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Old 28th Sep 2008, 09:29
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Emirates DXB-NCL service is said to have been the airlines most success new route to date

Can we stop this urban myth here and now? Who said it and when? Think this quote is more accurate...

Vic Sheppard, Emirates Vice President for UK and Ireland, said: “Given that it has been a challenging time for the entire airline industry, we are delighted to have received such strong support from the North East travelling public. We’ve seen some of our best-ever figures for a UK route launch, despite operating through some tough times.

This from September, around the time of the first anniversary.
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 09:50
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"some of our best-ever figures for a UK route launch"

The message is in the spin and the word "some". They said it about BHX, then abour GLA - and I'm sure they would have said it about MAN when that route started.

"Some" doesn't suggest it was better than one of the top three!

Thinking back, marketing speak for a route thats struggling is something along the lines of "bookings are good, but there are plenty of seats available"! For a new base operation that is not going quite as well as planned "we have been overwhelmed by the response - and are offering "x" number of seats for £ 1.00 to celerate" (they mean to put bums on empty seats).
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 10:06
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Emirates DXB-NCL service is said to have been the airlines most success new route to date

Can we stop this urban myth here and now? Who said it and when? Think this quote is more accurate...

Vic Sheppard, Emirates Vice President for UK and Ireland, said: “Given that it has been a challenging time for the entire airline industry, we are delighted to have received such strong support from the North East travelling public. We’ve seen some of our best-ever figures for a UK route launch, despite operating through some tough times.

This from September, around the time of the first anniversary.
With great respect to those in and around NCL, I very much doubt whether the front end of the aircraft is very busy, except with upgrades. This is a perennial problem from provincial airports, and the principal reason why BA stopped the MAN-JFK service.
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 10:44
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Apologies for the thread drift, but from the same article:

between 20% and 25% of all those travelling were business-class passengers

Also, NCL does seem to get a relatively high proportion of A330's in the low density configuration (i.e. fewer cheap seats, more expensive ones!) but no idea if this due to demand or other operational reasons.
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 12:46
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I very much doubt whether the front end of the aircraft is very busy, except with upgrades
I think that you may be mistaken
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 17:55
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Source? I assume you are the revenus manager for Emirates? Because that's the only way we'll ever know.....
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Old 29th Sep 2008, 15:12
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Can we get back to DTVA its getting like Tyne Tees news!
What's next Newcastle United football club. NO! we don't want to know!

I hear ICS are moving out, who's going to do the cleaning and put the pies in the plastic trays? Job share for marketing?
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Old 1st Oct 2008, 10:08
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No GSM flights today...bad omen?
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Old 1st Oct 2008, 10:14
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Calm down!

Just look at the website timetable and you'll see that last Wednesday was the last AGP operating on a Wednesday for this summer. At least until November anyway. So nothing to read into chaps. As for the question of beyond Jan 09; well we are still waiting....
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Old 1st Oct 2008, 12:05
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If the GSM meeting did take place at the back end of last week, you'd think if the outcome was positive we'd have heard something by now?
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Old 1st Oct 2008, 15:31
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Think the hold up is that GSM are at this moment in time GSM aren't sure weather to keep the 733's or not. These being the a/c that will ither aty or leave MME!
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Why was there an Eastern coming in from Norwich tonight?
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Old 1st Oct 2008, 20:53
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Must have been a sick Jetstream 41, as the usually direct NWI-ABZ flight (Saab 2000) routed via MME to pick up pax for ABZ.
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Old 2nd Oct 2008, 15:47
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Sick aeroplane in Donegal apparently so the J41 that landed in ABZ fromMME had to go there to rescue the poor girl
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Old 3rd Oct 2008, 13:08
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Edited extract from today’s Northern Echo Business News.

AIRLINE Ryanair has said it is “fully committed” to Durham Tees Valley Airport (DTVA) and is happy with how its routes are performing. Ryanair follows KLM – which flies three times daily to Amsterdam’s Schiphol Airport – in pledging its allegiance to the airport.
DTVA has recently been hit by announcements from holiday company Thomson, which said that from next year it would no longer operate its route to Alicante, while Hungarian carrier Wizz Air also cancelled flights to the Polish capital Warsaw.
Low cost carrier flyglobespan, which flies to Tenerife, Faro, Malaga, Alicante, Palma and Jersey, has also been forced to deny reports of a pull-out.
Ashley Casey, sales and marketing executive for Ryanair in the UK and Ireland, said: “There has been a lot of speculation and reports about a number of airlines reducing frequencies or pulling out of Durham Tees Valley Airport. “We have no intention of reducing our flights from the airport. We remain fully committed to DTVA.”

Strange that within the space of a week a second airline feels it necessary to pledge an undying love for operating from DTVA?
An analogy with a football club Chairman trotting out the usual public ‘vote of confidence’ in the manager just before they’re either sacked or moved elsewhere?
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Old 3rd Oct 2008, 16:33
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I wonder how they explain Gerona RYR finishing soon, or have I slipped up and you can now book it.
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Old 6th Oct 2008, 17:06
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Understand that GRO is seasonal i.e. planned to be suspended for the winter rather than 'dropped' and should return for summer '09.
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Old 6th Oct 2008, 18:52
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SWBKCB, I sure hope you're right about GRO!

With regards to airlines such as KLM and Ryanair publicly commiting themselves to DTVA, and then people on here comparing them to football Chairmen giving Managers votes of confidence just before sacking them, why would they do it? I just don't understand the reasons? Surely if you say you're going to stay, then you're going to stay?!
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Old 6th Oct 2008, 18:54
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FR Girona service

If true, thats good news about the girona service returning. Definately better news than most at the moment!!

Does anyone know why KLM seem to be cancelling so many flights of late? Poor loads and pooling services or have there been problems with the ageing fokker fleet?
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Old 6th Oct 2008, 19:06
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Yes good news on the Gerona service - the loads in August were up on last year but that may have been due to more flights in 2008 than 2007 or some other reason I don't know (haven't checked it).

As for KL cancelling flights - seems they are having major problems with the Fokker 70's and 100's. Only a few days ago the 1534 departed just after the 1538 after the 1533 having arrived on time! That was a Fokker 70 that went tech upon arrival here. It seems they can't go a day without a delay, cancellation or substitution at the moment, todays 1533/4 was a 100 instead of a 70 for example.
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