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Surprising that Etihad buying into Darwin and now a Etihad regional route to LCY... I don't see the fit for Etihad , ie buying into Darwin. At this rate Cityjet could be next ?
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The Darwin schedule will look like this:
AUH 0235 - 0635 DUS 0845 - 0905 LCY 0930 - 1155 DUS
DUS 1705 - 1730 LCY 1755 - 2015 DUS 2105 - 0635 AUH
The outbound flight to AUH would be, under the current schedule, on airberlin metal which certainly would not impress the LCY clientele.
The first arrival into DUS will connect with very little, just like the afternoon departure to LCY.
One further development could be that airberlin axes its STN flights now that Darwin serves CBG. The Q400 could then replace the Eastern S20 on a code-shared AB/BA DUS service.
AUH 0235 - 0635 DUS 0845 - 0905 LCY 0930 - 1155 DUS
DUS 1705 - 1730 LCY 1755 - 2015 DUS 2105 - 0635 AUH
The outbound flight to AUH would be, under the current schedule, on airberlin metal which certainly would not impress the LCY clientele.
The first arrival into DUS will connect with very little, just like the afternoon departure to LCY.
One further development could be that airberlin axes its STN flights now that Darwin serves CBG. The Q400 could then replace the Eastern S20 on a code-shared AB/BA DUS service.
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This from BA.
British Airways is strengthening its position as the largest airline at London City Airport adding more aircraft, new routes and extra frequencies.
The airline is growing its business next year with three new Embraer aircraft based at City Airport and the launch of new services to Rotterdam in Holland and Florence in Italy in March. There will also be extra daily flights to Amsterdam, Edinburgh and Zurich.
Adam Carson, managing director BA CityFlyer, announced today (November 26) that the first two new 98-seat aircraft will join the fleet in May next year. When the third aircraft arrives there will be 17 aircraft in total, a mix of Embraer 170 and 190 jets.
The expansion of the London City network includes five-a-day services to Rotterdam, four-a-week services to Florence, extra frequency on important European routes as well as the introduction of an Embraer jet on the Dusseldorf route, replacing the current Saab turboprop.
From March, British Airways will fly to 26 international, European and UK destinations direct from the Docklands.
The growth of the British Airways business comes as London City Airport seeks planning approval for a Ł200 million expansion to accommodate up to 120,000 flight movements a year. The proposals will also allow the airport to double its passenger numbers to six million over the next ten years, and includes new aircraft parking stands, to accommodate larger aircraft.
Adam Carson said: “The growth of London City Airport will allow us to further grow our own business there. Our Embraer aircraft are very popular with our customers, for levels of comfort, low noise and emissions and we are delighted to be adding three more of the larger types to our fleet.”
“Although London City was built primarily as a business airport we have seen a huge demand from our customers for more holiday destinations. We have seen growth in both the leisure and business markets and the two new routes we are launching reflects that. Rotterdam is obviously a very important business centre while Florence is the gateway to the beautiful region of Tuscany.”
Declan Collier, CEO, London City Airport said: “This cements British Airways’ position as the biggest airline operating out of London City. A 27 per cent increase in capacity is very significant for the airport and will facilitate more choice and flexibility for passengers. The ability to increase short-haul services from London City will also help to free up capacity for long-haul flights at other capacity-constrained airports in the South East.
British Airways is strengthening its position as the largest airline at London City Airport adding more aircraft, new routes and extra frequencies.
The airline is growing its business next year with three new Embraer aircraft based at City Airport and the launch of new services to Rotterdam in Holland and Florence in Italy in March. There will also be extra daily flights to Amsterdam, Edinburgh and Zurich.
Adam Carson, managing director BA CityFlyer, announced today (November 26) that the first two new 98-seat aircraft will join the fleet in May next year. When the third aircraft arrives there will be 17 aircraft in total, a mix of Embraer 170 and 190 jets.
The expansion of the London City network includes five-a-day services to Rotterdam, four-a-week services to Florence, extra frequency on important European routes as well as the introduction of an Embraer jet on the Dusseldorf route, replacing the current Saab turboprop.
From March, British Airways will fly to 26 international, European and UK destinations direct from the Docklands.
The growth of the British Airways business comes as London City Airport seeks planning approval for a Ł200 million expansion to accommodate up to 120,000 flight movements a year. The proposals will also allow the airport to double its passenger numbers to six million over the next ten years, and includes new aircraft parking stands, to accommodate larger aircraft.
Adam Carson said: “The growth of London City Airport will allow us to further grow our own business there. Our Embraer aircraft are very popular with our customers, for levels of comfort, low noise and emissions and we are delighted to be adding three more of the larger types to our fleet.”
