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It's different strokes for different folks I guess, but I can't say that I give a sh*t about the tone of the blouses and shirts worn by the cabin crews of any ailrine.
I suppose being prudent in these areas is actually quite responsible. Cheaper too. Regular uniform refreshes would probably be reflected in the fare price. Then you'd moan. Some more.
I suppose being prudent in these areas is actually quite responsible. Cheaper too. Regular uniform refreshes would probably be reflected in the fare price. Then you'd moan. Some more.
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Stuff the blouses! (some maybe stuffed already)
I believe that any successful company should be able to look after and reward their staff for their endeavours. Surely it is plain common sense that a happy and motivated crew will do a better job than one that is not. They will then be willing to go that extra mile, plus turnover of staff would be reduced thus making savings. Its supposed to be a safety concious industry, I'd rather fly or work with a contented crew than one that wasn't. So why do some managers not get it?
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Because They (Management) have probably never done the job themselves?
What does PM or ID now about flying a 757?
Or dealing with a bucket load of enrgized kids on a night flight to Ibiza?
I will give PM his 'Dew' thou he has kept LBIA going!
What does PM or ID now about flying a 757?
Or dealing with a bucket load of enrgized kids on a night flight to Ibiza?
I will give PM his 'Dew' thou he has kept LBIA going!
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Well 'PM' probably knows a lot more about flying a 757 than most people, as he was a pilot in the RAF for many years and five times British Aerobatic champion.
Everyone is slating the management, I’m sure they aren't cutting 'perks' just to spite staff, they are doing it because Jet2.com is a Low Cost/No Frills/Budget airline!! We are in the middle of a massive recession, just look at poorly managed companies i.e Zoom, XL .. just to mention a few. They are taking the necessary actions to keep the company alive. Its their jobs! If you wanted to be treated like Royalty then maybe you should try working for Ryanair instead!!
Everyone is slating the management, I’m sure they aren't cutting 'perks' just to spite staff, they are doing it because Jet2.com is a Low Cost/No Frills/Budget airline!! We are in the middle of a massive recession, just look at poorly managed companies i.e Zoom, XL .. just to mention a few. They are taking the necessary actions to keep the company alive. Its their jobs! If you wanted to be treated like Royalty then maybe you should try working for Ryanair instead!!
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Well 'PM' probably knows a lot more about flying a 757 than most people, as he was a pilot in the RAF for many years and five times British Aerobatic champion.
PM wouldn't even have a clue how to start one as he's already told me on a flight once but you clearly know a lot more about him. He certainly didn't know much about 757 APU's until someone pointed out that they can't be switched off and on like a lightbulb!
Perhaps you should find out the reasons as to why he left the RAF in the first place
EGNM - I'm not knocking you for being a fan of Jet2 at all, but as always with PPRUNE, we don't need people who don't work for Jet2 (unless your an office womble) tell us how we ought to feel and behave.... thank you.
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I do work for Jet2.com actually, so I know exactly how to 'feel and behave' thank you very much.
I have also met 'PM' on several occasions and I was merely pointing out that he will know a lot more about how to fly an aircraft than some people on here.
It has already being pointed out if it wasn't for the cutting back of these so called 'perks' for staff - that the company may not be here today. We all know about how we have had to change how we work around some of the new working practices implemented by the management, its all good and well complaining about having to find a valid reason to carry a bit more fuel and that you can't take a two week holiday in July or August, but I can't help thinking that a people would be complaining more if Jet2.com had gone bankrupt. As I have said before, if you don't like it i'm sure Ryanair would look after you much better than Jet2.com. Try it.
I have also met 'PM' on several occasions and I was merely pointing out that he will know a lot more about how to fly an aircraft than some people on here.
It has already being pointed out if it wasn't for the cutting back of these so called 'perks' for staff - that the company may not be here today. We all know about how we have had to change how we work around some of the new working practices implemented by the management, its all good and well complaining about having to find a valid reason to carry a bit more fuel and that you can't take a two week holiday in July or August, but I can't help thinking that a people would be complaining more if Jet2.com had gone bankrupt. As I have said before, if you don't like it i'm sure Ryanair would look after you much better than Jet2.com. Try it.
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if you don't like it i'm sure Ryanair would look after you much better than Jet2.com. Try it.
You maybe interested to hear that BALPA is now targeting FYR and I hope for the staff that they get full recognition.
