IRELAND WEST AIRPORT KNOCK
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What's going on with Ryanair this winter at knock, from what I can see there's nothing bookable.. is there something going on in the background?
Also with Galway's inevitable closure will this have an impact on knock at all, would RE consider moving into noc.
Also with Galway's inevitable closure will this have an impact on knock at all, would RE consider moving into noc.
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They were bookable earlier today I wonder are they going to announce a base at noc and so all the times would have to change.??. My other theory is there is a bit of a standoff between the airport and ryanair due to the fact they pulled Bristol and lba for winter or else ryanair want to take over the man route and the airport are not providing the usual support as it's an established route.
Noc would be pretty screwed if it weren't for ryanair .without ryanair you don't get volume ,unless easyjet make a return to Ireland.
Noc would be pretty screwed if it weren't for ryanair .without ryanair you don't get volume ,unless easyjet make a return to Ireland.
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Leeds was originally on the system then was taken down assumed to have been dropped, but now everything has been dropped which is curious. I did think a base at first but I'd imagine it would be a long shot.
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Very strange, only Tenerife and Lanzarote bookable after October at the moment...but the page layout suggests that the other four winter routes have not been pulled because the dates still show (unlike LBA and BRS which are completely gone after October). Could mean anything from time/frequency changes to something more significant - either good or bad.
I think Knock would pick up a few passengers from the demise of Galway, but probably not a lot else. And even pax wise GWY is running at <100k per annum on international routes at this stage, and only some of those will transfer to Knock. The only gain will be that it will be clearly 'the' hub airport for Connacht now, but then again it always has been anyway...
If GWY does go, the absence of early morning and late evening flights to and from London to Connacht will need to be addressed - that is GWYs only unique offering relative to Knock.
We'll have to wait and see on the Ryanair thing.
I think Knock would pick up a few passengers from the demise of Galway, but probably not a lot else. And even pax wise GWY is running at <100k per annum on international routes at this stage, and only some of those will transfer to Knock. The only gain will be that it will be clearly 'the' hub airport for Connacht now, but then again it always has been anyway...
If GWY does go, the absence of early morning and late evening flights to and from London to Connacht will need to be addressed - that is GWYs only unique offering relative to Knock.
We'll have to wait and see on the Ryanair thing.
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They were bookable earlier today I wonder are they going to announce a base at noc and so all the times would have to change.??. My other theory is there is a bit of a standoff between the airport and ryanair due to the fact they pulled Bristol and lba for winter or else ryanair want to take over the man route and the airport are not providing the usual support as it's an established route.
It is a little strange that all UK flights they are operating are not bookable but it may be fixing day/times as ORK - Liverpool also not bookable.
I don't see FR having a base at NOC. They will wait to see if the Dep of Transport accept there plan for DUB, ORK and SNN before they grow further from NOC.
FR are also putting pressure on airports to lower airprot charges further this winter because of fuel costs. Cost NOC be one of these airports?
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Well then whats the new Irish base that we hear rumors of Jamie? Or is it just that, a rumour.
A few weeks ago FR said in a interview that there next bases would be in Central Europe and possibly North Africa. They must have something planned for next year as they have homes for half of the new aircraft which they will receive.
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The only reason that I could see Ryanair wanting/needing a base at NOC would be if it wanted to serve airports on their network that are not bases. I.e. no need for W patterns.
Gatwick may be one such case but I am not sure FR would want to bother following EI onto this route, besides if they wanted to surely they would have done it by now?
The other reason for wanting a base would be to offer very early departures to say business routes, which for NOC not sure this is needed.
While it would be nice to see it I dont forsee it. One things that that is clear is that the relationship between NOC and FR has stood the test of time. And to the credit of NOC airport when they 1st introduced the development fee and FR threatened to leave and they didnt. FR backed down. So NOC is somewhere FR have a big interest in.
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Gatwick may be one such case but I am not sure FR would want to bother following EI onto this route, besides if they wanted to surely they would have done it by now?
The other reason for wanting a base would be to offer very early departures to say business routes, which for NOC not sure this is needed.
While it would be nice to see it I dont forsee it. One things that that is clear is that the relationship between NOC and FR has stood the test of time. And to the credit of NOC airport when they 1st introduced the development fee and FR threatened to leave and they didnt. FR backed down. So NOC is somewhere FR have a big interest in.
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Just some info; Next Saturday morning RTE have a radio show dedicated to the 25th anniversary of Knock Airport. I am not sure what time I cant remember but it is one of the following, 8am, 9am or 10am. I will post the details when I can find out online, I think the schedules are not posted too far in advance.
You can access www.rte.ie/radio and listen online, this should accessible anywhere on the island of Ireland though not entirely sure if this is accessible in GB or Continental Europe.
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You can access www.rte.ie/radio and listen online, this should accessible anywhere on the island of Ireland though not entirely sure if this is accessible in GB or Continental Europe.
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Another example of poor London timings and lack of evening service making commuting difficult from NOC below. Airport would be better off with LTN 2xdaily or LGW evening service rather than multiple early flights.
Surely it makes sense for FR to offer 1 extra Friday and Sunday evening service give all the extra workers and weekend traffic it would facilitate?
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Mayo’s London trip long-haul
Mayo GAA team couldn't get a return flight after their football match in Ruislip just south of LTN. So they had to book a coach to GWY, where the only option was RE GWY to WAT and on to Southend on the far east of London, then another coach to NW London arriving 5 hours after leaving home.
Surely it makes sense for FR to offer 1 extra Friday and Sunday evening service give all the extra workers and weekend traffic it would facilitate?
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Mayo’s London trip long-haul
Mayo GAA team couldn't get a return flight after their football match in Ruislip just south of LTN. So they had to book a coach to GWY, where the only option was RE GWY to WAT and on to Southend on the far east of London, then another coach to NW London arriving 5 hours after leaving home.
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Knock would really benefit from a service to LHR, AMS or CDG. That would really boost the numbers as I suspect people looking for connectivity are by passing the airport completley.
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Certainly, AMS would also have inbound tourist potential. Flybe recently put a daily E-jet on INV - AMS which would have a somewhat similar market and most of the UK regionals have that popular
hub connection.
EI might be only one with slots for LHR, and would have to sacrifice elsewhere.
But in the mean time a lot could be done to improve existing schedule, though its down to the airlines prioraties.
hub connection.
EI might be only one with slots for LHR, and would have to sacrifice elsewhere.
But in the mean time a lot could be done to improve existing schedule, though its down to the airlines prioraties.
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