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Old 11th Dec 2007, 18:39
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Nice to know you people get to find out info before me because I have no understanding of the A380's coming . Nice to see no one else can manage to come up with any more comments. And I believe that Manchester is not yet on the drop down list on the web site. Comment Back
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Old 11th Dec 2007, 18:49
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BJ999 whats going to happen with the GB routes, will they be operated or dropped. Also how many 319's are planned to be based, looking at your route list and frequencies looks like quite a few. Comment back
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BillyJoe999 you seem to be right about the dropdown, don't see Man there either...
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Old 11th Dec 2007, 19:03
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BillyJoe,

Seen as you are in ops can you tell me how you intend to oprate these schedules, will they all be based aircraft, if so how many... ??

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Old 11th Dec 2007, 19:31
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Like one or two others in the minority who have posted, I'm still a bit puzzled as to why so many people are convinced that EZY will be MAN's saviour and how great it will be for them to kick the a$$ of WW, LS, TOM, BE, ZB, etc. True, a few new destinations and ones which have fallen off the map would no doubt reappear with EZY and be welcomed, but many would surely be duplications of existing services (PMI, AGP, GVA, CDG, MXP, etc). With EZY's substantial clout when compared the most of the competition then no doubt some existing carriers will be forced to pull off routes or in time even pull out of MAN altogether should EZY's presence increase further, therefore reducing competition (which helps keep fares lower) and customer choice.

I'm certainly not anti-EZY by any means, and despite my username have no affiliation with Jet2 either, but I can't help wondering how many people here who are currently wishing for EZY to take over MAN and scoop up slots at the pace they have at LGW may end up turning around in 3 or 4 years time wishing that they still had a similar choice of options and carriers from MAN that they do at present.

An EZY operation at MAN could be great, but just not sure whether an ultimate domination of shorthaul, as some have desired, is the best longterm outcome for MAN.
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No one has mentioned total domination. A sizable operation would be good for MAN and the EZY/GB staff though.

In response to a previous posters question............Should EZY open MAN the GB routes will remain until atleast the end of Summer 08.
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Old 11th Dec 2007, 19:42
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Sorry to break up all the excitement, just to answer a question posted by END BAG, Menzies have been awarded the TCX/MYT contract at MAN for passenger handling and ramp and this will commence at the beginning of the summer schedule.

Right, back to the fun & games...
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Old 11th Dec 2007, 19:47
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BillyJoe999 your not related to easymanager by any chance he too was full of st......
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Old 11th Dec 2007, 20:53
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I think if BJ999 turns out to be correct, you all owe him a major apology! How can you say this is not true?! Obviously they are not going to start all these routes literally overnight! I would suspect, if this is true, that the airline would begin in Feb 08 and slowly increase to full schedule by season change at the end of March.
The date is the 18th of Feb.
LGW x4
MXP x3
CDG x3
TLS x2
MAD x2
GVA x2
PMI x2
HAM x2
CGN x2
RAK x2
AGP x2
26 Departures and Arrivals A Day. We are also in negotiations with Monarch to see if we could purchase there hangar for maintanance work on the Airbus 319 that will be operated out of MAN.
Thanks Joe Downie (EasyJet Ops.)


If working off of these routes I would guess three aircraft to be based at the airport for:
TLS, PMI, HAM, CGN, RAK and AGP by MAN based.
Guessing the rest would be either from the other bases or a mix of both. Would be very surprised to see EZY go 2x daily on RAK though! LGW a surprise! With BA moving more long haul to LHR there may be less demand on the LGW and with competition may mean the airline will pull even more from MAN!