If Jet2 are planning to carry out travel and charter operations then they must be prepared to change the company culture. It has already been done from Freight to Low Cost so one would imagine that it would be easier. However, jetting off half way around the world with very little experience in flight crews, engineering and support is not a joke and if not done properly could end up very messy and costly.
On another note our Annual Salary Review letters came to day with no real surprises. I'm not at all bothered and would of been very shocked had we all had a rise. I don't think any of the staff were expecting, nor demanding one, just less attacks on our already poor T & C's............
On a happier note, Mr M expects the economy to pick up 'in the not so distant future' and he does have rather good financial intuition.
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B-727 get in the real world!, we are in a recession and in a very unstable business at the moment. If cut backs mean we stay in a job than so be it, much better to have an income than join the millions on the dole. If you are not happy go and work in a factory or something and see what life is about outside your little comfort zone!
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Cutting back in the hard times is fine as long as there are similar rewards in the good times. It should work both ways but it rarely does.
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B-727 get in the real world!, we are in a recession and in a very unstable business at the moment.
Sorry, did I say that we weren't.....................
I can assure you that my shares, pension and house value, friends and family all losing jobs at the moment have given me a few clues that we might be
Ahh, there's always a PPRuNe member from Yorkshire ready to defend any slightly negative comment about Jet2. I'd like to point out that I think the airline itself and its staff are pretty excelent. It's the links in the chain and the crazy decisions in the last year or so that I and many of my colleagues have issue with.
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I agree with what 727 is saying,
And just because there is a recession, It doesn't mean hard loyal working crew people have to WORK FOR NOTHING just because JET 2 want to make even MORE money?
Is EVERYONE in a recession = NO.
I think the current conditions will only make PM & Jet 2 motivated to make even MORE money!!
Wake up & Listen,
I once used to know a Jewish businessman from Leeds, Which is a large community of Jewish people, He used to come to my antiques stall, And he would say regular - 'Oh business is not good '- Yeah right - He lived in Adel (Millionaire's Patch) and drove a top of the range Merc!!
Don't forget the 'Vast Majority' of people who are in this recession are in it because of their own making, Living in expensive houses, Expensive cars, Credit cards (Never had one & won't have one), Borrowed money over and over again from the GREEDY banks - Where does it end with them?
Robbing Peter To Pay Paul, Money going out as fast as it is coming in.
I know people who have done this, And now they are digging a hole!!
So, really Jet 2 are using this as an excuse to 'Chop' the commision and other perks of the job, A kind of 'Smokescreen' to the crew (Scare tactic) to make them feel that they have a job & won't find another one.
PM will obviously put the shareholders before the staff.
The media are just painting a 'Black Picture' of britain, and at the same time filling our heads with S*it as they do every day!!
What is the obvious is not always the apparent?
And just because there is a recession, It doesn't mean hard loyal working crew people have to WORK FOR NOTHING just because JET 2 want to make even MORE money?
Is EVERYONE in a recession = NO.
I think the current conditions will only make PM & Jet 2 motivated to make even MORE money!!
Wake up & Listen,
I once used to know a Jewish businessman from Leeds, Which is a large community of Jewish people, He used to come to my antiques stall, And he would say regular - 'Oh business is not good '- Yeah right - He lived in Adel (Millionaire's Patch) and drove a top of the range Merc!!
Don't forget the 'Vast Majority' of people who are in this recession are in it because of their own making, Living in expensive houses, Expensive cars, Credit cards (Never had one & won't have one), Borrowed money over and over again from the GREEDY banks - Where does it end with them?
Robbing Peter To Pay Paul, Money going out as fast as it is coming in.
I know people who have done this, And now they are digging a hole!!
So, really Jet 2 are using this as an excuse to 'Chop' the commision and other perks of the job, A kind of 'Smokescreen' to the crew (Scare tactic) to make them feel that they have a job & won't find another one.
PM will obviously put the shareholders before the staff.
The media are just painting a 'Black Picture' of britain, and at the same time filling our heads with S*it as they do every day!!
What is the obvious is not always the apparent?
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Confidence or the lack of it is the problem
The slide in the pound has made Europe much more expensive to visit, some will travel further a lot will stay at home or travel to Europe less. Many of our regular travellers have in the past flown to Europe 3 or more times in a year, these are normal working class types not the rich & famous, if they cut one trip a year out then volume will fall by a thrid and over time airlines have to trim capacity to match, which mean aircraft and crews unless they can grow new volume by flying further a field as Jet2 have done, but it cost more and puts more hours on the old girls.
