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Firstly, RYANAIR are now closing check-in desks. They will be replaced with kiosks and bag drops. Which has been set now to lower the price of baggage, as you can check-in online. Plus drop you're bag off! That would save £8.50 per bag. Which could be used for other things. This story is being covered by the Daily Telegraph.
Secondly, this on-air phone system is going to be profitable. No one will be making a call at £1 a minute. And lasting 30 minutes. But I myself would use it just for a text or a very quick call to my children. No more than 1 minute. Now, if 100 people do this = £100 profit per flight.
Just my view!
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Secondly, this on-air phone system is going to be profitable. No one will be making a call at £1 a minute. And lasting 30 minutes. But I myself would use it just for a text or a very quick call to my children. No more than 1 minute. Now, if 100 people do this = £100 profit per flight.
Just my view!
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In flight mobile
Many flights will have a scattering of people whose phone bill is paid by their employer. Surely these people will use the service, not giving two hoots about the cost 
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Hope you don't mind if I copy my posting from another site here:-
The arrogance and lies of MOL on TV this morning.
"I am inundated by customers pleading with me to allow mobiles on Ryanair-my in tray is full of their letters"
Bulls..t.
A recent survey gave a massive 80% NO to mobile use on flights.
It is GREED and nothing else.
I will avoid them at all costs and the only time I will be dragged onto the plane is when there is no alternative.
Mind you - I doubt you will be able to hear them talking, what with the announcements from the FA's flogging stratchcards and the hairy ar...d bloke in a vest next to you bellowing at his sink estate brats to sit down and eat their burger.
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The arrogance and lies of MOL on TV this morning.
"I am inundated by customers pleading with me to allow mobiles on Ryanair-my in tray is full of their letters"
Bulls..t.
A recent survey gave a massive 80% NO to mobile use on flights.
It is GREED and nothing else.
I will avoid them at all costs and the only time I will be dragged onto the plane is when there is no alternative.
Mind you - I doubt you will be able to hear them talking, what with the announcements from the FA's flogging stratchcards and the hairy ar...d bloke in a vest next to you bellowing at his sink estate brats to sit down and eat their burger.
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There is always an alternative 
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Sounds like you may need FR more than they need you.
People like you makes me sick
, please dont slag the Airline off
then use them to get to your destination.
Maybe we will see you getting dragged of the plane rather than being
dragged on it while you shout and kick about people making calls.
You have to remember Ryanair is a business and any way of making money
has to be good for the company.
.Sounds like you may need FR more than they need you.
People like you makes me sick
, please dont slag the Airline offthen use them to get to your destination.
Maybe we will see you getting dragged of the plane rather than being
dragged on it while you shout and kick about people making calls.
You have to remember Ryanair is a business and any way of making money
has to be good for the company.
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You do have a point, not slagging them off and I have no problem with their business plan, it is the deceit of MOL that really gets up my nose.
"My customers are wanting this"
Bo...cks-80% say NO.
With FR you get what you pay for (well you don't really- a £7.99 headline fare each way turns out at £102.20 if you have luggage,airport check in and don't have an electron card)
But I would pay £50 more to sit in an aircraft with no in flight phones,prearranged seating,no scratch cards and affordable F&B .
I chose mobile free areas on trains - showing my age, when I was on the road I knew where the phone boxes were and had change in my pocket!
However,if you follow his rules,check in on time ,no overweight luggage,stuff your sandwich /newspapers in your cabin luggage- it can work very well BUT I do not want mobiles on my flight so Dublin is off my list with FR.
that really gets up my nose."My customers are wanting this"
Bo...cks-80% say NO.
With FR you get what you pay for (well you don't really- a £7.99 headline fare each way turns out at £102.20 if you have luggage,airport check in and don't have an electron card)
But I would pay £50 more to sit in an aircraft with no in flight phones,prearranged seating,no scratch cards and affordable F&B .
I chose mobile free areas on trains - showing my age, when I was on the road I knew where the phone boxes were and had change in my pocket!
However,if you follow his rules,check in on time ,no overweight luggage,stuff your sandwich /newspapers in your cabin luggage- it can work very well BUT I do not want mobiles on my flight so Dublin is off my list with FR.
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Does it really make a difference to a flight if someone is on the phone? After all YOU don't own the plane? And if you sit next to people who occupy the other two seats who know each other they will be talking already?
Nikolai.
