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Old 3rd Oct 2006, 20:28
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FlyGlobespan Summer 07 routes?

Firstly, apologies as the LPL flight with RYR started TODAY, got my dates wrong! RYR hope to carry 100K pax on the route, tad ambitious? Air Wales struggled to carry 100 in a week!! Good luck to them in any event.

Suggestions of a schedule of routes starting to appear on the GSM website, taking in (so far) BCN, PMI, ALC, FAO & MJV. Can't see this for myself, but apparently you can change the airports in the timetables page (not even going to try!!) Suppose you can make the timetables say anything you want it to. If true however, no AGP...YET! So MON Sch'd can breathe easier.
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FR Liverpool & Eastern

Well pax numbers on the first FR flight are as follows

LPL-ABZ 69
ABZ-LPL 62

Not bad in my opinion for the maiden flight of the route.

Also full emergency at ABZ today with Easterns J32.

It was heading to wick and landing gear wouldn't fully extend, so manually lowered. as was touching down at wick nose wheel collapses, so the pilot pulls nose up and takes off again. Decides to head back to ABZ, but unknown to the crew. wick ATC tells them bits of propeller and landing gear on runway. Full emergency at ABZ A/C manages to land safely with 3 pAX on board.

This is how I heard it at work
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Fr Lpl & T3

FR: 60-odd pax on a 738 both ways doesn't sound that encouraging. We'll have to see if the route is allowed to develop - FR dropping HUY-DUB after only one season due to poor loads. As you say Stu maiden flight, so maybe things will pick up in the weeks ahead.

T3: So did the nosewheel hold up when it returned to ABZ? Also 3 pax aboard Surely that can't make money for the airline? Mind you I imagine that most off-peak T3 flights t/f ABZ would carry that sort of load!
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FR Liverpool & Eastern

Heard from the ADM 150 odd pax booked on the liverpool flight Sat. (Heading south)

Yes the landing gear did hold when landing at ABZ. seemingly props are in a right state. G-BUVC was the A/C in question.

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Heard it was 5 Passengers and 3 Crew. Also noticed Aircraft G-BUVC is painted in Easterns new colours looks quite smart on the J32 guess that means teh J32s are staying in the fleet.Glad to hear they landed safely

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Definately 3 Pax and 3 crew. I spoke to the cabin crew and she confirms this.

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Originally Posted by Richard Taylor
T3: So did the nosewheel hold up when it returned to ABZ? Also 3 pax aboard Surely that can't make money for the airline? Mind you I imagine that most off-peak T3 flights t/f ABZ would carry that sort of load!
Richard, I think you will find most off peak T3 flights at ABZ carry much more than 3 these days! It is very rare indeed for a T3 flight not to make a profit due to lack of pax!!
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Gsm Flights On Sale Now For S07

ABZ to:

ALC - 2 weekly, departs Mon/Fri
BCN - 2 weekly, departs Thurs/Sun
PFO - weekly, departs Tues
FAO - 2 weekly, departs Wed/Sat
AGP - TBA
MJV - 2 weekly, departs Wed/Sun
PMI - 3 weekly, departs Mon/Thurs/Sat
TFS - TBA

Looks like a good host of routes for the first Season.
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And it looks like MON will have competition on the AGP run after all! Can it sustain 2 carriers?

Great to see ABZ finally start to receive the low-cost flights enjoyed by others.

Re T3, see a lot of talk about why the crew of the WIC aircraft elected to return to ABZ the other day. Also a lot of uninformed rubbish by those who should know better perhaps. My question is why they didn't elect to divert to INV, as nearer. Was it a company requirement for them to fly to ABZ - but T3 do have a presence at INV. Not criticising, just curious. Main thing is everyone got off safely.

CsN: My comments re T3 were (slightly!) tongue-in -cheek. I guess the vast majority of T3 flights are busy, but I did read a SOU flight (the direct one) the other day had 14 aboard, that on a SB20. Don't think there's much doubt T3 do extremely well out of ABZ!
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Oh the joy of NOT having to sit around for 7 hours waiting for a connecting flight.
Booked my ABZ-PFO flights today.
Good news for Aberdeen and the local catchment area. Gives me something to do at night now apart from wait for Sheds and the odd ambulance!!
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Old 5th Oct 2006, 18:09
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GSM

"As well as improving holiday options for the region, we will also be bringing employment into the area. We prefer to hire flight deck personnel and cabin crew members locally and will start a recruitment drive immediately."
The airline will base a new Boeing 737-700 aircraft at Aberdeen for next summer's flight programme. The aircraft will be able to fly to Tenerife and Cyprus non-stop from the Granite City.

P&J

Great news

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Great news at last.Will get my FAO flight booked up and save the trip to Glasgow.BAA will have to start pouring more concrete PDQ for International Stands.It's still a joke there and as usual ATC have to sort out the mess.
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Isn't it Airfield Ops that have the stand juggling job??
ATC just have the job of telling the A/C to wait 20 odd mins for the juggling to stop. lol

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Air France

Hearing the CDG flight for winter may be upgraded to a F100 from F70.
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Tangoecho,
What a load of tripe.
Where prey tell can we hold a plane for 20mins,on an airfield the size of a postage stamp? On 16 the airfield grinds of a halt,and on 34 you have an area about 300m where you can hold.Don't forget we have swarms of helis to deal with,something that the BAA has NEVER had to cope with.There are NO new areas to park.Just resurfaced to become stands,but it is of no use.
There a 4,yes 4 international stands.Common waken up,and get the concrete down now.
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A new large international stand is to be laid (If thats the correct phrase) beside stand 1 and it will be stand 0 as I was told it will be enough to carry 2 737-800s. I expect that includes the widening of stand 1.
Also International arrivals hall being made bigger.

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Believe me I know what like it is at the busier times of day. I know you have a difficult job.

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Stand 0 !!!! Surely not!!

AGP has disappeared off the GSM list for ABZ, so MON have it to themselves for now.
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Aberdeen airport

Hey people

would just like to ask if theres a cheap way to land and park your aircraft in aberdeen airport for a couple of days? Instead of landing in the current FBO "signarture" which has quoted for parking my aircraft there for 48 hours and landing fee and nav fee will cost a total of £130 for a socata TB10. Which I think is unbelievable compared to the £8.50 I pay in liverpool. So has any nice hearted people out there got any suggestion and information for me?.

Thanks

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Don't have contact details or rates but try the flying club at ABZ, Grampian Flying School or whatever they call themselves these days. They should be able to park your TB10.
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Masterplan

See the final draft of GLA's masterplan is due out today (may even be out now), following on from the previous one for EDI.

Anyone know when the final draft of the ABZ one is due out?

And will it be any different from the initial draft last year? As has been said, more international stands & parking areas are badly needed.

In terms of actual area, anywhere ABZ can expand into? Can more land to the south of the Flying School be given over to parking aircraft?

What about the farm/farmland to the south of the terminal/cargo area. Could the farmer be enticed to sell up (I've long thought BAA should have bought him out years ago). That'll shake up the sheep!
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