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The deal with Guflstream must be a good 'earner' and in itself must attract a lot of Gulfstreams to the location.
I believe the new FBO was seriously on the cards, but it became apparent that the lease on a large part of the ramp would expire some years after completion. So they would have been left with a lovely FBO but no-where to park any aeroplanes.
I think some very inventive ideas will be needed to get out of that one
Best thing would be to be out of that corner of the main ramp altogether and upfield in some wide open space. But then someone has to pay for all the infrastucture and suchlike. Oh, and LLA would probably say that you can have the land and spend £100m but they are only prepared to give a 6 year lease or something
Maybe I'm being cynical
I believe the new FBO was seriously on the cards, but it became apparent that the lease on a large part of the ramp would expire some years after completion. So they would have been left with a lovely FBO but no-where to park any aeroplanes.
I think some very inventive ideas will be needed to get out of that one
Best thing would be to be out of that corner of the main ramp altogether and upfield in some wide open space. But then someone has to pay for all the infrastucture and suchlike. Oh, and LLA would probably say that you can have the land and spend £100m but they are only prepared to give a 6 year lease or something
Maybe I'm being cynical
Volare again?
For each of the last three days, the Airport website has been showing a Volare arrival at 11.10 from Parma, Italy. AFAIK no Volare flight has actually arrived.
Is this a real flight, a much-delayed charter, a hint of a new service or a c0ck-up?
No mention of the service on Volare or Parma airport websites.
Is this a real flight, a much-delayed charter, a hint of a new service or a c0ck-up?
No mention of the service on Volare or Parma airport websites.
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I would be surprised if this was not being considered with ongoing negotiations with the council.
Both FBO are lucky in having facilities at other airports not too far away.
As far as £100M, the new Harrods facilities are £6M but any investment needs an acceptable return.
All we can do is watch this space and see what happens over the coming months.
I see LFPB is once again Europe’s largest general aviation airfield, has EGGW lost its top spot?
Both FBO are lucky in having facilities at other airports not too far away.
As far as £100M, the new Harrods facilities are £6M but any investment needs an acceptable return.
All we can do is watch this space and see what happens over the coming months.
I see LFPB is once again Europe’s largest general aviation airfield, has EGGW lost its top spot?
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I would be surprised if this was not being considered with ongoing negotiations with the Council.
Where LLAO is becoming less keen on corporate flights is during the peak hours when the available runway slots are tight, and it's aim is to meet the airlines' movement requirements.
Is this a real flight, a much-delayed charter, a hint of a new service or a cock-up?
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See now that the LTN-SNN route is operated by a LTN based ryan airframe, three days a week. Seems to fill the gap left by by BES, which is suspended for the winter, starts again 1 April. For the remaining four days, SNN is operated by a SNN based aircraft.
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Parma was rumoured to be a new Volare base sometime ago, so maybe one of the planned destinations was London?
Luton has a habit of enticing waifs and strays. Some work, whilst others...Ciao Fly for now!
Luton has a habit of enticing waifs and strays. Some work, whilst others...Ciao Fly for now!
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Flybe to Jersey
In a loal paper in Jersey there was a supplement for Flybe and there commitment to the Channel Islands, one of the articles stated they will resurrect the Luton-Jersey service dropped by Thompson?
Any ideas on this one?
In Jersey they do have spare capicity on there third aircraft that they have in Jersey it could do a regular sevice could even be daily?
Any ideas on this one?
In Jersey they do have spare capicity on there third aircraft that they have in Jersey it could do a regular sevice could even be daily?
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Well Thomsonfly were carrying between 5700/6250 pax a month between JER-LTN, so they did stimulate the market. Would think Flybe could start with at least 4 x weekly for the early/late summer and daily for say July/Aug/Sept, without much trouble.
Assuming an average of 6000 per 30 day month with 2 sectors per day(inbound and outbound) this gives average load of 100. A figure that should keep a few coppers coming into the Flybe kitty !!!!
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Several UK airports are courting Malaysia’s AirAsia X as the long-haul
low-cost carrier prepares for a late October launch of services.
AirAsia X’s chief executive Azran Osman-Rani says the carrier will launch
services to Australia and China “at the end of next month” and plans to begin
flights to the UK “towards the tail end of next year”. He adds AirAsia X is now
talking to several UK airports including Kent Intl, Luton, Manchester and Stansted. “It depends on which airport in the UK gives us the best deal. We haven’t concluded negotiations yet,” says Azran
low-cost carrier prepares for a late October launch of services.
AirAsia X’s chief executive Azran Osman-Rani says the carrier will launch
services to Australia and China “at the end of next month” and plans to begin
flights to the UK “towards the tail end of next year”. He adds AirAsia X is now
talking to several UK airports including Kent Intl, Luton, Manchester and Stansted. “It depends on which airport in the UK gives us the best deal. We haven’t concluded negotiations yet,” says Azran
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Well, they have already placed an order for 15 A330s for deliveries starting sept 08, and the FT reports today, that they are in talks with both Airbus & Boeing with a view to placing an order for up to 50 A350s or B787s.
