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Old 26th Jul 2010, 19:59
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Originally Posted by DutchBird-757
No surprise to see PMI and IBZ return. Hopefully with a higher frequency.

Regarding the new destination. How about Berlin, as WHBM already mentioned. New airport under construction and a base for Air Berlin.
Just announced; Air Berlin to join Oneworld Alliance. Official announcement in Berlin tomorrow with the CEO's of AA/AB/BA/AY and Oneworld itself present.

Press release here and Oneworld info.
The timings of those new BA slots puzzled me because they don't match an LCY-based aircraft, i.e. there's a long ground time at the outstation. But the Air Berlin announcement was an "aha!" moment. If BA were holding the new LCY slots on behalf of AB, everything would make sense, e.g. an Air Berlin Q400 operating Berlin or (more likely) Hamburg or Dusseldorf to LCY twice a day, with a BA codeshare. That's just my mad guess, but let's wait and see...

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Old 26th Jul 2010, 20:33
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But the Air Berlin announcement was an "aha!" moment.
I was thinking the same thing. However, the system definately shows that the flight is operated by an E170 plus with true BA flightnumbers. It does not make sense to have the aircraft sitting idle for 16hrs away from base.
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Old 26th Jul 2010, 22:26
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DB, any news of more aircraft entering the fleet? You've always got an ear to the ground

And if so any sign of a few more pilots and cabin crew being required? We're at breaking point with what we've got ATM,

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P.S Heard YF was driven into a blast fence in EDI... Whoopsie!
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 08:48
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Haven't read/heard anything yet.

Don't even start about YF.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 08:55
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Is it serious?
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 10:19
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Any incident is serious however, they should hopefully have it fixed today.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 13:19
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Other bases/routes/expansion?

Will Cityflyer ever consider expanding from airports such as BOH, CWL, BHX, LPL, etc etc?
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Did BA have to give any undertakings to FlyBE when they sold BA Connect which may prevent BACF doing this?

Certainly ba.com lists flights from BHX which are operated by FlyBE as a BA codeshare - can't see FlyBE would be happy about BA poaching back in on those assuming there was such a market.

(I for one would rather fly on an E jet than a Q400 - both good aircraft, just my preference!).
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 13:30
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RE BOH, CWL, BHX, LPL

LPL- Probably not as the only route they could operate would be to LCY, and VLM has abandoned that market (and MAN) due to the such good rail links the North west now has to London. Liverpool/MAN to London city centre is faster by rail than by air now (centre to centre)

BOH- If a low cost based airline such as RYR cant make BOH work that well for them, what do you expect citiflyer to do?

CWL- again, what market would this be for?

BHX- BA seems more than happy with the codeshare agreement it has in place with BE, so I doubt that it will enter BHX, apart from the few charters it is operating this summer.
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 10:02
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I did not see this one coming! So let's end the speculation.

==
New Denmark flights direct from Docklands
British Airways is opening up its route network from London City Airport with the launch of its first route to Scandinavia.

The airline has announced plans to start a new double daily weekday service from the docklands airport to Copenhagen in Denmark, providing a direct air link between the two capital cities.

There will also be one flight a day from London City on Sundays and one flight from Copenhagen on Saturdays.

The new flights will start on September 12, and will be operated by British Airways wholly owned subsidiary BA CityFlyer with their fleet of brand new Embraer 190 aircraft.

Luke Hayhoe, BA CityFlyer commercial manager said: “This has been a year of firsts for us at London City Airport, with new leisure focused flights to the Balearic Islands launched earlier in the year and now our first ever venture into Scandinavia.

“Once again we are responding to demand from our customers for both business and leisure travel to Denmark and we are delighted to be launching another exciting new route using our new aircraft.”

One way fares are available from £65 and are available to book on Book Flights, Hotels, Holidays, Car Rental with British Airways - BA.com.

==
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 11:26
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New Denmark flights direct from Docklands
British Airways is opening up its route network from London City Airport with the launch of its first route to Scandinavia
Has Billund been moved? We should be told!

Yes I know Sun Air is not technically BA but then neither is CitiFlyer. Dear me, good news though!
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 11:43
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Originally Posted by Dutch-Bird757
The airline has announced plans to start a new double daily weekday service from the docklands airport to Copenhagen in Denmark, providing a direct air link between the two capital cities.

