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Ryanair have loaded the winter timetables for Liverpool, Gatwick and Stansted.
Some notes
Liverpool: Daily MTWT-S-, Twice Daily ----F-S. A Liverpool aircraft will operate one of the two Friday morning flights, the Saturday flight, and both Sunday flights, all other Liverpool flights will be operated by a Cork based aircraft.
Stansted: A Stansted based aircraft will operate the daily morning flight. A Cork based aircraft will operate the evening flight Monday through Friday. Strange to see no evening flights on Saturday and especially Sunday.
Gatwick: For a change the flights on Saturday and Sunday will be late afternoon flights.
I predict the following utilisation for the Cork based aircraft
Mon: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Tue: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Wed: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Thu: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Fri: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Sat: Lanzarote, Gatwick, Dublin
Sun: Tenerife, Gatwick, Dublin
Even if a Dublin based aircraft operates a couple of extra rotations on the Cork to Dublin route we are still facing a significant reduction in Ryanair services compared to last winter
Just another quick comment about Aer Lingus' winter schedule.
Gatwick is showing as a mere once daily afternoon flight. It has been twice daily since starting this summer. What's more, it will be operated by a Cork based aircraft M-W-F-S and by a Gatwick based aircraft -T-T-S- That would see the Gatwick based aircraft visiting Cork 11 times less per week than it has been this summer This is certainly not the way to win the battle with Ryanair on this route. I was dubious about them starting it in the first place, but if they're not gonna make a proper go of it, they should just abandon it completely and use the Cork aircraft to fly M-W-F-S to Brussels for example 
Anyway, early days I suppose, all these schedules are likely to chop and change, and they still seem to be in the process of loading them, so wait and see.
Some notes
Liverpool: Daily MTWT-S-, Twice Daily ----F-S. A Liverpool aircraft will operate one of the two Friday morning flights, the Saturday flight, and both Sunday flights, all other Liverpool flights will be operated by a Cork based aircraft.
Stansted: A Stansted based aircraft will operate the daily morning flight. A Cork based aircraft will operate the evening flight Monday through Friday. Strange to see no evening flights on Saturday and especially Sunday.
Gatwick: For a change the flights on Saturday and Sunday will be late afternoon flights.
I predict the following utilisation for the Cork based aircraft
Mon: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Tue: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Wed: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Thu: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Fri: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Sat: Lanzarote, Gatwick, Dublin
Sun: Tenerife, Gatwick, Dublin
Even if a Dublin based aircraft operates a couple of extra rotations on the Cork to Dublin route we are still facing a significant reduction in Ryanair services compared to last winter
Just another quick comment about Aer Lingus' winter schedule.
Gatwick is showing as a mere once daily afternoon flight. It has been twice daily since starting this summer. What's more, it will be operated by a Cork based aircraft M-W-F-S and by a Gatwick based aircraft -T-T-S- That would see the Gatwick based aircraft visiting Cork 11 times less per week than it has been this summer
This is certainly not the way to win the battle with Ryanair on this route. I was dubious about them starting it in the first place, but if they're not gonna make a proper go of it, they should just abandon it completely and use the Cork aircraft to fly M-W-F-S to Brussels for example Anyway, early days I suppose, all these schedules are likely to chop and change, and they still seem to be in the process of loading them, so wait and see.
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Thats not going to happen the reason both have severly reduced service (e.g DUB was the golden route for RE 11 X daily in 2007) between ORK & DUB combined with the ressession, cheap bus & rail trips & the improvement of the now M8 to Dublin which cut road journeys by up to 50 minutes.
For RE to step its service on DUB would be a supprise but i do think an increase to double daily is needed!
For RE to step its service on DUB would be a supprise but i do think an increase to double daily is needed!
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The way Aer Arann can compete on this route versus people flying with Ryanair or taking the train or driving on the new motorway is to offer more onwards connections through Dublin. The more connections they offer to/from Cork, the more passengers will use their service.
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I have to agree too, surely booking onwards connections is a good thing. What happens now is someone wants to fly, to say, FRAfrom ORK with luggage? Ryanair to DUB, collect luggage and then checkin again, or is it via LHR or AMS?
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No matter how many connections are offered by RE/EI it is still cheaper in most cases to fly via LHR. Aer Lingus remain the most expensive option to fly to the US from all points in Ireland (and the UK for that matter).
