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The westward extension to 'Moffat's Motorway' is now in use - (taxiway Alpha now extended towards 08 threshold).
The rock armour on the promentary looks more than half done with foreign boulders. Why couldn't they have used locally made 'Stabits'
as per the Douglas breakwater which was finished in 1983 ??.
A displaced threshold is about to come into use on runway 26 to allow for work on the extension to proceed.
The A.D. is asking for more dosh from the Govt to get the taxiways upgraded too.
Note to A.D., while we're on a roll, can we have the lights upgraded and transmissiometers installed to have a Cat 2 runway next.
The rock armour on the promentary looks more than half done with foreign boulders. Why couldn't they have used locally made 'Stabits'
as per the Douglas breakwater which was finished in 1983 ??.
A displaced threshold is about to come into use on runway 26 to allow for work on the extension to proceed.
The A.D. is asking for more dosh from the Govt to get the taxiways upgraded too.
Note to A.D., while we're on a roll, can we have the lights upgraded and transmissiometers installed to have a Cat 2 runway next.
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Some RESA pix here:-
Ronaldsway RESA Project
Ronaldsway RESA Project
Interesting projects going on at the airport. Thanks Tony for a brilliant pictorial update....await progress reports !!!!
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It has been confirmed VLM will not operate IOM-LCY from July 20th until 01st September '09. 
It is a shame as has already been said fares are lower than RE and VLM provide an excellent service. (Yes RE do provide a better schedule). However it does seem logical if they are concentrating on the business market to reduce operations during holiday periods. At least they will be back in September for winter schedule! 
VLM suspends Isle of Man to London City route - Isle of Man Today
It is a shame as has already been said fares are lower than RE and VLM provide an excellent service. (Yes RE do provide a better schedule). However it does seem logical if they are concentrating on the business market to reduce operations during holiday periods. At least they will be back in September for winter schedule! VLM suspends Isle of Man to London City route - Isle of Man Today
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4th Q400
Well, after some exploring of the Flybe booking system, it appears the based Q400 count will increase to 4 for the winter.
The 4th aircraft will be doing 2 x BHX during the week, and 1 on Sat and Sun. Cant find anything else it will be doing thou, but there is still time for change.
IOM BHX Dept. 0700, 1735
BHX IOM Arr. 0915, 1950
Interesting.........
The 4th aircraft will be doing 2 x BHX during the week, and 1 on Sat and Sun. Cant find anything else it will be doing thou, but there is still time for change.
IOM BHX Dept. 0700, 1735
BHX IOM Arr. 0915, 1950
Interesting.........
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I'm sure that is a change to the schedule published when W09 was initially released.
Hope it isn't just a temporary change to kill off Eastern, which it surely will, to be followed by a return to the current MO, once they have a monopoly.
Can't figure out what the aircraft will do the rest of the day.
Atleast it will give a bit of spare capacity in IOM as things seem to have been rather tight lately, with cancelations or significant delays happening, as soon as anything goes wrong.
Hope it isn't just a temporary change to kill off Eastern, which it surely will, to be followed by a return to the current MO, once they have a monopoly.
Can't figure out what the aircraft will do the rest of the day.
Atleast it will give a bit of spare capacity in IOM as things seem to have been rather tight lately, with cancelations or significant delays happening, as soon as anything goes wrong.
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It is a good move by BE. Hopefully having the aircraft based in IOM will improve the reliability of IOM-BHX. It has been the worst performing route with regards to punctuality. Eastern will have some real competition 
. The times are much better for IOM based travellers.
It wasn't unexpected but S10 would seem to have been a more predictable time for this to happen. All good news for IOM however that Flybe are showing their continued commitment to the base.
And no this isn't an attempt at raising an argument with the pro-eastern brigade....
. The times are much better for IOM based travellers. It wasn't unexpected but S10 would seem to have been a more predictable time for this to happen. All good news for IOM however that Flybe are showing their continued commitment to the base.
And no this isn't an attempt at raising an argument with the pro-eastern brigade....
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It is a good move by BE. Hopefully having the aircraft based in IOM will improve the reliability of IOM-BHX. It has been the worst performing route with regards to punctuality. Eastern will have some real competition . The times are much better for IOM based travellers.
It wasn't unexpected but S10 would seem to have been a more predictable time for this to happen. All good news for IOM however that Flybe are showing their continued commitment to the base.
And no this isn't an attempt at raising an argument with the pro-eastern brigade....
. The times are much better for IOM based travellers. It wasn't unexpected but S10 would seem to have been a more predictable time for this to happen. All good news for IOM however that Flybe are showing their continued commitment to the base.
And no this isn't an attempt at raising an argument with the pro-eastern brigade....
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BEs 2x daily BHX can't be good for IOM as it'll push Eastern out. No Eastern BHX, no NCL 
and once Eastern go then before you know it next winter will be single daily BHX only on Tues, wed, thurs.....
Ronaldsway needs a mix of operators not a bE monopoly
and once Eastern go then before you know it next winter will be single daily BHX only on Tues, wed, thurs.....Ronaldsway needs a mix of operators not a bE monopoly
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Well said IOMspotter and not forgetting the people who work for Eastern on the Island, what will they do? Its not about petty rivalry its about earning a living in these times.
