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i see flybe are chopping a Thursday BHX rotation for the winter and some wednesdays for the new year. Looks like a bit of chopping has happened on LGW AND LPL as well from the original plan but its just more like previous years now.
Doesnt look to me like EZYs new lGW has increased pax numbers overall just spread the same pax over more flights and diluted BEs BHX & LGW, BAs lCY and manx2s OXF
Doesnt look to me like EZYs new lGW has increased pax numbers overall just spread the same pax over more flights and diluted BEs BHX & LGW, BAs lCY and manx2s OXF
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We'll need to wait a month or so to see the official figures, but the scenario you have outlined was entirely predictable.
The market between IOM and London is nowhere near as elastic as IOM-LPL (where large numbers of pax can be attracted from the ferries), so unless EZY's fares attract fresh inbound tourist and VFR traffic, I doubt they'll bring much genuine growth for the embattled directoress......
The market between IOM and London is nowhere near as elastic as IOM-LPL (where large numbers of pax can be attracted from the ferries), so unless EZY's fares attract fresh inbound tourist and VFR traffic, I doubt they'll bring much genuine growth for the embattled directoress......
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Visual Flight Rules
These are both correct and accepted abbreviation in the aviation industry. Of course Visual Flight Rules are what you follow while in the cockpit however when talking about traffic trends and routes Visiting Freinds and Relatives are used.
Visual Flight Rules
These are both correct and accepted abbreviation in the aviation industry. Of course Visual Flight Rules are what you follow while in the cockpit however when talking about traffic trends and routes Visiting Freinds and Relatives are used.
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Remember when there was a Banderante (the one preserved at the island's aviation museum) operating to and from Blackpool VFR at 2000' and no doubt carrying several pax also VFR 
I think the LETs used to do that as well, but dunno whether they still do.
I think the LETs used to do that as well, but dunno whether they still do.
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Manx2 Airborne return engine shutdown.
A LET410, Manx2, had an in flight shut down due low oil pressure in one engine, aircraft landed safely and pax transfered to stand-by a/c to continue their journey. One elderly pax needed follow up treatment due delayed shock 
Good job done in my opinion by the crew, s/e approach in a light twin, not the easiest thing in the world. I get to practise this scenario regularly in a sim, and never had to do it for real, not sure these guys get sim practice! Well done.
Good job done in my opinion by the crew, s/e approach in a light twin, not the easiest thing in the world. I get to practise this scenario regularly in a sim, and never had to do it for real, not sure these guys get sim practice! Well done.
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Airport passenger numbers fall sharply in September
from press today....
The number of passengers using the Isle of Man Airport fell sharply in September. Around 59,500 passengers passed through the terminal whereas in September 2011 some 64,300 used the Airport, a decrease of over 7.5%. Whilst a fall in traffic was expected, as last year hundreds of Commonwealth Youth Games visitors had to switch from sea to air travel as poor weather cancelled ferry departures, the decrease turned out to be significantly greater than anticipated. Over 4,800 fewer passengers used Ronaldsway, the largest fall in traffic since the winter storms caused a drop of 8,100 in December 2010 and the lowest September throughput for the Airport since 1996.
The September figures were greeted with disappointment by Ann Reynolds, the Airport’s Director. “After an unexpected boost to traffic in September 2011, I was expecting a slight decrease for last month, but the outturn is a far greater drop than anticipated.” she said. “Again, I have looked at how UK and Channel Islands airports performed last month and the provisional UK CAA statistics showed that two thirds of them also saw decreases. Moreover some significant airports, such as Belfast City, Liverpool and East Midlands had decreases greater than the Isle of Man. In addition, I have looked at how our traffic decrease is spread throughout the routes and regions we serve and it is clear that the slump in passengers is pretty well across the board.”
Excluding the new Norwich and Oxford routes which started this year, only the Bristol service, which showed a very slight increase of 0.5%, and the British Airways London City route, saw positive results. Indeed the BA London City route carried nearly 850 more passengers that Aer Arann did on the route last year, a 22% increase. The new routes to Oxford and Norwich continued to do well adding between them some 860 passengers to the total.
Of the remaining services on the Island’s network, Liverpool suffered badly with a 1,760 passenger decrease, falling 11.5% over 2011, much of this due to the traffic diverted last year from the sea crossing. Another massive impact was from the withdrawn Southampton service which last year generated over 1,700 passengers. In addition, Birmingham passengers fell by 16.6%, Edinburgh by over 11% and Luton, which also is a reduced frequency, by over 25%.
Regionally, whilst the North West saw a significant fall of over 2,200 passengers – some 7.7% - the London traffic actually increased overall by 2.4%, helped by the London City and London (Oxford) routes. The South and Southwest traffic was hit hard by the withdrawal of the Isle of Man to Southampton service earlier this year and fell by 46%. Numbers travelling to the East and North East of England were boosted by the highly successful Norwich service and rose by almost 14%, whilst Scotland saw a decrease of 8.3% and the Midlands traffic fell by 16.6%.
The number of passengers using the Isle of Man Airport fell sharply in September. Around 59,500 passengers passed through the terminal whereas in September 2011 some 64,300 used the Airport, a decrease of over 7.5%. Whilst a fall in traffic was expected, as last year hundreds of Commonwealth Youth Games visitors had to switch from sea to air travel as poor weather cancelled ferry departures, the decrease turned out to be significantly greater than anticipated. Over 4,800 fewer passengers used Ronaldsway, the largest fall in traffic since the winter storms caused a drop of 8,100 in December 2010 and the lowest September throughput for the Airport since 1996.
