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Old 9th Jun 2012, 18:13
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Was ACE with FR 2 weekly last winter? From late Oct its 2 weekly.
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Old 9th Jun 2012, 18:22
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ORK-DUB might work morning and evening on say a 30 odd seater or less? Maybe some of the more far flung connections say etihad type stuff would be usefull.
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Old 9th Jun 2012, 18:24
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Express bus service €22 return, 3 hours from Patricks Quay to Bachelors Quay Dublin, about the same as flying when you take into account checking in etc.
Well I used to get fares from about €19.99 inclusive from Cork to Dublin used online check-in and had a 10kg carry on bag for the weekend. Home to Bewleys Newlands Cross - 2hrs. Id rather much fly anytime then drive.

There have been rumours of EI looking for slots for a 5th ORK-LHR rotation and 4th SNN-LHR
I've heard about the 5th daily Cork the increased Shannon flights is news to me, and defiantly would be covered by the Shannon based aircraft so need for a W-route. A 5th aircraft could cover 4 weekly Brussels (or possibly daily if current trends continue), new Frankfurt service and the lunchtime 5th daily Heathrow, increased existing flights could cover the morning slots.

To go from 11 services a day between the 2 cities to 0 flights in the space of a few years is ridiculous.
Precisely, are market defiantly remains.

Was ACE with FR 2 weekly last winter? From late Oct its 2 weekly.
Nope increased beyond October.
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Old 9th Jun 2012, 20:28
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I wonder is AGP with FR gone for winter? Its not loaded. Hopefully it will be soon!
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Old 9th Jun 2012, 21:16
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I wonder is AGP with FR gone for winter? Its not loaded. Hopefully it will be soon!
Doubt that, lots of routes aren't for sale. We should know exactly whats happening in late June/early July.
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Cool! Thanks!
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Old 10th Jun 2012, 19:13
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Few Lourdes charters tomorrow arriving/departing, from what I can see on corkairport.ie we have Thomas Cook Belgium and Transavia operating them.
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Cork Airport rampage suspect goes on trial

Was wondering what had actually happened to this case, finally proceedings are underway into this disgraceful and bizarre incident, One in which the Gardai should be totally ashamed of themselves.

Man on trial for Cork Airport incidents - RT News

High Quality footage of Cork Airport rampage
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 20:09
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EIR have stopped flying to Cork this afternoon why?
all other flights unaffected even contract ATR from SNN landed with
no problems what an airline if they are not late they stop flying
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 20:23
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EIR have stopped flying to Cork this afternoon why?
all other flights unaffected even contract ATR from SNN landed with
no problems what an airline if they are not late they stop flying
Weather Francis, there was a direct crosswind at peak from the East at 34kts today just 1kt below the ATR limit this was the reason the majority diverted messing up the schedule for the airline. Also the majority of the aircraft needed for the evening rush 7pm -> 7:30pm are not in their correct positions and crew maybe out of hours to return the aircraft to Cork (All 3 diverted to Shannon). Also just to add to that the weather when I was there around 6 this evening was very bad heavy rain reducing visibility.
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 20:45
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the Bri and Man flights decided to op direct to SNN did not even call cork when the wind had died down to 20 kts
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 22:10
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the Bri and Man flights decided to op direct to SNN did not even call cork when the wind had died down to 20 kts
Have no idea why they operated those kind of rotations just checking the weather now its around 20kts from the East so well inside the range although visibility is still limited.
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 22:47
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Bri you presumably mean Bristol (BRS) ?

Whatever decision the airline made at the time was up to them, no solution is going to be ideal and a number of passengers will be inconvenienced. The options are to cancel, wait for passengers to be bussed from ORK to SNN or go empty and hope to get into ORK with the return load. Previously EIR kept people waiting round for ours only to cancel flights at the last minute (typically around midnight, agter 3-4 hours of delays) when crew were put of hours and there were no options for reaccomodation. At least by cancelling early the team on the ground can get working on reaccomodating passengers as soon as possible and minimising disruption/discomfort.
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Old 15th Jun 2012, 00:05
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i'm sure its fairly obvious he mean't bristol why ask such a question other than to look clever. ours is spelt hours if we want to start that game.
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Old 15th Jun 2012, 09:12
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I think it is important that if we are going to use three letter abbreviations for airports that we use the correct ones. Sometimes you see CRK used for Cork, which is obviously wrong. Francis is new to the board, I was pointing out an error, simple as that. As it happens there are two airports in Bristol, BRS and Filton, which is the airbus site, I believe. Neither of which have BRI as their code, that's Bari in Italy, according to Wikipedia!

Interesting news this morning that rumors surrounding Aer Lingus moving Belfast operations form the International to City may have had some substance. BBC NI reports that the move could see an increase in UK regional destinations. I would have thought flyBe has most, if not all of those sewn up, but I suppose it might increase chances of Cork-Belfast being linked once again.
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Old 15th Jun 2012, 09:41
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There will need to be an ATR-42 in one of the locations for that to work.

There have been enough flights on Cork-Belfast that we have some idea of the economics of the route and the ATR-72 is just too big.

An ATR-42 in Cork might make a bit of sense. In addition to Belfast, it could allow for increased frequencies on the Bristol route, which could take double daily on weekdays in the ATR-42, but probably only Monday and Friday if you're putting on an ATR-72.

Other than picking off the routes already operated (if that's the right word) by Manx2 at Belfast, I can't see that it makes as much sense to have one based there.
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Old 15th Jun 2012, 12:28
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Aer Arann Diversions Yesterday

I agree with Francis, the late evening diversions and cancellations were unneccessary as the wind dropped well below limits. Pilots and operational staff should note that weather forecasts at Cork in relation to wind, low cloud and even Snow have proven to be very unreliable over the years. I'm not sure whether this is due to its hilltop position, proximity to the sea or some other reason. It's always worth waiting for the actual weather before making a decision.

I have frequently heard forecasts of 200m Fog and then it turns out to be 10km. Similar with wind strenght. It seems yesterday's decisions were based on forecasts of wind strenghts that never materialised.
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Old 15th Jun 2012, 14:31
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I think it improved considerably as the evening wore on. I know the dilemma that airlines face when dealing with the vagaries of the Cork Weather. In general Aerlingus which is the biggest user of the airport tend to adopt a wait and see approach and it generally pays off. It also calls into question the purpose of 25/07 and its usefulness at this stage. It's too short for all operators apart from Aer Arann and they only use it when the weather is good. Hard to believe that it was used almost as often as 17 during good weather in the 1960's.
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Old 15th Jun 2012, 17:34
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Would be great to see Aer Lingus Regional basing another ATR in Cork and recommencing flights to Dublin, Belfast and one of the London airports not served..Luton, London City or even Southend would be superb!
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I think a third ATR is definately possible, not sure it would be to DUB, BHD or the London airports, although I agree they would seem likely on the face of it. however LGW has never performed as well as I would have expected for EI, switching to an ATR or to SEN may help, but the overlap between SEN and STN may be too great for Cork? Other destinations mentioned by Mr Muller were specifically EMA (being launched by Ryanair in a few weeks) and Leeds/Bradford, I guess Aberdeen might be another reasonable route, but probably not daily. After that obvious destinations are a bit thin on the ground, maybe Cardiff, perhaps Southampton/Plymouth/Exeter? I think most of these have been tried in the fairly recent past by one airline or another, some more than once. Maybe the EI/RE partnership can alter the dynamics a bit.
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