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FF, no worries. I posted it because I find this extremely usefull information as it gives an insight as how the operation is going to unfold/change over the next 6 months or so. It's better than sitting in the dark not knowing what is going to happen and when. But that might just be my Operations background kicking in...
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145qrh.... just you wait until WW does another deal with JF and then we shall see who the grumpy old bugger really is ! ( Short lived I can assure you ) you will get over it. Life on the Flybe side is good, it really is, no complaints a well managed company focusing on what they do best...... I have to admit the EMB looks good in the BA colours, but for how long though? Only kidding....... ha!
Anyway, good to hear from you.
Anyway, good to hear from you.
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Yes it really is a lovely aircraft - I do miss the EMB experience, but, you know, the Q400 is an okay machine, as you are aware, I have no experience of the old Dash, but those who do, tell me they are night and day. The Q400 performs better than the 145, ( on the routes we do ) on which I spent 10 years, so fair bit of EMB time, you would agree.
I would not expect to be on the Q400 too much longer, I am enjoying the flying from Athens hugely and as you probably are aware, that runs until end of August 2010, by which time I shall be full of Feta cheese and Mythos, the latter slips down rather well, BTW and come 2010, I shall be ready to spend my last few years of my 38 year career, thus far, as a grumpy, but very tolerant, old bugger on the 195.
Safe flying.
FF
I would not expect to be on the Q400 too much longer, I am enjoying the flying from Athens hugely and as you probably are aware, that runs until end of August 2010, by which time I shall be full of Feta cheese and Mythos, the latter slips down rather well, BTW and come 2010, I shall be ready to spend my last few years of my 38 year career, thus far, as a grumpy, but very tolerant, old bugger on the 195.
Safe flying.
FF
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Are BACF having problems with one of their new E-Jets?.
It's just I noticed the BA8734/BA8735 LCY/FRA/LCY rotation was cancelled today and the BA8736 is delayed 20:40. I am guessing they are going to use the E-jet coming in from EDI at 20:05 to operate the service.
How are the 2 new E-jets performing apart from todays delays??
It's just I noticed the BA8734/BA8735 LCY/FRA/LCY rotation was cancelled today and the BA8736 is delayed 20:40. I am guessing they are going to use the E-jet coming in from EDI at 20:05 to operate the service.
How are the 2 new E-jets performing apart from todays delays??
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E-Jets
got a ride on one of the shiny new e-jets on Monday coming down from Edinburgh on BA8703. The cabin feels a lot smaller than the old RJs. The seats are fine, only two either side of the aisle. Think there were only two cabin crew, rather than the normal three on the RJ.
On the descent into LCY the wing spoilers partially extend all the way down the glideslope which seems to cause a bit of vibration in the cabin. We hit the runway with a thump that caused some of the overhead bins to spring open and the woman next to me say a rude word..
Thought the crew might have mentioned it was a new jet, but they did not say anything.
Will have to see how they cope with operations into LCY. . but looks good so far...
got a ride on one of the shiny new e-jets on Monday coming down from Edinburgh on BA8703. The cabin feels a lot smaller than the old RJs. The seats are fine, only two either side of the aisle. Think there were only two cabin crew, rather than the normal three on the RJ.
On the descent into LCY the wing spoilers partially extend all the way down the glideslope which seems to cause a bit of vibration in the cabin. We hit the runway with a thump that caused some of the overhead bins to spring open and the woman next to me say a rude word..
Thought the crew might have mentioned it was a new jet, but they did not say anything.
Will have to see how they cope with operations into LCY. . but looks good so far...
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Long story but ended up flying to AMS from EDI a few weeks a ago via LCY as SLF. Flew on the RJ to AMS and the ERJ to LCY.
I'll take the RJ any day. More space and feels like a tank. ERJ feels a bit plastic. Reminded me of the Q400.
I used to fly the 146 so maybe I'm a bit nostalgic but I don't think so.
Tom
PS the weekend in AMS was great.
I'll take the RJ any day. More space and feels like a tank. ERJ feels a bit plastic. Reminded me of the Q400.
I used to fly the 146 so maybe I'm a bit nostalgic but I don't think so.
Tom
PS the weekend in AMS was great.
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Rare comments, I know a few people that work at LCY and they have had nothing but positve comments. The cabin is smaller, but has more space per customer than the RJ by far, the seats are nearly 2'' wider according to Embraer website.
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Are the RJ100s five- or six-abreast? If they are six-abreast, the E170 layout is a huge improvement - not only because it avoids middle-seats, but also allows for wider seats.
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Swiss is also 5 abreast. 5 Abreast didn't make sense for BACF due to EDI/LCY flights that need the extra capacity. I think our passengers will like the 2 - 2 config of the E-Jets. They are very nice indeed!
@ Flying Phil. You can have a thump on landing on either aircraft. In LCY landings are meant to be a bit firmer than normal.
And regarding the spoilers during the approach. The aircraft uses the same basic aircraft controls, but the software enables the fly-by-wire system to deploy the spoilers to create extra drag. Physically, there is one extra button in the cockpit, which tells the system that a steep approach is to be performed. That simple button commands the number 4 and 5 outer wing spoilers to offset slightly while the control column is in a neutral position, creating the drag required to increase the rate of descent.
Initially when Crossair signed for the E170's the plan was to have an air brake, but that was later changed to this intelligent solution. It is retrofittable, so if airlines operating in Europe with E-170s or E-190s want to operate into London City, they will be able to do so with the aircraft they already have. In fact the software for this steep approach will be part of a bigger software upgrade package that the aircraft will be getting later this year. (2009)
Next airline to operate into LCY wit the E190 steep approach function wil be Babboo.(my guess!)
@ Flying Phil. You can have a thump on landing on either aircraft. In LCY landings are meant to be a bit firmer than normal.
And regarding the spoilers during the approach. The aircraft uses the same basic aircraft controls, but the software enables the fly-by-wire system to deploy the spoilers to create extra drag. Physically, there is one extra button in the cockpit, which tells the system that a steep approach is to be performed. That simple button commands the number 4 and 5 outer wing spoilers to offset slightly while the control column is in a neutral position, creating the drag required to increase the rate of descent.
Initially when Crossair signed for the E170's the plan was to have an air brake, but that was later changed to this intelligent solution. It is retrofittable, so if airlines operating in Europe with E-170s or E-190s want to operate into London City, they will be able to do so with the aircraft they already have. In fact the software for this steep approach will be part of a bigger software upgrade package that the aircraft will be getting later this year. (2009)
Next airline to operate into LCY wit the E190 steep approach function wil be Babboo.(my guess!)
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most DLH are 5 - Swiss I don't know but I'd guess 5..
Swiss are indeed 5 abreast - nice and comfy.