Flybe will take the Monopoly and change it to suit their needs I suppose.
Early days though, alot can change
Flybe will take the Monopoly and change it to suit their needs I suppose.
Early days though, alot can change
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Again I raise this question, and I feel it genuine as IOM pax seem willing to pay for a decent service. If Eastern offer a better product than Flybe then surely passengers will continue to use them and as such, competition in the form of BE will not be a threat?
Business is business at the end of the day and if Eastern are as strong and determined as they appear to be then I am sure either T3 will win the day or both operators will be able to survive. Afterall there is enough traffic to use both airlines at the moment so I cannot see a huge change just because of timings......BE may benefit from a few extra business pax maybe but I cannot see anything to be concerned about yet
Business is business at the end of the day and if Eastern are as strong and determined as they appear to be then I am sure either T3 will win the day or both operators will be able to survive. Afterall there is enough traffic to use both airlines at the moment so I cannot see a huge change just because of timings......BE may benefit from a few extra business pax maybe but I cannot see anything to be concerned about yet
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J41 CAC, I know that some of the Eastern J41 troops are already in the hold pool to come fly for Flybe anyway. Another Q4 basing may create the vacancies they have been waiting for.
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Cloud 1 yes you are right. When all is said and done it is the fare paying passengers who will decide the outcome. They are the ones who make it all possible. If they deem the new BE schedule and the BE product to be preferable then they will fly Flybe. If not then Eastern will continue as they are. Eastern and Flybe are two totally diffrent products. Hopefully performance issues will be improved with the a/c being IOM based and then it will be down to what the pax decide
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unless BE charge silly low prices and put too much capacity on the route to drive Eastern off then chop capacity back again and stuff up prices.
Won't happn? Look at SOU and LPL experiance
Won't happn? Look at SOU and LPL experiance
Jetstream tech records - your postings are becoming more noteworthy for their comedy value than any form of reasoned debate.
Didn't flybe take over LPL-IOM at short notice when Euromanx fell over? Hardly a crime. If they have subsequently cut back (and they have) then could the recession be anything to do with it rather than a grand conspiracy? Domestic traffic on some routes is down 50% - just look at Eastern's NCL-BHX as a good example. Down 33% in May and they have cut frequency. Is that the fault of Eastern's high fares or poor market conditions? Are they "stuffing up" the market despite the fact that its performance is worse than the 28% drop on IOM-LPL? I don't think so. Rather, I'd think they are responding to some terrible trading conditions which they are pretty much powerless to influence - just like Flybe.
Eastern's BHX-IOM is dying on its feet even before Flybe changes its schedule and presumably sorts out the reliability on the route, which I think everyone agrees is a problem. If you work back from the IOM Airport figures for June, their traffic on the route was down 39% despite the market being down only 6.6%. Eastern's marketshare fell from 36% to 24%. Not exactly encouraging, and that's way before Flybe changes its schedule.
Didn't flybe take over LPL-IOM at short notice when Euromanx fell over? Hardly a crime. If they have subsequently cut back (and they have) then could the recession be anything to do with it rather than a grand conspiracy? Domestic traffic on some routes is down 50% - just look at Eastern's NCL-BHX as a good example. Down 33% in May and they have cut frequency. Is that the fault of Eastern's high fares or poor market conditions? Are they "stuffing up" the market despite the fact that its performance is worse than the 28% drop on IOM-LPL? I don't think so. Rather, I'd think they are responding to some terrible trading conditions which they are pretty much powerless to influence - just like Flybe.
Eastern's BHX-IOM is dying on its feet even before Flybe changes its schedule and presumably sorts out the reliability on the route, which I think everyone agrees is a problem. If you work back from the IOM Airport figures for June, their traffic on the route was down 39% despite the market being down only 6.6%. Eastern's marketshare fell from 36% to 24%. Not exactly encouraging, and that's way before Flybe changes its schedule.
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Who gives a @&^%?
Does it really matter who's on the route or not? Its about Maybe having the power to push others out.
The IOM is on its way to become a complete MONOPOLY??????
Mind you, just like Mark Woodward said in a tripped up statement " the IOM is a natural monopoly".
The BHX, whether Eastern do it or not will reduce to 3 flights a week when they pull off. Then they'll do as they please.
Who cares?
Does it really matter who's on the route or not? Its about Maybe having the power to push others out.
The IOM is on its way to become a complete MONOPOLY??????
Mind you, just like Mark Woodward said in a tripped up statement " the IOM is a natural monopoly".
The BHX, whether Eastern do it or not will reduce to 3 flights a week when they pull off. Then they'll do as they please.
Who cares?
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IIRC, in the past decades IOM most of the times had to live with a dominant, sort-of-monopoly carrier. It only has become more balanced since the demise of Manx Airlines. Which probably is a sign that the market is to small for numerous carriers competing on a number of routes.
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Loganair said Blackpool and Belfast City flights would stop 12 July, yet I see a FlyBe Belfast City arrival and departure on the IOM information board. Have they only dropped Blackpool and now run a much reduced Belfast City service?