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When flybe wanted euromanx out, the flybe fares were £20 on the LPL-IOM route. Does anyone know any reason why they cannot repeat this now in an attempt to win back business? At present the flybe fares on this route are £30....
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I imagine that simply the significant increase in the cost of fuel and the increase in APD since the days of Euromanx is enough to mean that revisiting £20 fares would be commerically unrealistic
I also think it highly probable that even at £30 one-way, Flybe will be subsidising the cost of your flight ticket from IOM to LPL.
I also think it highly probable that even at £30 one-way, Flybe will be subsidising the cost of your flight ticket from IOM to LPL.
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yet MAN-BHD is £24.72 & £28......
JER-MAN is £38 and JER-GLA (2 sectors) is £57 - this is what they used to charge for LGW-IOM (one sector)
by comparisson
JER-MAN is £38 and JER-GLA (2 sectors) is £57 - this is what they used to charge for LGW-IOM (one sector)
by comparisson
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Lots of items on this and various threads about the price differences and there are, in some quarters, an assumption that EZY are cheap. I would agree that at times they are however not always!
Just booked flights for May 2013 from IOM-LGW. The price for 2 adults plus bags of 20kg each (no seat reservations) and given that the return LGW-IOM leg is the first Saturday of TT fortnight the FlyBe price was £256. For the same dates and at similar times the EZY price was £90 more expensive!
Apart from the price BE got the business because if there is a better chance that if the lunchtime flights get delayed or cancelled, there is hopefully space on a later flight. This would not be an option with EZY
Just booked flights for May 2013 from IOM-LGW. The price for 2 adults plus bags of 20kg each (no seat reservations) and given that the return LGW-IOM leg is the first Saturday of TT fortnight the FlyBe price was £256. For the same dates and at similar times the EZY price was £90 more expensive!
Apart from the price BE got the business because if there is a better chance that if the lunchtime flights get delayed or cancelled, there is hopefully space on a later flight. This would not be an option with EZY
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Has anyone seen the full airport passenger numberes for October. They are late which usually means bad
The CAA provisional figures UK Airport Provisional Statistics: 2012 - 10 | Aviation Intelligence | About the CAA show MAN down 6%, LPL DOWN 12% LGW + 32% LCY +13% LTN-32% BHD -13% BLK -4% BRS-2% EDI -28% GLA + 7% JER -37% LBA +23%
Theres so many ups and downs I havent a clue what the total is. Its probably up a bit with all the increase at LGW. but it looks like loads have stopped flying to LPL and MAN and gone down to LGW on the EZY cheapo tickets. Normally if they are good thow we hear under a week of month end
The CAA provisional figures UK Airport Provisional Statistics: 2012 - 10 | Aviation Intelligence | About the CAA show MAN down 6%, LPL DOWN 12% LGW + 32% LCY +13% LTN-32% BHD -13% BLK -4% BRS-2% EDI -28% GLA + 7% JER -37% LBA +23%
Theres so many ups and downs I havent a clue what the total is. Its probably up a bit with all the increase at LGW. but it looks like loads have stopped flying to LPL and MAN and gone down to LGW on the EZY cheapo tickets. Normally if they are good thow we hear under a week of month end
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some body at the bbc havnt done there home work as manx2 dont fly to East midlands airport no more . but think it is a real same as manx2 is not flying from leeds no more as the isle of man is popular for the poeple of yorkshire. i hope another airline takes up the route soon
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With the LGW numbers up so much it looks like EZY have taken their own passengers off their LPL as well as off BEs LGW. Weve seem better loads on their LGW than on their LPL. BEs LGW numbers seem well down most days but not as bad as LPL .
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it will all end in tears. I said so when FlyBe pushed us out. What have they done? Stopped SOU, Stopped BRS and are killing BHX which Eastern had 3x daily and they are now 1 daily some days.
LPL and LGW wont support 2 operators - never has done - never will do.
I said so when FlyBe pushed us out. What have they done? Stopped SOU, Stopped BRS and are killing BHX which Eastern had 3x daily and they are now 1 daily some days.LPL and LGW wont support 2 operators - never has done - never will do.
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I do agree with you JSTR it will end in tears but it will be the guys on the IOM that suffer. The main plus I see for Flybe is based aircraft therefore local Pilots, Crew, Engineers and support staff.
I appreciate that money talks but as said before on here the locals will need to be careful what they wish for. Easy will not base aircraft on the IOM therefore no early departures or late arrivals making a day return near impossible and as soon as they force Flybe out will increase fares with worse frequency starting the cycle again. Whilst I agree Flybe may have been guilty of this at least Flybe has protected local jobs and provided a decent level of frequency.
My concern is that for Flybe to compete with Easy they will have to shut IOM as a base loosing as above local jobs and frequency and run them from the other end or w patterns to achieve the economies that easy get. Other than that worst case scenario (which I can't see) stop serving IOM.
Anyway guess it will unfold over the next 12 months.
I appreciate that money talks but as said before on here the locals will need to be careful what they wish for. Easy will not base aircraft on the IOM therefore no early departures or late arrivals making a day return near impossible and as soon as they force Flybe out will increase fares with worse frequency starting the cycle again. Whilst I agree Flybe may have been guilty of this at least Flybe has protected local jobs and provided a decent level of frequency.
My concern is that for Flybe to compete with Easy they will have to shut IOM as a base loosing as above local jobs and frequency and run them from the other end or w patterns to achieve the economies that easy get. Other than that worst case scenario (which I can't see) stop serving IOM.
Anyway guess it will unfold over the next 12 months.
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The timing of the Manx2 name change so close to the final report being published concerning the tragic crash of the Manx2 Metroliner at Cork Airport almost 2 years ago does seem a little bit strange. It is certainly going to be a challenge for the lawyers to unravel the Byzantine organisation of the former Manx2, once the company has changed its name. The UK CAA are probably going to hide behind EASA regulations to avoid any culpability in regulating Manx2, and the local CAA can say, "nothing to do with us gov, privately registered and owned aircraft only". An interesting few months ahead.
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more details on this local TV bit. mytv.im - Isle of Man News
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IOM-JER to be axed.
And another regional route goes Blue Islands Cease Isle of Man Route - Business News | businesslife.co
Blue Islands Cease Isle of Man Route - Business News | businesslife.co