The September figures were greeted with disappointment by Ann Reynolds, the Airport’s Director. “After an unexpected boost to traffic in September 2011, I was expecting a slight decrease for last month, but the outturn is a far greater drop than anticipated.” she said. “Again, I have looked at how UK and Channel Islands airports performed last month and the provisional UK CAA statistics showed that two thirds of them also saw decreases. Moreover some significant airports, such as Belfast City, Liverpool and East Midlands had decreases greater than the Isle of Man. In addition, I have looked at how our traffic decrease is spread throughout the routes and regions we serve and it is clear that the slump in passengers is pretty well across the board.”
Excluding the new Norwich and Oxford routes which started this year, only the Bristol service, which showed a very slight increase of 0.5%, and the British Airways London City route, saw positive results. Indeed the BA London City route carried nearly 850 more passengers that Aer Arann did on the route last year, a 22% increase. The new routes to Oxford and Norwich continued to do well adding between them some 860 passengers to the total.
Of the remaining services on the Island’s network, Liverpool suffered badly with a 1,760 passenger decrease, falling 11.5% over 2011, much of this due to the traffic diverted last year from the sea crossing. Another massive impact was from the withdrawn Southampton service which last year generated over 1,700 passengers. In addition, Birmingham passengers fell by 16.6%, Edinburgh by over 11% and Luton, which also is a reduced frequency, by over 25%.
Regionally, whilst the North West saw a significant fall of over 2,200 passengers – some 7.7% - the London traffic actually increased overall by 2.4%, helped by the London City and London (Oxford) routes. The South and Southwest traffic was hit hard by the withdrawal of the Isle of Man to Southampton service earlier this year and fell by 46%. Numbers travelling to the East and North East of England were boosted by the highly successful Norwich service and rose by almost 14%, whilst Scotland saw a decrease of 8.3% and the Midlands traffic fell by 16.6%.
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Interesting that FlyBe have pulled all their first rotations to each of LGW, MAN and LPL on some weekdays in January, so no way to get off the Island and into those major destinations until mid-morning.
Whilst this probably reflects historically low traffic levels at that time of year, in the past, there has been a tendency to pull flights in the middle of the day.
This looks like the start of their campaign to give the the big orange Directoress a few things to think about, for encouraging the big orange planes into Reynoldsway.
Whilst this probably reflects historically low traffic levels at that time of year, in the past, there has been a tendency to pull flights in the middle of the day.
This looks like the start of their campaign to give the the big orange Directoress a few things to think about, for encouraging the big orange planes into Reynoldsway.
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Online timetable shows all 0645 departures to LGW running except (bizarrely) 07Jan13 - so where do you get your info from? The 0950 dep disappears for most of Jan and part of Feb, but that was the case last year.
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Online timetable is clearly not up to date. Check the booking engine for 18th and 25th January, as examples, on all three routes, and then say sorry!!
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Aye - 0645 LGW has disappeared from booking engine Fri, Sat, Sun for at least the last two weekends of Jan. (Too many mouse clicks needed to check further).Recall they dropped the last Sat and early Sun rotations in Jan/Feb last year, but not the Fri. I'm guessing business types are using LCY reducing the early morning demand, and the orange thinghy has added so much cheaper capacity to take the weekend leisure pax.
So Tonyq apologies are certainly in order!
FlyBe are being squeezed by easyjet and by the hike in landing fees at LGW. Their USP has been frequency not price, and cancelling rotations, whilst economically sensible, destroys that USP.
Have to confess as a frequent London bound pax even I have already used the orange plane due to price, and I prefer to use LCY over LGW where the timing works. Not good news for FlyBe, or for the island generally I fear.
So Tonyq apologies are certainly in order!
FlyBe are being squeezed by easyjet and by the hike in landing fees at LGW. Their USP has been frequency not price, and cancelling rotations, whilst economically sensible, destroys that USP.
Have to confess as a frequent London bound pax even I have already used the orange plane due to price, and I prefer to use LCY over LGW where the timing works. Not good news for FlyBe, or for the island generally I fear.
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The DH contract to LPL was tendered some months ago, but as far as I know, an award is still awaited. BE are continuing to provide the service in the interim.
Yes, just like you HAC, I am a very regular traveller to London, and over the last 4/5 years, I feel I've generally had a very good service and (by planning ahead) good value from BE. However, I have several round trips with EZY in the diary between now and Easter, even changing the pattern of my travel, simply because it was so cheap. So, although I'm very uncomfortable about where all this is leading for the IOM, money talks. I suspect I won't be alone.
BE will know they can do very little to make life difficult for EZY directly, so, as I said previously, I am sure that BE's tactic is scrapping those morning flights is designed to fire a shot across the bows of the airport management and politicians, for gambling with the future stability of services. An interesting period lies ahead.
Yes, just like you HAC, I am a very regular traveller to London, and over the last 4/5 years, I feel I've generally had a very good service and (by planning ahead) good value from BE. However, I have several round trips with EZY in the diary between now and Easter, even changing the pattern of my travel, simply because it was so cheap. So, although I'm very uncomfortable about where all this is leading for the IOM, money talks. I suspect I won't be alone.
BE will know they can do very little to make life difficult for EZY directly, so, as I said previously, I am sure that BE's tactic is scrapping those morning flights is designed to fire a shot across the bows of the airport management and politicians, for gambling with the future stability of services. An interesting period lies ahead.