passengers on board! And I can tell you - it´s trouble every day to sort out missing web-check-in passengers.
Again, maybe I'm missing something obvious - but is there any reason why the computer system that identifies the barcode on the boarding pass at airport security couldn't be tied into this? I'd have thought this would be by far the easiest way to see who has actually turned up for the flight. Just wondering...
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Old 10th Mar 2009, 21:59
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Well they have that nice system at Dublin, but most Ryanairports don't have it.
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