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Old 10th May 2012, 15:24
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Just got a price for fare with BACF 16th Jul same day return....

Economy.... £145 return but £60 plus change in fare if you want to change flight times.... pretty reasonable (except the charges to change)

Flexible fare.. Same dates, just over £500 to include free flight time changes....

surely an error???
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Old 10th May 2012, 18:06
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And flybe "New Economy" to LGW plus a Victoria train fare would be.....?
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Old 10th May 2012, 18:47
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Same day, roughly same travel times.

£230 ( Includes Flights with Flybe on the Red Eye arriving 0820 "New Economy" and Anytime travel card on rail to Include LGW-Victoria, Tube and Bus services)
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Old 10th May 2012, 18:57
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On closer inspection with regard to BACF there is a change fee of £60, plus a £30 admin charge for changes over the phone for the economy pricing. (If I understand that economy means non-flexible tickets) Nothing about at the desk for changes.

Standard BA pricing no doubt.

I stand to be corrected, just what I read from the T's and C's off the website.
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Old 10th May 2012, 19:06
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ba.com isnt the cheapest place to book

thank me later
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Old 10th May 2012, 19:51
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You cannot really compare fares on a like for like basis as Flybe's have been on sale for months so logically the best fares have gone on their flights.

Personally, I find LGW way more convenient and better value to get into central London, I very rarely pay more than £5 single and the Southern trains are much nicer than the DLR.
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Old 10th May 2012, 20:15
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@manxcrab

Agreed and your point is very valid.

I was simply comparing out of interest. Overall I think what you are getting with Flybe with the new Economy in terms of flight changes/choice of departure times etc is actually far better when comparing directly with the BACF "Flexi" ticket which offers essentially the same product costs over £500.

I suppose you get what you pay for!
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Old 20th May 2012, 19:54
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The big delays today were caused by a FlyBe Q400 that had to return to IOM because it's undercarriage wouldnt retract. The runway was closed for 20 minutes while they had to tow the plane off so lots of 2-3 hour delays.

BE819 Manchester BE Flybe 18:00 Landed 20:47
AF6422 Manchester AF Air France 18:00 Landed 20:47
EY730 Manchester EY ETIHAD 18:00 Landed 20:47
BE606 Liverpool BE Flybe 18:05 Landed 20:03

BE608 Liverpool BE Flybe 20:35 Estimated 22:05
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Old 20th May 2012, 19:59
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Is there not still a secondary (cross) runway in use at IOM?
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Old 21st May 2012, 13:49
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Yes, but with an emergency you lose fire cover until the area, etc is secure. The delays come because flights due to take off are stopped and slots lost, etc. You simply cannot switch to the second runway as it is a secondary, non instrument and shorter runway which not all aircraft are able to use anyway.
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Old 21st May 2012, 15:22
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BE819 Manchester BE Flybe 18:00 Landed 20:47
AF6422 Manchester AF Air France 18:00 Landed 20:47
EY730 Manchester EY ETIHAD 18:00 Landed 20:47
These three flights are all the same flight at it is a code share flight so there were only three flights delayed in total.
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Old 22nd May 2012, 15:23
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...And both LPL flights would have been operated by the airframe that had done the LTN. Hence they needed another hull positioning in to allow that line to continue.
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Old 26th May 2012, 16:24
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some 5 hour delays today with two aircraft tech. BHX plane doing a triangular down to BRS first. Looks like lates and an extension tonight

BE813 Manchester BE Flybe 12:25 Due at 17:15
AF6418 Manchester AF Air France 12:25 Due at 17:15
EY7033 Manchester EY ETIHAD 12:25 Due at 17:15
BE498 Bristol BE Flybe 15:50 Estimated 20:05
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Old 26th May 2012, 16:27
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Has anybody seen the airport passenger numbers for April yet? usually when they are late it means theys down
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Old 26th May 2012, 16:31
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One of the tech a/c was caused by being hit by the wheelchair machine. Poor driver went to hospital and hope he recovers ok.

Not ideal for start to TT!


Again, despite these problems Flybe are doing their best to get everyone where they need to be, rather than simply cancel and say come back tomorrow.
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Old 26th May 2012, 16:36
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Good point D & T. What happened on Thursday when the EZY couldnt get in due WX. Did they can and rebook or try again later. I was home by then.
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Old 27th May 2012, 11:07
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Oh dear......sounds as though the 'big girl' will be getting her cheque book out when the bill arrives from FlyBe......
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Old 27th May 2012, 16:50
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Yessir just seen the hole in the skin. The aircraft is parked well away on the Eastern apron under the control tower with the damage out of sight. But a wip round in the loaders canteen wont cover the bill for this. Driver was checked at Nobles and released OK so thats good news
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Old 27th May 2012, 16:58
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Last time I saw something that bashed it was going round Onchan Park stadium in the end of season demolition derby.

It's not going to be a quick, or cheap, repair.
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Old 27th May 2012, 20:58
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Angel

Typically, the airport authority has a "hold harmless" clause in its agreement with the airline, which means that it is exempt from damages caused by the actions of its employees.

This means that Flybe and its insurers will pick up the bill for this one.
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