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Old 9th Feb 2010, 21:12
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What sunshine routes will the Embraers be hitting this summer?
I heard a rumour about a Northern UK Airport and an Italian Airport.
Is this correct? Plus, what other stuff is on the cards?
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Old 9th Feb 2010, 21:24
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Sunshine stuff on the E190 besides LCY's PMI and IBZ;

EDI-MAN-CAG (Cagliari)
GLA-BCN
GLA-PMI

And on the RJ;
GLA-AGP

Aircraft types subject to change.
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Old 10th Feb 2010, 15:47
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GLA-BCN
GLA-PMI

And on the RJ;
GLA-AGP
Any ideas which tour operator these flights are being operated for?.
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Old 10th Feb 2010, 19:45
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No charter flights are planned on the RJ100, as said before the RJ100 from GLA wouldnt make it with a full load. All charters will be operated by E190. There will be a few more than the ones mentioned I heard.
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Old 10th Feb 2010, 19:53
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No charter flights are planned on the RJ100, as said before the RJ100 from GLA wouldnt make it with a full load. All charters will be operated by E190. There will be a few more than the ones mentioned I heard.
Maybe they will use it on the BCN or PMI ex GLA as BACF a couple of years ago operated a charter service on the RJ to PMI ex EDI. Anyway I thought the last RJ100 would hae left the fleet by August.

Do you know if the GLA charters will operate on BACF's quiet operational day i.e Saturday/Sunday or are they planned to operate on weekdays aswell.

Any ideas if EDI will see anymore charters??.

It is good to see BACF using their fleet for charter work. Especially on days such as Saturday's when the fleet usually sits around doing nothing.
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Old 10th Feb 2010, 21:07
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The GLA-AGP is the only one on the RJ from April onwards, and as far as I know all charters will be once a week during weekends.

What other routes have you heard AirLcy?
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Old 10th Feb 2010, 21:20
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The GLA-AGP is the only one on the RJ from April onwards, and as far as I know all charters will be once a week during weekends.
Thanks for clarifying that. With a start date of April and a E170 and a RJ85 being the nightstopping aircraft I am guessing that the AGP will be on the RJ85.

Talking of the RJ's, with the last E190 being delayed until October will BACF be holding on to one of the RJ's until it arrives. Also will the RJ85's, being the last two RJ's to be added to the fleet, be the last to leave??.

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Old 11th Feb 2010, 20:36
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Did any of the old Citiexpress lads get taken on to Cityflyer when Flybe took over? Or is everyone still at Flybe? Is the Manchester base now made up of a mixture of crews or are some of the usual suspects still there?
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Old 11th Feb 2010, 20:49
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Not heard which routes, but heard there will be more than the 4 flights a week mentioned, and def none on the RJ85/100 or E170. All will be E190, so I guess the night stop plan will change??? The slots show they start in May I think, I think Cityflyer should have about 3 E190's by then, anyone know the full delivery schedule?
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Old 11th Feb 2010, 21:04
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fairly up2 date schedule is on Jethro's
they do hold options on the E190
if this goes well then you could see them take the options!
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Old 12th Feb 2010, 08:02
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Just and idea!!

BACF this summer will operate the usual Saturday MAD/LCY service and the Sunday LCY/MAD as they have done since starting the route. Surely wouldn't this route be more popular with leisure and some business pax if BACF at least offered a Sunday flight ex MAD to cater for those pax on weekend breaks. Especially during the summer season. I know it would do well.

What they could do is operate a Saturday MAD/LCY/MAD service departing at the same times as the Monday-Thursday BA8752/BA8753. With the aircraft day stopping in MAD before operating a BA8754/BA8755 on a Sunday. It is better than the a/c sitting around in EDI for close to 30 hours.

Also I noticed BACF will operate 3 flights ex LCY to EDI on a Saturday departing at 08:40, 08:45 and 09:30. ( 2 x E170, 1 x E190SR). I think they will struggle to fill those seats.
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Old 12th Feb 2010, 08:42
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E-Jet deliveries

When do BACF take delivery of the first E190SR and are all the E170's delivered now?
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Old 12th Feb 2010, 08:56
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If I am not mistaken .....

The final unit of the 6 Embraer 170 was delivered at the end of January. The first of the 5 Embraer 190 wll be along about mid-March, four will be in place by the start of the summer programme with the final one coming in October.

Meanwhile there are still 2 RJ85s and 3 RJ100s in service, so it looks like a one-for-one replacement, except that would mean one lone RJ lasting through the summer. Is that the case ?
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Old 13th Feb 2010, 21:43
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At the end of FEB we should be down to 1 RJ100 and 2 RJ85's. Than somewhere down the line the last RJ100 will go before the last 2 RJ85's on June 21st.

All E170's have now been delivered and the first E190SR should arrive on 7th of March for EIS on the 15th. Picture here; Aero World News Photos

The GLA-AGP will almost certainly be on the RJ85.

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These modern aircraft have been designed to incorporate a passenger and
quarantine-friendly cabin with the aircraft interior planned especially for this project. The first of the RJ100 aircraft will be in service during the first half of 2010, followed closely by a second aircraft in 2011

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Modern-It is Australia we are talking about here. If it were New Zealand it would be the 'ATP'?
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Call me old fashioned, but the Jungle Jets just don't look as nice as the 146s when viewed from the tower. Very bland (and the 170s are a bit too nose up)!

Also, their reliability does not seem to be any better (teething troubles I'll assume).

Which one is more fun to fly?

I would wager that you would rather be in a robust 146 on a 25G35kt crosswind landing at city?

Still waiting to see the EMBs tested properly in bad WX (might hide under the console).

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Old 15th Feb 2010, 08:59
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I would definately go for the looks of the Jungle Jet. But in a stiff crosswind I feel quite comfortable in my 146 at the moment. Not having been on the E-Jet in a windy day I can't judge them.

Regarding our summer charters; (Combination of sat and/or sun work)
GLA-FAO-GLA on E190. Dep GLA 0530 - 0840 as BA 4535. Dep FAO 0920 - 1230 as BA 4536.

GLA-ALC-GLA on E190. Dep GLA 1355 - 1700 as BA 4527. Dep ALC 1800 - 2100 as BA 4528.

GLA-PMI-GLA on E190. Dep GLA 0600 - 0900 as BA 4521. Dep PMI 0940 - 1240 as BA 4522.

GLA-BCN-GLA E190. Dep GLA 0500- 0740 as BA 4531. Dep BCN 0820 - 1100 as BA 4532.

EDI-MAN-CAG-MAN-EDI on E190. Dep EDI 0930 -1415 in CAG as BA 4513.
Dep CAG 1500 - 1945 in EDI as BA 4514.
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ANM; On what basis do you say the reliability doesn't seem any better than the RJ? Having flown the EMB since its arrival I have yet to have a tech issue at all. There have been a couple of minor problems but they were , as you suggested, teething issues only. As for strong cross winds I'll wait and see!
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