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Can't imagine them not being allowed use the T9 route. FAO probably very busy on Saturday's. Evening Echo reporting that Britains' Queen Elizabeth is to fly into Cork Airport on 20th May on the last day of her state visit to Ireland.
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would there be a bit of an April Fool's thing going on there with E II coming to ORK on her last day. Today NOC reported to be the destination of William and Kate for the first leg of their honeymoon ........
Nothing wrong with ORK or NOC before I receive a barrage.
Nothing wrong with ORK or NOC before I receive a barrage.
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No it definetely isn't an April Fools Joke. Not too surprising given that she's likely to spend 3 nights in the Country. I presume she'll return to the UK from Cork if the visit here is on her last day.
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FEDEX operate with an ATR every weeknight routing SNN ORK CDG. Bluebird (UPS) left in early 2009 shortly after DHL and TNT left. A combination of better road infrastructure and the recession blamed but Cork's lack of designated Cargo stands and subsequent high charges can't have helped. No problem finding parking for biz jets now lads!
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Passenger traffic continued to show a sharp decline during March. April should see an improvement due to the later Easter and the 2010 Volcanic Ash
factor. However there is still no sign that the underlying trend since late 2008 is being reversed.
factor. However there is still no sign that the underlying trend since late 2008 is being reversed.
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Ryanair will cut Alicante from October as part of a wider reduction at Alicante due a disagreement with AENA. Wasn't this seasonal anyway?
Ryanair to Slash Alicante Base by 80% This Winter
Other Irish routes are affected as well but again it's a mix of announcing massive cuts from October onwards and normal seasonal reductions.
Ryanair to Slash Alicante Base by 80% This Winter
Other Irish routes are affected as well but again it's a mix of announcing massive cuts from October onwards and normal seasonal reductions.
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Cork - ALC was never planned to operate year round. The press release is just making the reduction at ALC a lot bigger than it is. They should be comparing this winter with last winter and not this summer with this winter.
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Tomas,
All 146's are Cat 2 capable.
Not all are maintained to this standard, and M.E.L items may make
an otherwise Cat2 aircraft only Cat 1 capable on the day.
The 146 was the first 4 engined jet not to require a flight engineer.
It has no autopilot input into the rudder, hence is not Cat 3.
But the Avro RJ has, and is.
(It does a lovely rudder input to kick off the drift at about 20 feet,
could hardly believe it when demonstrated in the BAe sim in woodford
all those years ago.)
All 146's are Cat 2 capable.
Not all are maintained to this standard, and M.E.L items may make
an otherwise Cat2 aircraft only Cat 1 capable on the day.
The 146 was the first 4 engined jet not to require a flight engineer.
It has no autopilot input into the rudder, hence is not Cat 3.
But the Avro RJ has, and is.
(It does a lovely rudder input to kick off the drift at about 20 feet,
could hardly believe it when demonstrated in the BAe sim in woodford
all those years ago.)
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Dublin route returning to profit?
I went away last weekend, and the outbound flight from Cork to Dublin on Saturday morning had a 75% load factor which i think is tremendous for a domestic one, the inbound on Monday was i would say ruffly around 70% anyone able to confirm this (the route has returned to profit) ?
Also my source in SNN has informed me that EI are dropping SNN-CDG at the end of the summer season following poor performance. So thats good news in away for Cork with extra rotations, but i would hold my breath as the Summer season isint quite underway fully yet
Also my source in SNN has informed me that EI are dropping SNN-CDG at the end of the summer season following poor performance. So thats good news in away for Cork with extra rotations, but i would hold my breath as the Summer season isint quite underway fully yet
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fivejuliet, if you read my post as i pointed out i wasnt, simply stating what i had been told. Also it could be understood if loads where down but EI did state clearly to SNN managment that if the new SNN-CDG route affected the performance of the ORK-CDG route it would be pulled, so maybe thats another factor, i was always lead to believe though ORK-CDG was performing v.well thats why its been daily for years since it began in 1999 i think?
Jamie2k9, last month EI management were down with the CAA discussing exactly that, no word as of yet do. Also a few around Cork where saying that the 4th A/C maybe back to operate ex LGW also e.g. to retain the daily LGW-ORK & LGW-SNN routes (LGW will be 2x A/C again), but these are only rumours (4th A/C).
Jamie2k9, last month EI management were down with the CAA discussing exactly that, no word as of yet do. Also a few around Cork where saying that the 4th A/C maybe back to operate ex LGW also e.g. to retain the daily LGW-ORK & LGW-SNN routes (LGW will be 2x A/C again), but these are only rumours (4th A/C).
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I obviously read your post otherwise I would not have read what you said
Anyway, with all due respect, do you honestly think that route is doing anywhere near as well as it used to? Extra rotations would be folly- if SNN is doing as bad as you claim then those customers would be easily accommodated on existing ORK rotations.
Anyway, with all due respect, do you honestly think that route is doing anywhere near as well as it used to? Extra rotations would be folly- if SNN is doing as bad as you claim then those customers would be easily accommodated on existing ORK rotations.
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CDG has never really reached its full potential from SNN or ORk. It's a huge airport with connections to every part of the globe but for some reason it doesn't have the same appeal as Heathrow or Schiphol as a convenient hub.
Shannon Paris was always a marginal route for Aerlingus and has been dropped several times in the past.
Shannon Paris was always a marginal route for Aerlingus and has been dropped several times in the past.
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I reckon the fact there's a BA codeshare on the Heathrow flight and a KLM codeshare on the Amsterdam flight plays a big part there. Try to book a connection on the Air France website and it isn't there. You have to book a travel agent.
In fact, if you try to book on Air France, there's a good chance they'll send you from CDG via AMS.
In fact, if you try to book on Air France, there's a good chance they'll send you from CDG via AMS.
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Any route to a hub like CDG needs to be daily or close to daily if it is to work in the long term. I was hopefull that if loads were promising that EI would up the frequency of SNN to CDG to 5 or 6 a week. They were merely testing the route with a 3 times weekly service and it sounds like it failed.