It is the job of banks to lend and it was the shortage of new housing plus massive demand from the buy to let market and the large influx of overseas workers that drove demand and prices to level that meant new ways of financing house purchases became the norm. Interest only 125% L/E and the rest. The only saving grace at the minute is very low interest rates which mean people on interest only are paying next to nothing (if they have a tracker) but it wont and can't last our borrowing is now so large that within a few years we will probably be back up to base rates over 5% to control inflation.
Tomorrows budget will make grim reading, but most of the pain will be left until after the next general election and who ever wins that will be handed a poison chalice.
My advice, take the profit on your Jet2 shares and pay down your debts, one is going to go down and the other is going to go up! i'll leave it for you to figure which is which, time to take a CFM to Spain (one way)!!
The slide in the pound has made Europe much more expensive to visit, some will travel further a lot will stay at home or travel to Europe less. Many of our regular travellers have in the past flown to Europe 3 or more times in a year, these are normal working class types not the rich & famous, if they cut one trip a year out then volume will fall by a thrid and over time airlines have to trim capacity to match, which mean aircraft and crews unless they can grow new volume by flying further a field as Jet2 have done, but it cost more and puts more hours on the old girls.
It is the job of banks to lend and it was the shortage of new housing plus massive demand from the buy to let market and the large influx of overseas workers that drove demand and prices to level that meant new ways of financing house purchases became the norm. Interest only 125% L/E and the rest. The only saving grace at the minute is very low interest rates which mean people on interest only are paying next to nothing (if they have a tracker) but it wont and can't last our borrowing is now so large that within a few years we will probably be back up to base rates over 5% to control inflation.
Tomorrows budget will make grim reading, but most of the pain will be left until after the next general election and who ever wins that will be handed a poison chalice.
My advice, take the profit on your Jet2 shares and pay down your debts, one is going to go down and the other is going to go up! i'll leave it for you to figure which is which, time to take a CFM to Spain (one way)!!
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Ive flown jet 2 only once this year have to say i was very unimpresed, the crew were at best surly, the seat i was in was held together with gaffer tape (as was the tray table which couldnt be used )the cabin generally was in a tatty state, this may have been a one off but if i were running jet 2 id be loking at the likes of monarch as how to do it , friendly professional crew, well presented cabin and aircraft that look like there looked after by people who know what there about, sure way to cock up a good business, demotivate your vital resources
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Simonchowder,
Not at all like my most recent flights with Jet2 to Lanzarote I was on 757 aircraft, and both directions I thought the aircraft were in better internal condition than many BA and Britannia aircraft I've travelled on. What's more the crew were very friendly on each flight. But I suppose anyone can get them on a bad day.
Not at all like my most recent flights with Jet2 to Lanzarote I was on 757 aircraft, and both directions I thought the aircraft were in better internal condition than many BA and Britannia aircraft I've travelled on. What's more the crew were very friendly on each flight. But I suppose anyone can get them on a bad day.
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Very true ,however my biggest gripe was the state of the cabin it was awfull and begs the question if the cabins held together with tape whats the rest of the aircraft like? i appeciate these aircraft are "old bangers" but surely a bit of time and effort could go into cabin presentation, after all its the only bit the punter sees so it matters imo.
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Why did you even decide to mention that completely irrelevant point....
Idf the man was jewish...the man was jewish.....it doesnt make it racist....
Stop being pathetic and petty and get on with ya life for goodnes sake...
Idf the man was jewish...the man was jewish.....it doesnt make it racist....
Stop being pathetic and petty and get on with ya life for goodnes sake...
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There is good and bad CC in most airlines
As for Monarch the last flight i had with them a few months back had the most poo face cabin crew i have come across in a long time, there was not eye contact no smiles just a blank look
Most the Jet2 crew are Okay, but like anywhere else you get the odd one or two with (bad) attitude, mind you they had a rough deal at the hands of PM this last year.
Speed tape rules, read the book `Bondage and a thousand things you can do with Duc Tape'
The Face
Most the Jet2 crew are Okay, but like anywhere else you get the odd one or two with (bad) attitude, mind you they had a rough deal at the hands of PM this last year.
Speed tape rules, read the book `Bondage and a thousand things you can do with Duc Tape'
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poo faced cabin crew at a pinch i can live with but having to eat my meal off my lap because the seat in front was falling to bits and taped up and a recline that didnt lock vertically so i had to move to a vacant crew seat for landing is pushing it a bit, oh and no IFE either , fred karnos airline im afraid, not a patch on monarch