“Although London City was built primarily as a business airport we have seen a huge demand from our customers for more holiday destinations. We have seen growth in both the leisure and business markets and the two new routes we are launching reflects that. Rotterdam is obviously a very important business centre while Florence is the gateway to the beautiful region of Tuscany.”
Declan Collier, CEO, London City Airport said: “This cements British Airways’ position as the biggest airline operating out of London City. A 27 per cent increase in capacity is very significant for the airport and will facilitate more choice and flexibility for passengers. The ability to increase short-haul services from London City will also help to free up capacity for long-haul flights at other capacity-constrained airports in the South East.
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The expansion of the London City network includes five-a-day services to Rotterdam, four-a-week services to Florence, extra frequency on important European routes as well as the introduction of an Embraer jet on the Dusseldorf route, replacing the current Saab turboprop.
Florence - 4 x weekly E-Jet service begins 30th March 2014
BA3279 LCY 11:00 FLR 14:05 EQV 135
BA3279 LCY 16:15 FLR 19:20 EQV 7
BA3280 FLR 14:45 LCY 15:55 EQV 135
BA3280 FLR 19:55 LCY 21:05 EQV 7
Rotterdam - The S2000 is switching to operate the RTM service.
BA4451 LCY 07:35 RTM 09:25 S20 x567
BA4453 LCY 10:30 RTM 12:25 S20 x67
BA4455 LCY 13:30 RTM 15:25 S20 x67
BA4457 LCY 16:25 RTM 18:20 S20 x16
BA4459 LCY 19:25 RTM 21:20 S20 x6
BA4450 RTM 07:05 LCY 07:00 S20 x567
BA4452 RTM 09:55 LCY 09:50 S20 x567
BA4454 RTM 13:00 LCY 12:25 S20 x567
BA4456 RTM 16:00 LCY 15:55 S20 x167
BA4458 RTM 19:00 LCY 18:55 S20 x6
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“Although London City was built primarily as a business airport we have seen a huge demand from our customers for more holiday destinations."
While new routes to Florence and Rotterdam from City are clearly targetted at a struggling rival, I'm wondering whether Vueling closing their daily Heathrow-Florence route means that London-Florence will actually see less capacity in S14 compared to S13. If this is a significant reduction in capacity on the London-Florence city pair, does this necessarily mean Cityjet will feel a major squeeze on the route next summer ?
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It seems LHR-RTM is still bookable, which is a surprise as that gaves BA eight per weekday each way in that LON-RTM market. Adding LCY-DUS at three daily on the ERJ is going to be a big ask but we shall see.
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BACF have cut the frequency of there VCE service from 6 to 3 x weekly for the whole of the S14 schedule
The BA412/BA413 rotation will only operate 2 x weekly (days 6 & 7) during S13 instead of daily. Just read on another site that apparently BA have reached a corporate agreement with Shell which explains the link between LCY and RTM.
Just heard from a very reliable source that BA will announce plans in the coming weeks to also start flights from LGW to FLR at the start os S14 with LGW flights operating on the days that the LCY service does not operate.
It seems LHR-RTM is still bookable, which is a surprise as that gaves BA eight per weekday each way in that LON-RTM market. Adding LCY-DUS at three daily on the ERJ is going to be a big ask but we shall see.
While new routes to Florence and Rotterdam from City are clearly targetted at a struggling rival, I'm wondering whether Vueling closing their daily Heathrow-Florence route means that London-Florence will actually see less capacity in S14 compared to S13. If this is a significant reduction in capacity on the London-Florence city pair, does this necessarily mean Cityjet will feel a major squeeze on the route next summer ?
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I wonder if we are just seeing the beginning of a complete withdrawal of Cityjet from LCY?
Based on various news reports and the GDS listings, the only remaining year-round destinations by WX starting next summer schedule will be AMS, RTM, ANR, DUB and ORY plus FLR and BVE as seasonals. NTE, PAD, FMO, NUE, DRS, DND, LUX, AVN, PUF, TLN all appear to be axed and are no longer bookable. IF those seven remaining destinations FLR and RTM appear to be under threat given BA's offering on the LON-RTM market and WX's apparent decision to move away from one-way pricing.
Based on various news reports and the GDS listings, the only remaining year-round destinations by WX starting next summer schedule will be AMS, RTM, ANR, DUB and ORY plus FLR and BVE as seasonals. NTE, PAD, FMO, NUE, DRS, DND, LUX, AVN, PUF, TLN all appear to be axed and are no longer bookable. IF those seven remaining destinations FLR and RTM appear to be under threat given BA's offering on the LON-RTM market and WX's apparent decision to move away from one-way pricing.
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Well, as I cannot book them any longer after the end of March and they are not displayed in the GDS, I tend to believe so.
EDIT: Apparently DRS and NTE are still bookable directly with WX, but don't show up in Aamdeus and other GDS where they used to be bookable. Is part of the relaunch to be only bookable directly? Would be a bold move for a market like LCY:..
