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While any new route is welcome, everything I've read about Centralwings financial situation would stop me from celebrating too hard.
I'm not sure they'd take on EI on the Warsaw route. Perhaps Szcecin - which they've just started flying to from Dublin - might be the third city.
I'm not sure they'd take on EI on the Warsaw route. Perhaps Szcecin - which they've just started flying to from Dublin - might be the third city.
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Just seen new timetables. Cork-Warsaw is there. Initially 2 per week, but then increasing to 3 per week. Wroclaw also increases to 3 per week while Krakow goes to 4 per week! One major downside with Krakow though, all flights are now overnight, operating on a similiar schedule to Wizzair which means that most tourists will avoid it, instead flying from Dublin or Shannon. It will probably be mostly for Polish people.
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Ryanair are transferring the Liverpool flights that had been switched to Kerry back to Cork, so it'll be returning to 1x daily.
A sign of improving relations with Ryanair or is it to put pressure on EI's new Manchester route?
A sign of improving relations with Ryanair or is it to put pressure on EI's new Manchester route?
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Old terminal to be knocked
Pat Keohane, manager of Cork airport has confirmed that the old terminal will be knocked. Surely this is a mistake. Who would have thought that the old terminal at Dublin would be reopened? They may not need it now but the new terminal has a capacity of just 3 million which they will probably nearly reach this year. How will they cope if they sort out their problems with Ryanair and there is a major increase in the number of flights?
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I suspect it's to do with ramp space. I've also heard that there may be some issues about how close it is to the runway.
I suppose an extension to the new terminal could be relatively easily built over the car park in front of the old terminal.
That said, this costs money and that's something that Cork Airport doesn't have. Even if it was available a parallel taxiway or runway extension would be a better way to spend it.
Are there any problems with asbestos in the old part of the old terminal?
I suppose an extension to the new terminal could be relatively easily built over the car park in front of the old terminal.
That said, this costs money and that's something that Cork Airport doesn't have. Even if it was available a parallel taxiway or runway extension would be a better way to spend it.
Are there any problems with asbestos in the old part of the old terminal?
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Well, it looks like Cork Airport is getting out of jail this week with the modest but nonetheless significant announcements of increased flights from Liverpool, Wroclaw & Krakow and the new Warsaw flight from Central Wings that will provide some competition to the all ready established flights by Aer Lingus.
It is only right that the daily Liverpool flight is being restored by Ryanair. It was not too bright to have reduced the capacity in the first place and it would be good to hope that Kerry may be able to get something back from Ryanair in the shape of a summer service from Merseyside?
What about all the Cork flights to and from Poland come next summer? There is going to be a lot of supply and can a good enough yield be got for the competing airlines? Guess with the six weekly CSA flights from Prague gone it should be just a tad easier to fill up some of the availabe extra seats. Sure hope so! Looks like summer 2007 will be the year for Cork people to visit the fine sights in Warsaw and Krakow etc!
Cork could do with more apron space for stands more than it needs the old terminal. Do not forget the banishings to Shannon and Kerry over the last few years and the revenues lost which might have gone a long way towards a few airbridges or a bit of extra concrete for either the runway or a parallel taxiway? The old terminal must have an ongoing cost for it's care and maintenance and fair enough if it is being used to the optimum from the overall airport adminstration point of view but no later than a few days ago the top brass of the airport were engaged in meetings at the Great Southern Hotel rather than at the offices in the old terminal. What kind of signal does that gesture give for the future of the old terminal?
Let us not be overly sentimental about it, I say knock the old terminal for more ramp. If the airport gets the magic 3 million pax by year's end it will be a superb achievement. Worrying how the airport might handle 4 million pax or more in the future can be put off for at least a few years.
Forgot to mention that the Mrs and I came in a few days ago from STN and in the arrivals hall we noticed that there were some new (to Cork) baggage trolleys! The new ones have the advertising panels removed so it not clear if they came from DAA HQ in Dublin or from snn but how they stand out is that they have instructions on use as Gaeilge (in Irish) which the old Cork trolleys have never had to my knowledge. So it looks like the Hand Me Down trolleys have arrived!?