Nikolai.
ssflyer i suggest you are quite easily balanced having a chip on both shoulders 
You dont like RYR and more particularly MOL thats fine but why then did you feel it necessary to come on here and rant. For every person that doesn't want a phone you would probably find there are other people that do want it. As for affordable food and beverage I have never ever seen a reasonable price at 35000 ft... I wonder why that is?
As for you assertion of 7.50 turning into over a 100 pounds I think unless you are carrying an elephant you wouldn't be paying that. But hey lets all bash RYR
I dont like Branson so should I go and rant and rave on another forum?
PS I take it you wont be flying BMI, Emirates or a whole host of other airlines then seeing as they are also looking into adding this feature? You might want to see if you can catch a train to any where you want to go!
You dont like RYR and more particularly MOL thats fine but why then did you feel it necessary to come on here and rant. For every person that doesn't want a phone you would probably find there are other people that do want it. As for affordable food and beverage I have never ever seen a reasonable price at 35000 ft... I wonder why that is?
As for you assertion of 7.50 turning into over a 100 pounds I think unless you are carrying an elephant you wouldn't be paying that. But hey lets all bash RYR
I dont like Branson so should I go and rant and rave on another forum?
PS I take it you wont be flying BMI, Emirates or a whole host of other airlines then seeing as they are also looking into adding this feature? You might want to see if you can catch a train to any where you want to go!
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Only time will tell, if 80% of pax dont want it then maybe it wont be that much of a problem in the air !
However in some cases some pax may find it a good thing, there is a lot of
reasons for people traveling.
I for one would have found it very reassuring last year when traveling STN-NCL with EZY, IT was 0345 on the dot when I got a call from my Dad
telling me my mum had been rushed into hospital and was going down for a 6 hr operation I was TOLD that I should get to Newcastle asap.
I would have payed £100 per min to be able to be on the phone to my dad for the whole flight it was the worst day of my life, me in Essex my Dad on his own in Newcastle [two hrs from home] and my Mum fighting for her life.
So you see it might not be what you want but someone else my need the service.
However in some cases some pax may find it a good thing, there is a lot of
reasons for people traveling.
I for one would have found it very reassuring last year when traveling STN-NCL with EZY, IT was 0345 on the dot when I got a call from my Dad
telling me my mum had been rushed into hospital and was going down for a 6 hr operation I was TOLD that I should get to Newcastle asap.
I would have payed £100 per min to be able to be on the phone to my dad for the whole flight it was the worst day of my life, me in Essex my Dad on his own in Newcastle [two hrs from home] and my Mum fighting for her life.
So you see it might not be what you want but someone else my need the service.
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daz-very good point. Text I can live with and it would have worked for you.
rhodes-chips and elephants and rants.
Please do not see this as a but I do fly BMI and Emirates (and Gulf/Thai/Monarch/flybe/BA/Virgin/Turkish) and have posted frequent detailed reports on their flights,all of them objective and reasoned
It is my very hard earned money that is spent on flying and I have no axe to grind with FR and its business plan-it is just the honesty of MOL saying "this is to meet customer demand".
If he said "The money we make from these calls will keep us a low fares airline" at least,for once,he would have been honest and transparent.
I still say NO TO MOBILES
rhodes-chips and elephants and rants.
Please do not see this as a
but I do fly BMI and Emirates (and Gulf/Thai/Monarch/flybe/BA/Virgin/Turkish) and have posted frequent detailed reports on their flights,all of them objective and reasonedIt is my very hard earned money that is spent on flying and I have no axe to grind with FR and its business plan-it is just the honesty of MOL saying "this is to meet customer demand".
If he said "The money we make from these calls will keep us a low fares airline" at least,for once,he would have been honest and transparent.
I still say NO TO MOBILES
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The figures I heard today were £3 per minute for calls and 40p per text.
Which is outrageous - it should be £10 per minute for calls at the very least.
I only fly with real airlines, not with the awful locos. When business users of my regular airline were asked last year, they resoundingly rejected the idea of mobile phones being allowed in-flight.
Thank god!!
Which is outrageous - it should be £10 per minute for calls at the very least.
I only fly with real airlines, not with the awful locos. When business users of my regular airline were asked last year, they resoundingly rejected the idea of mobile phones being allowed in-flight.
Thank god!!
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Well it won't be long before other airlines start to implement this idea - and if you don't like it; fly with someone else.
Just don't moan about the aging Airbus A320, the staff that are rude, the disgusting "Tuna Tika Marsarla" sandwich and tiny pepsi. Or the fact the flight has a €100 surcharge for fuel, 5 hour delay. And the worst part is - you could of flown with RYR or EZY!!!