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SweFly had the foresight to fly to a massive Asian market, sadly their venture failed.
The lo-co's cannot make long haul work. MOL has stated that the 787 can make this market huge profits, but not at the prices Boeing are charging for an airframe in HUGE demand.
MOL bailed out Boeing with a 100 airframe order for the 737-800 after 9-11 and is seeking a similar 'dip' in 787 prices to make the investment work.
Well AsiaX will be able to utilise the runway extension, or the new runway that ACDL were once promising!
Ciao Fly for now!
The lo-co's cannot make long haul work. MOL has stated that the 787 can make this market huge profits, but not at the prices Boeing are charging for an airframe in HUGE demand.
MOL bailed out Boeing with a 100 airframe order for the 737-800 after 9-11 and is seeking a similar 'dip' in 787 prices to make the investment work.
Well AsiaX will be able to utilise the runway extension, or the new runway that ACDL were once promising!
Ciao Fly for now!
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Air Asia X
People seem to have a short term memory... Monarch use to operate their A330s non-stop from LTN to Orlando pre 9/11 attacks! So Air Asia X operating from Luton's "Short Runway" is feasiable, especially when all their flights between London and Malaysia will operate via Dubai which is about a 6-7hr hop...
Air Asia X will drive the hardest bargains, for airport fees and as long as the airport they choose is capable of handling aircraft of this size they will not be picky... For example in Australia they have choosen Avalon as their airport to serve Melbourne and is about 55km from the city and hardly used by by pasenger flights other than a few Jetstar flights.
Been realistic though, I think Stansted will be their choice... But LTN should not yet be written off, if they management offered them a good deal. Airports that see few passengers these days like Biggin Hill, Southend or Manston should not be discounted!
Air Asia X will drive the hardest bargains, for airport fees and as long as the airport they choose is capable of handling aircraft of this size they will not be picky... For example in Australia they have choosen Avalon as their airport to serve Melbourne and is about 55km from the city and hardly used by by pasenger flights other than a few Jetstar flights.
Been realistic though, I think Stansted will be their choice... But LTN should not yet be written off, if they management offered them a good deal. Airports that see few passengers these days like Biggin Hill, Southend or Manston should not be discounted!
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especially when all their flights between London and Malaysia will operate via Dubai which is about a 6-7hr hop...
As usual, there's no definite information.
I think it'll probably operate from STN.
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While the employees in the building works department at Luton need 2 signatures for the authorisation to buy a paint brush BAA are ploughing £££’s into Stansted with the major extension to their terminal which is under way. I think BAA will be more keen than nearly full Luton to do a deal.
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A group of local MPs led by South West Bedfordshire MP Andrew Selous and Luton North MP Kelvin Hopkins, have met police minister Tony McNulty ask why taxpayers in Bedfordshire are picking up a £400,000 policing bill for Luton Airport, despite other smaller airports having their security paid for by the airport operators.
In the past The Home Office paid £1.3 million toward the cost of policing Luton airport, but last year this sum was reduced by £400,000, leaving the county police force - an ultimately local taxpayers - to make up for the loss. This came at a time when airport security costs rose after the summer terror alert. The county's police force, already facing a deficit, has said that it cannot afford to make up the £400,000 funding gap.
As a result of the meeting, the minister will write to Luton airport bosses to ask them to contribute to their policing costs voluntarily as other airports do.
Voluntarily....Good Luck Mr Hopkins!
In the past The Home Office paid £1.3 million toward the cost of policing Luton airport, but last year this sum was reduced by £400,000, leaving the county police force - an ultimately local taxpayers - to make up for the loss. This came at a time when airport security costs rose after the summer terror alert. The county's police force, already facing a deficit, has said that it cannot afford to make up the £400,000 funding gap.
As a result of the meeting, the minister will write to Luton airport bosses to ask them to contribute to their policing costs voluntarily as other airports do.
Voluntarily....Good Luck Mr Hopkins!
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Eddie Stobart
Article appeared in Luton news this morning about haulage company Eddie stobart forming an airline called Stobart air, & possibly using Luton as its London base, anyone any information?
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Yes interesting. The article stated that they had already spoken to STN, and now LTN was top of their list. No pax flights though until 2009, due to the redevelopment of Carlisle.
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Monarch A330s
Hi everyone. Just read the recent post about Monarch flying to Orlando on the A330 out of LTN. Were these flights weight restricted or anything?
Roughly how far could an A330-200 with a three class config (non charter) fly from a runway that length? Would India be pushing it?
Sorry if it's been asked before. Just doing something for uni again and it would be great if I could get an A330 to India - on paper at least. Cheers.
Roughly how far could an A330-200 with a three class config (non charter) fly from a runway that length? Would India be pushing it?
Sorry if it's been asked before. Just doing something for uni again and it would be great if I could get an A330 to India - on paper at least. Cheers.