Also heard that Cork Airport's sole airbridge at Stand 9T could not be got to work last Sunday morning for the First Choice Airways Boeing 757 flight to the North Pole to visit Santa. The airbridge could move in and out fine but not left to right and after some time a software problem was diagnosed and eventually an air-stairs was found for use with the aeroplane the only problem being that the stairs was about 18 inches below the height of the 757 but at least the crew got aboard and eventually things got sorted and the flight left for Santa nearly an hour late. The topic was covered on Monday morning's Neil Prendeville show on local radio, 96FM! One lady passenger on the aircraft had been determined to bring the subject to air and she also made mention of the three beautiful buses provided for her and the other pax to use on the crowded ramp up at Katilla!
Fair play to that lady, I salute you, Madam!
It is only right that the daily Liverpool flight is being restored by Ryanair. It was not too bright to have reduced the capacity in the first place and it would be good to hope that Kerry may be able to get something back from Ryanair in the shape of a summer service from Merseyside?
What about all the Cork flights to and from Poland come next summer? There is going to be a lot of supply and can a good enough yield be got for the competing airlines? Guess with the six weekly CSA flights from Prague gone it should be just a tad easier to fill up some of the availabe extra seats. Sure hope so! Looks like summer 2007 will be the year for Cork people to visit the fine sights in Warsaw and Krakow etc!
Cork could do with more apron space for stands more than it needs the old terminal. Do not forget the banishings to Shannon and Kerry over the last few years and the revenues lost which might have gone a long way towards a few airbridges or a bit of extra concrete for either the runway or a parallel taxiway? The old terminal must have an ongoing cost for it's care and maintenance and fair enough if it is being used to the optimum from the overall airport adminstration point of view but no later than a few days ago the top brass of the airport were engaged in meetings at the Great Southern Hotel rather than at the offices in the old terminal. What kind of signal does that gesture give for the future of the old terminal?
Let us not be overly sentimental about it, I say knock the old terminal for more ramp. If the airport gets the magic 3 million pax by year's end it will be a superb achievement. Worrying how the airport might handle 4 million pax or more in the future can be put off for at least a few years.
Forgot to mention that the Mrs and I came in a few days ago from STN and in the arrivals hall we noticed that there were some new (to Cork) baggage trolleys! The new ones have the advertising panels removed so it not clear if they came from DAA HQ in Dublin or from snn but how they stand out is that they have instructions on use as Gaeilge (in Irish) which the old Cork trolleys have never had to my knowledge. So it looks like the Hand Me Down trolleys have arrived!?
Also heard that Cork Airport's sole airbridge at Stand 9T could not be got to work last Sunday morning for the First Choice Airways Boeing 757 flight to the North Pole to visit Santa. The airbridge could move in and out fine but not left to right and after some time a software problem was diagnosed and eventually an air-stairs was found for use with the aeroplane the only problem being that the stairs was about 18 inches below the height of the 757 but at least the crew got aboard and eventually things got sorted and the flight left for Santa nearly an hour late. The topic was covered on Monday morning's Neil Prendeville show on local radio, 96FM! One lady passenger on the aircraft had been determined to bring the subject to air and she also made mention of the three beautiful buses provided for her and the other pax to use on the crowded ramp up at Katilla!
Fair play to that lady, I salute you, Madam!
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News from the hill is that EI are training their staff on the one airbridge with a view to operate it on lhr flts at first and then on others.CAA by all accounts have re-looked at their billing and charging terms to airlines and as a result EI have committed to use the airbridge. But, the best is still to come there are rumours that a second airbridge is or has been ordered !!!!!!!! hope its better than the current always u/s airbridge
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I hope we will eventually see the number of airbridges brought back to four, and if EI commit to using them, then there is a good chance! One question though? Isthe airbridge in Cork capable of boarding passengers through the mid cabin exit doors found on the 757 and 321, or do they just use forward doors only?
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News from the hill is that EI are training their staff on the one airbridge with a view to operate it on lhr flts at first and then on others. CAA by all accounts have re-looked at their billing and charging terms to airlines and as a result EI have committed to use the airbridge. But, the best is still to come there are rumours that a second airbridge is or has been ordered !!!!!!!! hope its better than the current always u/s airbridge
PM me if yu want to know the link. The new airport is enchanted with good luck (so far....!)
