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You reap what you sow.
Seems the "city lemmings" have finally seen the light.
The Mullingar K*****r never had any clothes among his peers anyway.
Artie sums it up well
AMDG Miicko!!!.......the real one,not the hairy camel twit either!
Seems the "city lemmings" have finally seen the light.
The Mullingar K*****r never had any clothes among his peers anyway.
Artie sums it up well
AMDG Miicko!!!.......the real one,not the hairy camel twit either!
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Lets keep this thread about our Armchair-CEO opinions on Ryanair, their share price, and their U-turn on fares this winter. Not about MOL.
I know alot of pax are getting cleverer about Ryanair and their extra charges, and now don't pay one bean more.
jupilair - That really is an GREAT strategy. Sell all the tickets at 5 quid, hope for no shows, then pocket the tax. Genius. That'll turn things around. Inform Warren Buffett immediately. Seriously though, I do understand about ancillary revenue, but I believe even it when combined with very low fares , is not enough to cover the costs.
I know alot of pax are getting cleverer about Ryanair and their extra charges, and now don't pay one bean more.
jupilair - That really is an GREAT strategy. Sell all the tickets at 5 quid, hope for no shows, then pocket the tax. Genius. That'll turn things around. Inform Warren Buffett immediately. Seriously though, I do understand about ancillary revenue, but I believe even it when combined with very low fares , is not enough to cover the costs.
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Thursday Ryanair press conference at Bologna BLQ with MOL. Probably will be annunced new routes and/or the move of some flights from Forli to Bologna.
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But Ryanair has opted to go down the opposite route and will instead launch an aggressive new low-fares drive to entice customers. "We did this [massive sales] after 9/11, after the Madrid bombings, after both Gulf wars -- and we're doing it again now," Mr O'Leary added
But now his clients have other factors to worry about. Such as petrol prices, gas and electricity prices and food prices. So the low cost clients now have far less 'play' money available and will simply be unable to afford to fly anywhere whilst they're wondering how to pay the gas bill.
A few quid off the 'price' of a Ryanair ticket won't be much use if you can't even afford to drive to the airport.......
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he is now gambling with the companys existence.hey no problem mick,as long as the shareholders are happy to see you **** it up royally once again,then that is cool.what happens if the masses do not have the money to buy ever increasingly priced flights with no service and heaps of abuse.the anticipated downfall of all europes airlines and the fuel price drop do not happen.factors that are not unrealisitic.well what the hell,it's somebody elses money anyhow,right micko!!!!
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Quite right Beagle.
Unless all the hotels are going to sell beds at £10 a pop, car hire companies daily hire at £5, restaurants give away free food and banks offer ridiculous improvements in the exchange rate, then free flights are something of a pointless offering for the leisure traveller likely to consider using Ryanair.
And as for his ancillary revenue, FR may well do quite nicely out of it at the moment, but I seriously doubt that the staus quo is going to continue with regard to this kind of spending.
The man is perilously close to commiting the most spectacular form of commercial suicide.
Unless all the hotels are going to sell beds at £10 a pop, car hire companies daily hire at £5, restaurants give away free food and banks offer ridiculous improvements in the exchange rate, then free flights are something of a pointless offering for the leisure traveller likely to consider using Ryanair.
And as for his ancillary revenue, FR may well do quite nicely out of it at the moment, but I seriously doubt that the staus quo is going to continue with regard to this kind of spending.
The man is perilously close to commiting the most spectacular form of commercial suicide.
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I think mainly what will be reduce is the earning by effective passenger from 42 to 40 €. The fact is that they still need to reach the quota of passengers they bring to all destinations all over europe otherwise they loose the subventions given by local tourism agencies.
I think mainly what will be reduce is the earning by effective passenger from 42 to 40 €. The fact is that they still need to reach the quota of passengers they bring to all destinations all over europe otherwise they loose the subventions given by local tourism agencies.
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Edit
Shshsh... now the page is trying to show taxes as well
Second edit
Nope, the task of showing fees and taxes appears to be absolutely too ambicious. Now the booking system is completely jammed again...
Shshsh... now the page is trying to show taxes as well
Second edit
Nope, the task of showing fees and taxes appears to be absolutely too ambicious. Now the booking system is completely jammed again...
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Update MOL Italian tour:
Thursday 11:00 Ryanair press conference with MOL at BLQ
Thursday 14:30 Ryanair press conference with MOL in Milan
Thursday 15:00 Ryanair press conference at Forli with Bridget Dowling
MOL is everywhere....
Thursday 11:00 Ryanair press conference with MOL at BLQ
Thursday 14:30 Ryanair press conference with MOL in Milan
Thursday 15:00 Ryanair press conference at Forli with Bridget Dowling
MOL is everywhere....
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jupilair - That really is an GREAT strategy. Sell all the tickets at 5 quid, hope for no shows, then pocket the tax. Genius.
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Jupiliar
Great, apart from one small detail........... from next year APD is to be axed and is to be replaced by a tax on each departure, empty or full, this will at a stroke remove the millions that MOL pockets each year (by not giving a refund of tax) and put it in Gordons pocket or who ever takes his job, for me i'd be happy to see the back of both of them, everyone thought Gordy was great until the going got tough same for MOL, he'l be gone by Xmas (both)
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Originally Posted by facelookbovvered
...put it in Gordons pocket or who ever takes his job, for me i'd be happy to see the back of both of them...
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I think he is very wise. Yes, the fuel situation FR are in isn't the best (or will it be?) but they will come through tops.
People are price sensitive. They will go for the cheapest option. Yes people may spend less on holidays, but people will still travel. UK domestic tourism is up, and FR have a good range of domestic routes in the UK - more than BA. Not to mention flights to DUB from most major UK airports (cheap weekend gettaways).
I can see where they are coming from - by lowering the prices, and getting people on your flights (and not the competitions'), you push the competitors toward going bust. When they do (not that I believe any major EU airline will), you get rid of the competition, people have less choice, you charge more - and profits increase. Once you top up the cash stockpiles you burned through.
So althought I don't see the competition being elimiated - I see people making the switch to FR based on the lower prices.
People are price sensitive. They will go for the cheapest option. Yes people may spend less on holidays, but people will still travel. UK domestic tourism is up, and FR have a good range of domestic routes in the UK - more than BA. Not to mention flights to DUB from most major UK airports (cheap weekend gettaways).
I can see where they are coming from - by lowering the prices, and getting people on your flights (and not the competitions'), you push the competitors toward going bust. When they do (not that I believe any major EU airline will), you get rid of the competition, people have less choice, you charge more - and profits increase. Once you top up the cash stockpiles you burned through.
So althought I don't see the competition being elimiated - I see people making the switch to FR based on the lower prices.
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Michael south west wales
Its not a polictical point, its about two individuals, both who have been revered in the past and are known internationaly, that some how now seem old hat. In fact i would go further, the common term "Stealth tax" was coined as a result of the deceitful way that Gordon Brown extracted money from the British tax payers through hiden charges and the fine detail of his budget papers, whilst all the time pretending to be doing right by the people of Great Britain. MOL likeswise is a master of all things that are deceitful, wheelchair levvy,reduction from 20k to 15k (because its what passenger want), credit card fee per pax per sector, sure many other now do the same, but by and large they follow MOL leadSo lets have some feed back from other Pprunners? who else thinks that they are Brothers in arms when it comes to deceit?
I don't dislike Ryanair or its employees,its MOL who IMHO i think has done damage to the industry, he has really got the green lobby going with his headline line fares of £0.01p, the churlish bye bye whoever on the side of his aircraft and the treatment of those in his employ, either way time will tell
I'll get me tin hat