60 million people can't be mobilephonephobics? Plus, an extra 7 million people are expected to choose RYR.
For the record, I am talking about BA above. They had this A320 from 1988!!!
Nikolai.
Just don't moan about the aging Airbus A320, the staff that are rude, the disgusting "Tuna Tika Marsarla" sandwich and tiny pepsi. Or the fact the flight has a €100 surcharge for fuel, 5 hour delay. And the worst part is - you could of flown with RYR or EZY!!!
60 million people can't be mobilephonephobics? Plus, an extra 7 million people are expected to choose RYR.
For the record, I am talking about BA above. They had this A320 from 1988!!!
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I flew in a nice BA A320 last month and it was in good shape for a 20 year old aircraft. It also most certainly wasn't booked with a £100 fuel surcharge.....
Anyway good stories and facts don't mix so back to the fantasy!
Now THAT's real fantasy.
Anyway good stories and facts don't mix so back to the fantasy!
Plus, an extra 7 million people are expected to choose RYR
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£60 per person surcharge, that's fact.
Add two little children - and mine goes up to £100.
Fact again, average age for aircraft on BA is 15 years old. Ryanair has 2 years average.
BA - well over 90% down on profit...
No, 60 million people choose to fly with Ryanair in 2008. The predictions was 58 million.
The prediction is 67 million, but that will almost certainly rise to 70 million.
London to Barcelona (BA) - £250
London to Barcelona (RYR) - £50 (total, inc 1 bag) add €10 for transfer from Girona.
No surprise BA will be joining the rest... XL, Futura, etc...
Add two little children - and mine goes up to £100.
Fact again, average age for aircraft on BA is 15 years old. Ryanair has 2 years average.
BA - well over 90% down on profit...
No, 60 million people choose to fly with Ryanair in 2008. The predictions was 58 million.
The prediction is 67 million, but that will almost certainly rise to 70 million.
London to Barcelona (BA) - £250
London to Barcelona (RYR) - £50 (total, inc 1 bag) add €10 for transfer from Girona.
No surprise BA will be joining the rest... XL, Futura, etc...
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Nikolai we know how it works, be selective on the dates all you like I have found Ryanair to have become increasingly expensive with all the new charges for things that BA sensibly absorb as part of my ticket.
BA aren't going bust any time soon and the reasons that Ryanair are about to head into the brown stuff have been discussed a lot on here. DUB, SNN, LPL all slashed, only real growth is in airports with new deals, come the end of the honeynmoon period Ryanair bully them with an ultimatum.
Are you saying that you wouldn't fly on a 20 year old BA B747-400? Or Cathay? That's just plain silly. These airlines have strong maintenance operations to safely support older aircraft. Anyhoo BA and Ryanair aren't really competitors, different markets, different business models, different airlines.
I'm guessing that you're a Ryanair trolley dolley mon ami?
BA aren't going bust any time soon and the reasons that Ryanair are about to head into the brown stuff have been discussed a lot on here. DUB, SNN, LPL all slashed, only real growth is in airports with new deals, come the end of the honeynmoon period Ryanair bully them with an ultimatum.
Are you saying that you wouldn't fly on a 20 year old BA B747-400? Or Cathay? That's just plain silly. These airlines have strong maintenance operations to safely support older aircraft. Anyhoo BA and Ryanair aren't really competitors, different markets, different business models, different airlines.
I'm guessing that you're a Ryanair trolley dolley mon ami?
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One day all the Ryanair haters will just get the message.
If you dont like it then go by a.n-other.
Your continued moaning about the airline just show you all
in a pathetic and silly light.
Its not even entertaining anymore.
You all must have a lot of free time to waste on this forum
with your criticisms.Did you all miss a step on the evolutionary
road?
MM
If you dont like it then go by a.n-other.
Your continued moaning about the airline just show you all
in a pathetic and silly light.
Its not even entertaining anymore.
You all must have a lot of free time to waste on this forum
with your criticisms.Did you all miss a step on the evolutionary
road?
MM
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I don't hate Ryanair, I use them a lot on STN-PIK. I don't love BA and I use them even more.
However the blinkered and one sided views are not helpful, there have been some informative supportive and critical posts on here and that's always good.
However the blinkered and one sided views are not helpful, there have been some informative supportive and critical posts on here and that's always good.
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Skipness
Just remember that Ryanair is the biggest low-cost
operator in Europe - not by default.
The 'British desease' that you propigate in your posts
(along with others) reflects badly on your contributions.