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Just wondering how RE are holding up on DUB? I note that they are advertising free newspapers and coffee on the route, but FR are offering every seat(even for next week!) at 0.99EUR + tax, so about 20EUR each way! Surely this can't go on?
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RE are winning the war on the DUB - ORK route.
There are very little €24 fares left with RE, even though they are a reasonable amount designated on all flights. In the run up to christmas there fares are quite high, showing high loads.
While FR has nearly all .99c + TAX fares for the next two weeks!!!
It is cheaper for RE to operate a ATR 72 than it is to operate a 738 on such a short route, the 738 consumes a larger quantity of fuel. So i can only guess the DUB - ORK route for FR is making little or no profit on it.
The Free Newspaper and Coffee is a big factor for the Passengers, And RE are winning that support.
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There are very little €24 fares left with RE, even though they are a reasonable amount designated on all flights. In the run up to christmas there fares are quite high, showing high loads.
While FR has nearly all .99c + TAX fares for the next two weeks!!!
It is cheaper for RE to operate a ATR 72 than it is to operate a 738 on such a short route, the 738 consumes a larger quantity of fuel. So i can only guess the DUB - ORK route for FR is making little or no profit on it.
The Free Newspaper and Coffee is a big factor for the Passengers, And RE are winning that support.
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Of course Ryanair have very deep pockets and could always decide to increase the frequency. In some ways they are catering for different markets.
Aer Arans frequent diversions and cancellations during the recent bad weather not helping their credibility.
Not one Ryanair Domestic flight has diverted in over a year although one did return to Dublin due to crosswinds at Cork on 2nd December.
Aer Arans frequent diversions and cancellations during the recent bad weather not helping their credibility.
Not one Ryanair Domestic flight has diverted in over a year although one did return to Dublin due to crosswinds at Cork on 2nd December.
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Rumours of an Easyjet return
Hi everyone!
I was reading the rumours about EZY possibly coming back to ROI. I think it's highly unlikely.
A source in EZY Luton has told me that the Irish routes did well in terms of Loads but yield was not good. They expect that any link to ROI would result in a Ryanair reaction. They are not interested in this type of competition, as they believe there are lots of profitable routes in Europe that would be more beneficial. In addition, Easyjet is trying to increase the average profit per passenger , which is going well and entry onto Irish routes would be suicidal,in that respect.
Apart from that, my EZY contact has said that Ryanair and Easyjet heads have met and have an understanding not to go onto the same routes head to head, and if you analyse the networks you will only see a few like for likes eg. Liverpool/Krakow, Stansted/Valencia. Many of these routes were pre existing and since the whole Stansted ORK, SNN & NOC experience occured they have been very much staying out of each others ways.
Think about it. In Madrid they both have a new base but they are not serving any of the same routes.EZY are dropping CIA/MAD as FR starts the same one. Ryanairs new routes to Turkey and Morocco are not in competition with EZY. THere are examples.
Ryanair have scaled down expansion at LTN and EZY are not expanding much at STN.... What does anyone think ?
For 1 I think that EZY are a wonderful airline and would love to see them come back but really I cant see it happening.
I was reading the rumours about EZY possibly coming back to ROI. I think it's highly unlikely.
A source in EZY Luton has told me that the Irish routes did well in terms of Loads but yield was not good. They expect that any link to ROI would result in a Ryanair reaction. They are not interested in this type of competition, as they believe there are lots of profitable routes in Europe that would be more beneficial. In addition, Easyjet is trying to increase the average profit per passenger , which is going well and entry onto Irish routes would be suicidal,in that respect.
Apart from that, my EZY contact has said that Ryanair and Easyjet heads have met and have an understanding not to go onto the same routes head to head, and if you analyse the networks you will only see a few like for likes eg. Liverpool/Krakow, Stansted/Valencia. Many of these routes were pre existing and since the whole Stansted ORK, SNN & NOC experience occured they have been very much staying out of each others ways.
Think about it. In Madrid they both have a new base but they are not serving any of the same routes.EZY are dropping CIA/MAD as FR starts the same one. Ryanairs new routes to Turkey and Morocco are not in competition with EZY. THere are examples.
Ryanair have scaled down expansion at LTN and EZY are not expanding much at STN.... What does anyone think ?
For 1 I think that EZY are a wonderful airline and would love to see them come back but really I cant see it happening.