EDIT: Apparently DRS and NTE are still bookable directly with WX, but don't show up in Aamdeus and other GDS where they used to be bookable. Is part of the relaunch to be only bookable directly? Would be a bold move for a market like LCY:..
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I've just noticed that the LCY website has a new front page bold banner reading :
"Passengers with luggage are advised to arrive at the airport no more than 2 hours before departure. Passengers arriving earlier than this will be unable to check in their bags. This is to avoid unnecessary congestion and to ensure baggage handling operates smoothly."
This sort of message is always interesting, because my corporate travel agent, when sending through booking confirmations, have a standard bit which reads "International flights - check in not less than two hours before departure". One wonders how the industry manages to get its different elements so out of kilter with one another.
Quite apart from that, it's another nail in LCY's coffin of passenger primacy, which is how Dermot Desmond built the place up in the first place. I can just imagine what his words would be to any terminal manager who proposed such an attitude .........
"Passengers with luggage are advised to arrive at the airport no more than 2 hours before departure. Passengers arriving earlier than this will be unable to check in their bags. This is to avoid unnecessary congestion and to ensure baggage handling operates smoothly."
This sort of message is always interesting, because my corporate travel agent, when sending through booking confirmations, have a standard bit which reads "International flights - check in not less than two hours before departure". One wonders how the industry manages to get its different elements so out of kilter with one another.
Quite apart from that, it's another nail in LCY's coffin of passenger primacy, which is how Dermot Desmond built the place up in the first place. I can just imagine what his words would be to any terminal manager who proposed such an attitude .........
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I've been using LCY for over 10 years. The "You can't check your bags 2 hours before your flight departure time" rule has been in place for those 10+ years. It is nothing new. An almond croissant and latte at Pret has always been the main beneficiary of this rule for me… Perhaps they are the sponsors?
BTW turning up early for the Sunday 1250 departure home to IOM is pointless. The baggage belt is the king. Until that moves nothing happens. And although it is scheduled to move at 11am (1hr40 before STD) my experience suggests it moves around 11.10. So no point in trying to check in before 1hr30 before departure time then.
Pre "hyper security" check in anywhere was around 1 hour before departure. We are now conditioned to the BAA 3 hour let's go shopping rule I guess.
BTW turning up early for the Sunday 1250 departure home to IOM is pointless. The baggage belt is the king. Until that moves nothing happens. And although it is scheduled to move at 11am (1hr40 before STD) my experience suggests it moves around 11.10. So no point in trying to check in before 1hr30 before departure time then.
Pre "hyper security" check in anywhere was around 1 hour before departure. We are now conditioned to the BAA 3 hour let's go shopping rule I guess.
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Not my prior experience. Living quite close I have, more than once, when travelling with heavy bags on a longer trip, driven over there and checked in, then driven home again to avoid the parking fees, and then made my own way back over there later.
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There is a sign in the concourse advising no baggage check-in before 2 hours before departure time, which I suspect is recent.
Perhaps the rule was originally airline specific - I know it applied when I flew to IOM with Euromanx (from 2005 I think), VLM, Aer Arran and latterly BA. I believe it was also in place for British European flights.
Or maybe they know you and gave you special treatment….?
Perhaps the rule was originally airline specific - I know it applied when I flew to IOM with Euromanx (from 2005 I think), VLM, Aer Arran and latterly BA. I believe it was also in place for British European flights.
Or maybe they know you and gave you special treatment….?
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Something else that would never have been tolerated in DD's time :
LCY immigration barkers - FlyerTalk Forums
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WX's S14 Schedule Released
WX have today made changes to there S14 LCY schedule. Below are a list of the changes (Some of which may have been posted earlier in this thread)
https://www.cityjet.com/news/cityjet...-network.shtml
DUB - Weekday frequency will increase from 5 to 7 x daily. Resulting in a overall capacity to increase by 38%. All flights will be op by a RJ85.
FLR - Weekly frequency will double from 6 to 12 x weekly
ORY - Weekday frequency will increase from 5 to 7 x daily. Resulting in a overall capacity to increase by 18%.
RTM - A RJ85 will replace a F50 on key rotations
TLN - Will increase from 2 to 3 x weekly.
https://www.cityjet.com/news/cityjet...-network.shtml
DUB - Weekday frequency will increase from 5 to 7 x daily. Resulting in a overall capacity to increase by 38%. All flights will be op by a RJ85.
FLR - Weekly frequency will double from 6 to 12 x weekly
ORY - Weekday frequency will increase from 5 to 7 x daily. Resulting in a overall capacity to increase by 18%.
RTM - A RJ85 will replace a F50 on key rotations
TLN - Will increase from 2 to 3 x weekly.