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Old 20th Oct 2010, 16:12
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Not the most reliable source but Wikipedia update shows Europe Airpost operating NOC-FAO charter from May 2011 with a 733. This was operated by Monarch this year.

Good to see the charters holding up given FR now operating 4x weekly and the loss of several travel agents. No winter sun/ski charter from NOC this year though.
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Old 20th Oct 2010, 16:20
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Not the most reliable source but Wikipedia update shows Europe Airpost operating NOC-FAO charter from May 2011 with a 733. This was operated by Monarch this year.
Europe Airpost will be operating it next year as they have smaller a/c than MOM.
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Old 22nd Oct 2010, 22:18
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Ya seen that MON done well yo maintain 90% lf on FAO despite 4 week service with ryanair to inevitable they would reduce to smaller aircraft ti maximise yield, no winter sun yet from knock but ive heard rumours so watch this space
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Anybody have any idea as to new routes for noc for summer 2011.I personally would hope for malaga and edinburgh from ryanair. As I have said before a 3/4 weekly from edi would definitely work and passenger numbers are growing on the galway edi route all beit with an edi snn route on the doorstep.

Consideing the success of last summers fr continental routes I think a 3weekly to malaga would be well supported.I see the dublin flight is cancelled a lot lately I presume pax numbers are pretty poor like the rest of the pso routes these days.
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 14:24
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Topflight are to start package hoildays to Italy from Knock.
Flights between Knock - Verona
From 4 June - 20 August.
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 16:57
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Great news .I think it is cityjet who normally operates this route for topflight .My bets are still on edinburgh and Malaga and possibly lanzarote if Ryanair announce it as a base according to a previous post for summer 2011. Anybody know if sunway are returning with a lanzarote charter this year.
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 19:48
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SNN-EDI was dropped last month, and NOC was rumoured but the UK route cuts after the travel tax may have held back route announcements. Irish travel tax may be dropped soon so that should lead to more FR routes.
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Old 26th Nov 2010, 08:25
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Sunway confirmed for ACE next year - on sale on their website
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Old 26th Nov 2010, 20:49
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Anybody know if sunway are returning with a lanzarote charter this year.
Yes bookable now. Air Europa will operate it on Saturdays.
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Old 27th Nov 2010, 10:29
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Apron, taxiway and access road resurfacing underway at the moment. Pax being bussed from apron B. Shame the apron hasn't been extended, it could become a pressure point very quickly if there were to be route growth in the future.
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Old 28th Nov 2010, 12:28
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Hi P.S.O. to and from dublin cancel a lot latley.
I take it that it is poor pax number or is it weather related?
Was to fly to day and cancel again
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 08:48
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RE provide a poor PSO service IMO. I stopped booking them couple of years ago after a line of random cancellations at NOC, DUB, LTN & GWY. Weather diversions are understandable but I suspect the PSO is bottom of their priorates when issues arise elsewhere in their commercial network, there's no accountability or records published as far as I know and they get PSO subsidy either way (eh hello minister, this is taxpayers money).

Very frustrating missing business meetings or connecting flights while sitting at the gate on a beautiful clear morning and being told the aircraft was never sent "due to adverse weather, technical issues, late aircraft positioning".

On the numbers I haven't flown for a while and they aren't published but I'd imagine Irish Rails new early-bird Westport - Dublin service is a more reliable option for many pax.
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 13:15
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Knock is gaining 3 new Ryanair routes to the Canary Islands : Tenerife, Gran Canaria and Lanzarote.
At present, only Lanzarote is linked with Knock through a summer charter operated for Sunway.
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 18:33
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good news for Knock, can only get better for them hopefully a AGP - FR link will be developed for Summer 11.
 
Old 1st Dec 2010, 21:37
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Does anybody know if Ryanair add the €10 airport fee to bookings made or do you pay it at Check-in.

Good to see FR expand at Knock but Alicante and Reus will see a drop in passenger numbers with the new routes to LPS, TFS and ACE. I can't see Knock being able to sustain 6 sun routes. If LDY couldn't keep both ALC and FAO even though ALC was around 80% pas what hope has Knock.
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 21:45
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no airline includes an APD in booking transactions except RE with that poxy WAT development fee!
 
Old 2nd Dec 2010, 09:51
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Jamie2k9 "I can't see Knock being able to sustain 6 sun routes."

I see where you are coming from but then why have they just made NOC - REU/ALC bookable with increased frequency 4x weekly? Those routes also competed with the NOC charters to ACE/FAO last year and had high load-factor all the same, so they seem to be building on that growth and have a good tourism deal from the Canaries authority as well. Also have to factor in reduced capacity at DUB/SNN.

If anything will suffer it's the charters who are down to 733 on FAO/ACE from A321 on some routes in the past. Back in 2006/7 the airport had lots more sun destinations BOJ, HER, PMI, CDZ, AGP.
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Old 2nd Dec 2010, 15:28
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ALC & REU are 3 x weekly each first off. Also i have to agree with Jamie2k9 their diluting the market too much in my view, everyone needs to get a grip traffic, pax no will decline in 2011 with out the removal of the APD, or airport charges being reduced to zero. If thats done these routes will survive but you'l soon find FR get a bit snappy with NOC managment over the 10€ APD, and we will see once again the kinda relationship on-going at SNN & DUB. Also i cant see how their gonna keep 4 direct services from DUB, ORK, SNN & NOC (The one unlikely to remain) to TFS, LPA & ACE. Never mind charters their dead in the water, NOC leads to learn the lesson that bucket and shuvel routes are no good in this climate and try get proper routes i.e. Paris, Madrid, Rome, Milan, Frankfurt etc.. developed with year-round demand.
 
Old 2nd Dec 2010, 23:14
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In fairness to Ryanair they rarely get these things wrong and couldnt see them putting in the routes if they didnt feel they would work. Ryanair havbe no issue with the €10 Dev fee at knock as its being in place for 20 years and they accept it at this stage, lets face it these types of fees are becoming more and more necessary to sustain regional airports eg Durham tees valley announced intro of one last week. Sun routes tend to yield more money for ryanair as passengers tend to pay that little extra a paris or AMS or DUS would work very well but couldnt see demand for any other city breaks as the demand just isnt there whereas they will come from all over to use the sun routes as was proven last year
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Old 3rd Dec 2010, 17:06
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Never mind charters their dead in the water, NOC leads to learn the lesson that bucket and shuvel routes are no good in this climate and try get proper routes i.e. Paris, Madrid, Rome, Milan, Frankfurt etc.. developed with year-round demand.
I would argue that the sun routes are the ones that have the demand. Yes it is seasonal, but that is why FR operate these routes, as such. Even DUB struggles to keep more than daily service to MAD, Milan and Rome, yet there are multiple daily flights to the likes of AGP and FAO, with 738, A330 and A321. ORK has no connection to FRA, MAD, MXP or MAD, KIR has HNN but thats about it. This tells it's own story about the demand profile from Ireland. People want the sun holidays, not the city breaks.
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