It would be theraputic for you to post something positive
sometime - along the lines of :
'Ryanair charged me so much for this journey and added on
this amount,but you know what, the trip aboard a modern jet
that I took, was still a snip!'
If you use them alot then surely you have had good experiences
with them - but have failed to mention them on this forum - why?
I have never travelled with any airline if the fare that I chose
was a rip-off,because I wouldnt choose it!!
MM
Just remember that Ryanair is the biggest low-cost
operator in Europe - not by default.
The 'British desease' that you propigate in your posts
(along with others) reflects badly on your contributions.
It would be theraputic for you to post something positive
sometime - along the lines of :
'Ryanair charged me so much for this journey and added on
this amount,but you know what, the trip aboard a modern jet
that I took, was still a snip!'
If you use them alot then surely you have had good experiences
with them - but have failed to mention them on this forum - why?
I have never travelled with any airline if the fare that I chose
was a rip-off,because I wouldnt choose it!!
MM
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I am afraid I do not speak French (4 languages - just not French) nor do I work as a trolley-dolly.
I think you should just accept that Ryanair is beating the hell out of BA. One seat in every row on a BA flight is empty!!! THAT IS FACT FROM THE TIMES.
Ryanair flew 60 million last year THAT IS FACT
How many did BA fly?!?!?!
Ryanair are going to be around forever, and the routes that have been cut - well who in their right mind would go on holiday in the summer to Liverpool? By cutting one route - another takes it's place.
BA are going to start charging for extras, just too survive. You are only allowed one bag free to check in with BA on Euro flights, and soon enough the charges will rise.
Just so you can take your cake and eat it... look at this:
I just booked this:
Ryanair: London Stansted to Faro Algarve, 1 adult 2 children:
Outbound: 01/08/09 STN-FAO
Inbound: 14/08/09 FAO-STN
Total: 526.68
1 bag: £28.50
American Express Black Credit Card Fee: £28.50
Total: 583.68
British Airways: London Gatwick to Faro Algarve, 1 adult 2 children
Outbound: 01/08/09 LGW-FAO
Inbound: 14/08/09 FAO-LGW
Total: 702.68
NOT INCLUDING CREDIT CARD CHARGES.
Now tell me that British Airways is going to beat Ryanair. Myself, my two kids - are on that flight.
It will take me 45 minutes on the Stansted Express and I have saved a lot of money.
And that is for the summer on a popular route.
Very Best Wishes,
Nikolai.
P.S
The only time I use BA is to Moscow.
I think you should just accept that Ryanair is beating the hell out of BA. One seat in every row on a BA flight is empty!!! THAT IS FACT FROM THE TIMES.
Ryanair flew 60 million last year THAT IS FACT
How many did BA fly?!?!?!
Ryanair are going to be around forever, and the routes that have been cut - well who in their right mind would go on holiday in the summer to Liverpool? By cutting one route - another takes it's place.
BA are going to start charging for extras, just too survive. You are only allowed one bag free to check in with BA on Euro flights, and soon enough the charges will rise.
Just so you can take your cake and eat it... look at this:
I just booked this:
Ryanair: London Stansted to Faro Algarve, 1 adult 2 children:
Outbound: 01/08/09 STN-FAO
Inbound: 14/08/09 FAO-STN
Total: 526.68
1 bag: £28.50
American Express Black Credit Card Fee: £28.50
Total: 583.68
British Airways: London Gatwick to Faro Algarve, 1 adult 2 children
Outbound: 01/08/09 LGW-FAO
Inbound: 14/08/09 FAO-LGW
Total: 702.68
NOT INCLUDING CREDIT CARD CHARGES.
Now tell me that British Airways is going to beat Ryanair. Myself, my two kids - are on that flight.
It will take me 45 minutes on the Stansted Express and I have saved a lot of money.
And that is for the summer on a popular route.
Very Best Wishes,
Nikolai.
P.S
The only time I use BA is to Moscow.
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For the record I have never been late with Ryanair and the aircraft are fine. However I think the service is poor, the staff rude and the only flight where someone struggled to deliver a safety demo due to passengers laughter was Ryanair. You get what you pay for.
As to the BA flight, looks like the yields are holding. I should also remind you it IS the middle of winter so load factor isn't great.
Different market, I disagree but we shall see. We shall also see where the shed load of new Boeings end up with the biggest of expansions at a time when people aren't flying...... We'll see.
As to the BA flight, looks like the yields are holding. I should also remind you it IS the middle of winter so load factor isn't great.
BA are going to start charging for extras, just too survive. You are only allowed one bag free to check in with BA on Euro flights, and soon enough the charges will rise.