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Old 17th Dec 2007, 08:05
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Shall we just all wait for an official annoucement by either MAG or easyJet.

That would be far more informative - and possibly accurate - rather than taking the word of the MEN.
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Hot off the press from easyJet e-mail recipients:

Hi Everybody



Today we have announced a massive expansion of our operation in the North West of England, with more aircraft going into Liverpool John Lennon Airport (LPL) and the opening of a base in Manchester International Airport (MAN). This will make us the biggest airline operating in the North West, carrying four million passengers. This is fantastic news for easyJet, our guys at the LPL base and means we shall build upon the talent and customer base that GB Airways has established in MAN.



Our proposed purchase of GB Airways, which was announced in October, has given us the opportunity to expand faster in the North West. With the strength of the GB Airways operation in MAN and our long-established base in LPL, I am delighted to tell you that we have chosen to further invest in LPL and continue GB Airways’ successful MAN enterprise. These two principal airports in the North West have an enormous catchment area and by 2010 we shall have 5 aircraft in MAN and 10 in LPL.
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The full story from the MEN

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easyJet for Manchester launch

Dean Kirby
17/12/2007


BUDGET airline easyJet is to begin flights from Manchester as part of a massive expansion of its services in the north west.

Planes carrying the airline's famous orange and white logo are set to lift off for foreign destinations from the airport for the first time late March.

Bosses at easyJet say the move, which is subject to approval by regulators, will make it the north west's biggest operator.

By 2010 it aims to be carrying nearly four million people a year from the region including about 1.4m from Manchester to about 40 destinations.

The move, predicted by M.E.N Business in October, follows easyJet's swoop for GB Airways, which operated a British Airways franchise from Manchester.

The announcement also marks a massive coup for Manchester Airport chiefs , who have been in talks with the low-cost carrier.

Rowena Burns, commercial director of the Manchester Airports Group, said: "We have been talking to easyJet for two years, and they have been keen to start services for a while.

"They offer a fantastic range of services for passengers and they have always been impressed by the quality of our operation.

"Manchester Airport is the jewel in the crown of the North West's economy and this announcement reinforces our position as the premier airport outside London."

Ms Burns, who announced last week she is moving to a senior role in the private sector after more than a decade at MAG, added that easyJet coming to Manchester was "very special" and "very dear" to her heart.

GB Airways operates six routes from Manchester including Tenerife, Cyprus, Malta and Crete. It employs 79 staff at the airport and carries 290,000 passengers a year.

Its two planes based at Manchester would be re-branded in easyJet colours and three more aircraft would be added by the low-cost carrier by 2010.

GB Airways will continue to operate all routes under the British Airways brand until 29 March.

Then, subject to regulatory approval, the GB flights will start to operate under the easyJet brand.

All customers who have booked to travel with GB Airways next summer will be given the choice of flying with easyJet at the same times or else receive a refund.

Passengers are expected to see the biggest benefit next winter when these five aircraft are expected to starting tapping into the wider easyJet network.

GB Airways will be fully integrated into the easyJet business model by then, subject again to regulatory clearance.

Bosses at easyJet, founded by the entrepreneur Sir Stelios Haji-Ioannou, plan to carry up to 1.4m passengers a year from Manchester on about 15 routes by 2010.

They are also planning to increase the number of easyJet aircraft based at Liverpool John Lennon Airport from eight to ten over the next three years.

By then, easyJet will have 15 aircraft in total operating from Manchester and Liverpool, offering flights to the 8m people living within an hour's drive of the two airports. The airline hopes to provide a total of 4,000 jobs across the region following the expansion.

Mike Campbell, easyJet's people director, said the airline recognised the "strong demand" for low cost services from the North West.

He added: "The GB operation at Manchester provides us with a great base on which we can build to tap into a new market.

"easyJet remains committed to our base at Liverpool and, by launching additional operations from Manchester, we can make it even easier for everyone in the North West to access easyJet's services from their local airport, giving customers the opportunity to explore Europe for less."

Willie Walsh, BA's chief executive said in October that the company's franchise system had outlived its purpose and said the airline had turned down the chance to buy GB Airways.

BA will also end a similar arrangement with Loganair from next October and begin a codeshare agreement with the Scottish carrier.

Flybe acquired British Airways' regional airline business, BA Connect, in March this year.
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"Bosses at easyJet, founded by the entrepreneur Sir Stelios Haji-Ioannou, plan to carry up to 1.4m passengers a year from Manchester on about 15 routes by 2010"

Pretty much what Jet2 offer at the moment.

When you take into account the massive consolidation at MAN amongst the tour operators and throw in the fact the some of the 1.4m passengers will be existing GB, then in terms of net growth it will all be lost in the roundings. Worse still, it looks as if Peel aren't quite the mugs people think. Getting EZY to target Jet2's and bmibaby's key money routes at MAN and then picking up the surplus at LPL could be a master stroke.

Whichever ever way you cut it, EZY will have a bigger slice of the pie in the North West and less competition only ever leads to one thing. Less passenger choice and higher fares
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 10:40
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Originally Posted by Going loco
Getting EZY to target Jet2's and bmibaby's key money routes at MAN and then picking up the surplus at LPL could be a master stroke.
Agree with much of what you say, but how do you deduce that EZY will target LS/WW's key money routes? If the routes mentioned last week as being planned in addition to the ex GB routes are correct then there is little overlap. What will be interesting is the timetable for starting things up. It does sound as if there won't be much more than the GB routes next summer, but we shall see. It also sounds as if Peel's price for ignoring the exclusivity clause was LPL having at least double the EZY capacity compared to MAN.
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 11:07
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Looks like the lo-cost & lo-service days are over...