It also continues to amaze me that so many people are so keen to see EZY start ops at MAN without any apparent concern as to the inevitable damage this will / would cause to the existing operators such as WW, TOM, LS and BE,


TOM and BE won't be bothered too much by this. BE are mainly UK from MAN but the foreign flights may come undr some pressure. TOM, TCX etc. won't really give a monkeys! They are now starting to go back to their roots in the charter market with more long haul routes. The Spanish and Canary routes may be effected but going to the East med/Egypt where EZY don't venture, why bother?!
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Old 11th Dec 2007, 20:57
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I just am not convinced by what I read. We will have to wait and see.
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Old 11th Dec 2007, 21:00
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If EZY complete the purchase of GBairways, I would imagine that the Canaries, Cyprus and Egypt maybe on the orange menu...that might have an effect on TOM/TUi etc

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Old 11th Dec 2007, 21:01
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They will be on the EZY menu for certain this summer ex LGW (and MAN if they open a base here). The question is, will they continue with these routes after summer? Watch this space.
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Old 11th Dec 2007, 21:22
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I thought from previous posts that Bfs was to be one of the routes ex man. Has that changed or will it come later?

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Old 11th Dec 2007, 21:46
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Of course EZY would be welcome to plug the gaps in the MAN routes. However, why HAM x 2 ? when we have Lufthansa & Air Berlin both operating daily & why CGN x 2 when we have HLX ?
If EZY push onto these routes I'd expect AB & HLX to pull off these routes pronto.
We dont want duplications to what we already have, when we have no services at all to MAD, OPO , BIO, TLL, RIX, SVO, SXF, BGO, BBU,SVQ.
If there has to be any duplication, then BCN is probably the obvious.
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Old 11th Dec 2007, 22:03
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MXP 3 x daily, HAM 2 x daily, CGN 2 x daily, doesn't sound at all like EZY to fly double daily on these routes??
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Old 11th Dec 2007, 22:13
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Well it seems that Christmas will come early as EZY will announce MAN base, I think that this was the obvious choice for EZY for some time. EZYs commentary with results was Low cost with care and Convenience, and it MAN would fit well with this comment, picking a primary airport (convenience).

I would be very doubtful of some of the frequencies on some of the suggested routes:
MXP x3????
CDG x3??????
TLS x2????
MAD x2
GVA x2
PMI x2
HAM x2
CGN x2
RAK x2????????????
AGP x2


I would suggest that RAK will be 3 per week if at all!
MXP maybe one per day... TLS maybe 1 per day.... CGN def not more than 1 per day.


I heard rumour that IOM will come onto the EZY radar in the near future... so where would be the obviuos destination.. I would have said LPL, so maybe MAN.

If EZY do set up shop at MAN i reckon that they have their sights set on Jet2. Jet2 threaded on EZYs toes at BFS and now EZY have followed them onto some of their routes. So given the negatives stuff around about Jet2 I think EZY will settle an old score!

Should be fun all this competition! Low prices etc!
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Old 12th Dec 2007, 08:31
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Come on you asked for comments.......How many based aircraft and will all the services be operated by based aircraft......if not where will the additional aircraft be based and in what pattern will they be operating.....

Being based in Easyjet ops this info will be right at the end of your fingertips.

Unless of course you are telling little white lies....but i dont think that for one minute

Time to prove me wrong ???

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Old 12th Dec 2007, 09:14
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Thank you flyZB for your reply.
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Old 12th Dec 2007, 12:23
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On reading the posts on this and other threads I am beginning to think that the delay on the EZY announcement (whatever it is) may be much closer to home than we think. Could it be that MAPlc are still thinking whether or not they want EZY or and argument on fees etc. I have no knowledge just a thought.

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Old 12th Dec 2007, 13:30
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I really can't see that being the case. MAplc have snubbed EZY before but that was at a time when they thought that MAN was too good for easyJet and they were relying heavily on carriers such as BA to expand. Since then, the legacy carriers have moved out and I think even the pompous board realise that the arrival of easyJet is good news. Sure, they would rather welcome the likes of Cathay, Thai etc as these airlines create more revenue for the airport in terms of requiring peak slots and attracting more money spending passengers but the airport are perfectly aware that there have been problems with getting these airlines in. I've no doubt in my mind that behind the scenes they've been trying to get more legacy carriers into MAN but to no avail. Anyone on the board with any sense will realise that the arrival of easyJet will help to snatch back a few passengers from LPL and help to expand the airports route network. Plus, they welcomed WW & LS with open arms so I don't think this will be any different.
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