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What a rubbish statement fruitnfibre, Aer lingus are not cheap but they are nearly always cheaper than going via LHR, Not to mention via LHR is close to 3 hours longer one way to the states.
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Not true, EI have over the last 6-8 months the most expensive way to get from US to Ireland. And believe me I know, I almost fly back home once a month. Going via LHR and AMS have become a much cheaper option for me along with the fact that I can fly any day I want and not restricted to 4 days a week on the BOS-SNN route.
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FR winter schedule
I predict the following utilisation for the Cork based aircraft
Mon: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Tue: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Wed: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Thu: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Fri: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Sat: Lanzarote, Gatwick, Dublin
Sun: Tenerife, Gatwick, Dublin
Mon: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Tue: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Wed: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Thu: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Fri: Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick, Dublin, Stansted
Sat: Lanzarote, Gatwick, Dublin
Sun: Tenerife, Gatwick, Dublin
And as for the utilisation of that Cork based aircraft, the above prediction seems to be true now except Lanzarote on Saturday morning isn't confirmed yet, and the utilisation Sunday morning isn't known yet, but I'm guessing it'll be one of the other Canary islands...
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It would be bizarre to consider that there may be no Sunday night Stansted Cork flight from Ryanair. Pure madness. Then again, they may be the authors of their own destruction in cutting off their nose despite their face? In my opinion the Cork Stansted market would be better served by an early morning departure from Cork with a locally originating aeroplane around 7 am and in the evening a Stansted aeroplane to Cork around 7 pm. On the one hand wanting to punish airports for not wanting to give in and play the Ryanair game by cutting or ending services and then at the same time losing market shart hardly adds up. It seems to be they want it everyway. Too many 189 seaters out there to fill too, of course. It must be much harder to manage the yield satisfactorily on such a bigger aeroplane compared to easier to fill 100/120 seaters.
They must be at sixes and sevens on so many of their less attractive routes not that I would dare for a moment include Cork International on such a list!
Oh, well.
They must be at sixes and sevens on so many of their less attractive routes not that I would dare for a moment include Cork International on such a list!
Oh, well.
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liffy,
I've no idea how often you travel long haul but I am a regular enough visitor to the US East Coast. On any of my fares in the last 12months, Aer Lingus have been significantly higher than what I have paid to BA. The only thing that keeps me sane when having to fly East to then go West is typically a 200-400€ price differential that I would have to pay if flying through Dublin with Aer Lingus.
I want to fly from Cork and I would like to fly with Aer Lingus but quite frankly their fares and their level of service are at opposite ends of the spectrum compared to all others.
Even if you look at fares to the US direct from Ireland over the next three months, I guarantee you AL will be the most expensive option on most routes.
I'm not an AL basher, far from it, but this ain't no packet of biscuits you're buying from the corner shop. Its typically a ten hour travel experience costing several hundred Euro.... and I don't mind shopping around for the privilege.
I've no idea how often you travel long haul but I am a regular enough visitor to the US East Coast. On any of my fares in the last 12months, Aer Lingus have been significantly higher than what I have paid to BA. The only thing that keeps me sane when having to fly East to then go West is typically a 200-400€ price differential that I would have to pay if flying through Dublin with Aer Lingus.
I want to fly from Cork and I would like to fly with Aer Lingus but quite frankly their fares and their level of service are at opposite ends of the spectrum compared to all others.
Even if you look at fares to the US direct from Ireland over the next three months, I guarantee you AL will be the most expensive option on most routes.
I'm not an AL basher, far from it, but this ain't no packet of biscuits you're buying from the corner shop. Its typically a ten hour travel experience costing several hundred Euro.... and I don't mind shopping around for the privilege.
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I fly several times a year from Cork to the US via Dublin and have always got great fares with Aer Lingus. Sometimes I book the flight from Cork on the Aer Lingus website with the Aer Arann connection from Cork or sometimes book a Ryanair flight seperately due to their cheap fares. Usually compare fares with flying through Heathrow and have got cheaper fares through Dublin and not having the hassle of connecting through Heathrow. I also prefer flying Aer Lingus than any of the US airlines, much friendlier hosties on Aer Lingus
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You must be flying a different Aer Lingus to one I'm thinking of because the last time I flew long-haul with them they were cheap yeh, but their service was shockin and the crew were the most obnoxious people I've ever come across.