Stand by for high-cost & lo-service now EZY have a potential near monopoly on European flights.

This is a bad news for consumers as fares will rise due to lack of competition.

The futures $***€, now the futures orange.
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 12:17
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Another nugget in the MEN article that no-one's mentioned, so I will.

Rowena Burns, easily the largest and most effective brain of MAG's executive directors, is leaving for a senior role in the private sector.

Given her and her partner's close links with Mcr City Council, that worries me on behalf of passengers and airlines. She was always the council's "person on the inside" whose main job was to keep the idiots on track.

With her gone, the main shareholder loses that inside link.

With her gone, MAG loses a lot of talent and expertise.

With her gone, MAG slides further downhill.

Good luck Rowena. MAG will miss you.
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 14:24
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Taken from the RYR thread....

according to radio merseyside ryanair have called news conferences in both liverpool and manchester tomorrow (18/12) "to announce their largest ever expansion".

Unreal !!!
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 14:33
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From Manchester Evening News

Now Ryanair expand too

17/12/2007


RYANAIR, Europe’s largest budget airline, is set to announce a major expansion of its Manchester services.

The move by the Irish carrier comes hours after MEN Business broke the news that easyJet will begin operating out of Manchester early next year.

Dublin-based Ryanair, led by the charismatic and outspoken Michael O’Leary, currently operates flights to Dublin and Shannon from Manchester.

It is understood that the airline will be doubling the number of flights and launching new destinations in the coming months.

After the sale of BA’s Manchester-based regional airline BA Connect to low cost carrier Flybe this year, Manchester has become a major battleground for budget airlines.

In addition to exsisting players Flybe, Jet2, and bmibaby, the addition of easyJet and the expansion of Ryanair, will give passengers huge choice and should lead to ultra-competitive pricing.
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 14:37
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This is unbelievable......two major announcements within the space of 24 hours!!!!......keep em coming!!

Let the guessing game for the routes begin!!
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 15:36
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bbc radio manchester broadcasting from manchester airport - becky want 2pm wednesday
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 15:38
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Probally not ib16uk but when there is little choice you're forced to take whats on offer.....

However..... maybe Ryanair will come to the rescue and keep prices low (even though I'm even less of a fan of MOL)

I wonder if MAG told the EZY boys that MOL was waiting in the wings too?

Anyway, I suppose we need to play guess the routes now and take bets on who'll be around come xmas 2008.
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 16:10
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are they planning to base a/c ???
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 16:27
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Routes - nothing been mentioned...........will be interesting to see if EZY really DO keep the ex-GB services and it will be interesting to see which services FR will offer also, probably to destinations hundreds of miles away from the nearest shop but hey, its more destinations I suppose.
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 16:39
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I wonder if MAG told the EZY boys that MOL was waiting in the wings too?
If FR have already applied for slots, this will have been known to EZY and all the other airlines at the Slot Conference. Airlines often apply for slots to test the water and sometimes they get returned as they decide not to operate. Remember EZY a couple of years ago. Seems like FR had a back up in case the EZY scenario came about...

I reckon we will see FR operating in from European bases to start with but who knows what will happen in the future.

Rowena Burns, easily the largest and most effective brain of MAG's executive directors, is leaving for a senior role in the private sector.

Given her and her partner's close links with Mcr City Council, that worries me on behalf of passengers and airlines. She was always the council's "person on the inside" whose main job was to keep the idiots on track.

With her gone, the main shareholder loses that inside link.

With her gone, MAG loses a lot of talent and expertise.

With her gone, MAG slides further downhill.
ML

This news was in the MEN business pages last week. And who is to say that an another "inside link" isn't already in place?

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Old 17th Dec 2007, 19:18
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Well this is just great.

As the rumours that some of the worlds major intercontinetal airlines starting services subside, and they seem more like distant dreams every day, we are instead greeted with the news that not one but two LCC's are intending flooding MAN.

A very sad state of affairs indeed....
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 19:21
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I expect RYR will announce BRE MXP and more SNN services, but what do i know ??
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 19:30
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On the subject of Rowena Burns, this link, the transcript of when Geoff, Rowena and a.n.other presented evidence to Parliament's select committee on transport in 2003, shows how their prediction of the future turned out to be wrong, Wrong, WRONG!

5-6% growth every year, anyone?

If you fancy a laugh, read on.

http://www.publications.parliament.u...ii/3031912.htm
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 19:33
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Interesting move by FR, wonder whether this "announcement" tomorrow is simply expanding their services from Ireland into MAN or something more substantial?

Sounds like Easyjet are aiming to grow relatively steadily out of MAN going of what was announced today....... are FR going to steal the day?!
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Old 17th Dec 2007, 19:49
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GB crew at MAN have had the press release from today since Friday. We too expected more aircraft sooner however this is an "atleast" figure. For example MAN could have 5 aircraft next summer and 10 by the end of 2010. For the time being, EZY will be ok as they will be operating to completely different destinations. After next summer, things will be clearer and potentially very interesting.
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