There will also be one flight a day from London City on Sundays and one flight from Copenhagen on Saturdays.
Interesting addition to the BACF timetable. Notice that there is no Saturday Service scheduled for the W10/11 timetable.

BA8466 CPH 07:15 LCY 08:15 E70 1 2 3 4 5 - -
BA8468 CPH 16:35 LCY 17:35 E70 1 2 3 4 5 - 7


BA8465 LCY 08:45 CPH 11:45 E70 1 2 3 4 5 - -
BA8467 LCY 18:05 CPH 21:00 E70 1 2 3 4 5 - 7

Still think the 5hr gap between flights could be better used. Maybe by extending the BA8465 to operate LCY/CPH/HEL and the BA8468 to operate HEL/CPH/LCY. I am sure that AY would codeshare to add extra CPH/HEL pax. With a flight time of 1hr 40 it would fit perfectly.

It will be interesting to see what QI do about there timetable.


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DB 757; its my understanding that it's us that will be operating the Chambrey
Any word on what days and times the CMF flights will operate.

Originally Posted by Dutch-Bird757
No surprise to see PMI and IBZ return. Hopefully with a higher frequency.
Just noticed that IBZ seems to be on sale until early July 2011. According to ba.com flight will operate:

From 27 March to 24 April : 2 x weekly (Fri & Sun)
From 29 April : 3 x weekly (Mon, Fri & Sun)

No PMI flights available.

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Old 28th Jul 2010, 19:49
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Something seems wrong here:

BA8466 CPH 07:15 LCY 08:15 E70 1 2 3 4 5 - -
BA8468 CPH 16:35 LCY 17:35 E70 1 2 3 4 5 - 7

BA8465 LCY 08:45 CPH 11:45 E70 1 2 3 4 5 - -
BA8467 LCY 18:05 CPH 21:00 E70 1 2 3 4 5 - 7


How does the aircraft get to CPH to operate an 07:15 departure on Monday? Also, what happens to Friday's BA8467 LCY-CPH - is it spending the whole weekend in CPH??
Suspect the timetable should read:

BA8466 CPH 07:15 LCY 08:15 E70 1 2 3 4 5 6 -
BA8468 CPH 16:35 LCY 17:35 E70 1 2 3 4 5 -

BA8465 LCY 08:45 CPH 11:45 E70 1 2 3 4 5 - -
BA8467 LCY 18:05 CPH 21:00 E70 1 2 3 4 5 - 7



Also, 'press release' indicates E190 but the timetable shows E70!!!
('nit-picking' I know!!)
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Just to clarify. There WILL be a single (early) saturday CPH-LCY service and the aircraft returns to CPH late on sunday. And yes, it will be an E170.
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any news of the PRG route?
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Old 29th Jul 2010, 09:57
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There was a rumour a month or so ago that BACF were looking at LCY - NCL. Is this route still under consideration? I would have thought that with EZY pulling out of NCL - STN at the end of October, there would be a lot of London bound passengers looking for alternative flights into London.
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Old 29th Jul 2010, 10:19
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I seem to remember that Eastern Airways had a short stab at LCY-Newcastle with a Jetstream in 2006, and it only lasted weeks before low/no bookings led to its demise. So if no luck with a Jetstream, what chance a new Embraer ?

Bizarrely the LCY website still has the press puff about its introduction !

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Old 29th Jul 2010, 11:50
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No NCL or PRG unfortunately. But more than happy with CPH.
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Old 29th Jul 2010, 12:56
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I seem to remember that Eastern Airways had a short stab at LCY-Newcastle with a Jetstream in 2006, and it only lasted weeks before low/no bookings led to its demise. So if no luck with a Jetstream, what chance a new Embraer ?
It ran from early 2006 through the summer season.

If memory serves, the figures failed to add up when the charging for 29 seaters was seen to be too high. A promising route ended at the end of the intial charging period when the new charges were seen to be unworkable. I believe the management was looking to move to larger aircraft and hence more passengers as the field maxed out at peak times.

I think it's good that LCY is gaining CPH on the new ERJ, but I doubt Cimber will hang around to compete aginst them given the better known SAS couldn't make it pay with the monopoly.
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I think it's good that LCY is gaining CPH on the new ERJ, but I doubt Cimber will hang around to compete aginst them given the better known SAS couldn't make it pay with the monopoly.
I never knew SAS did CPH as well. Then I find it a really surprising move. So what's so special about CPH then that BACF can make it work?
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