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Old 2nd Mar 2010, 14:52
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Originally Posted by turbroprop
Crazy100 I do love your posts.

Airports looking for business and custom made facilities. Been on Google and there is a site that would suit all the different Atlantic companies.

It is very near to Bagington.
Which is all very well and good. I'm sure you think you are being very clever (failing by the way), but, you have missed the point that the scenario was the Baginton site shutting down. Should it stay open then there would be no need to move. I think I made that clear in the post.
If you think that Airports are not looking for business opportunities then you are out of touch somewhat with the airport business.
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Old 2nd Mar 2010, 17:25
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[QUOTE][Someone needs to investiagte if the dealings between these firms was proper and if they realy got £5m worth of services from CVT. I am always very suspicous when lots of money move between firms owned by the same directors before one goes under./QUOTE]

Fair question, but the Directors listed were part of the company who jointly owned WMIA with Howard Holdings (CAFCO-C?). I believe they were bought out around 18 months ago by HH.

The Tower has new VCCS, displays, SSR Feed, recorder, AGL control panel (to go with the new airfield lighting), ATC simulator. Plus the Transmitter mast was relocated.
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Old 8th Mar 2010, 18:25
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local council help a local Airport



at long last a local council that is getting behind its local Airport

Shepway DC approved the application from Lydd not only for a rwy extension but also a passenger terminal

why oh why do we have such short sighted councils in the coventry area

come on lets give PR all the suport we can if he goes ahead with cov
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Old 8th Mar 2010, 19:11
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why oh why do we have such short sighted councils in the coventry area
You probably wouldn't if, like Lydd, Coventry had an Arab Gentleman with comparatively unlimited resources to throw at the Airport, and he could buy most of Coventry CCs assets without having to disturb the loose change in his pockets.

Its far too late for Coventry now, it's only worth is all of the site being developed as an industrial area or housing, of course, those who disagree can get their cheque books out...
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Old 8th Mar 2010, 19:19
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Only option left

I suspect the only option left is for Sir Peter Rigby to offer a peppercorn rent of £1/annum for the next decade, maybe two, with a free hand to do as he wishes so long as it is maintained as an operational aerodrome.

Any other solution is unworkable.
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Old 8th Mar 2010, 21:22
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why is it that you only ever look at the down side????
just for once show some compassion for those whose livelihood depended on coventry
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Old 9th Mar 2010, 08:43
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why oh why do we have such short sighted councils in the coventry area
Its easy to blame others for the lack of commercial viability at coventry and why its expansion plans werent successful. The real problem I believe was internal, not external.
Dont you think if coventry actually had got planning permission for its big new passenger terminal, it would have just gone bust even quicker spending vast amounts of money on what would now be another big empty building?
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Old 9th Mar 2010, 11:51
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Internal Problems

Excuse me me interjecting but when the application for the terminal was happening I thought that Coventry had Thompsonfly , Whizz and enquiries from several other not so small airlines. It's a bit chicken and egg, without one the other could not exist . The protesters against the terminal expansion have lost thousands of Coventry people jobs and set the City back into anonimity next to Birmingham. Well done folks.
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Old 9th Mar 2010, 12:52
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That;s too simplistic a view....You make the assumption that Thomsonfly would still be flying from there. It probably wouldn't. The recession has hit the aviation industry badly. CVT would still be in the same boat now. The only difference would be that the debt would be much higher.
CVT is not in trouble because the planning failed. They could have built a 1 million capacity terminal but elected not to. Then they spent a fortune trying to get planning permission that they were told they could not have.
The airport never made any money at any time. Fat chance in a recession.
The present proposals for a smaller airfield and operation specialising in GA, Cargo and BA with some Maintenance ops is the sensible way to go. Time to drop the grand ambitions and face reality...
Fingers crossed on the latest attempt..
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Old 9th Mar 2010, 19:01
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why is it that you only ever look at the down side????
just for once show some compassion for those whose livelihood depended on coventry
Not the downside, just simple economics and plain business sense.
I personally know quite a number of those involved, do you really think that I would wish the present situation upon any of them, never mind those I don't?

In the last 30 years I've seen many airlines come and go, but not many airports, and having personally experienced it, I wouldn't wish the consequences upon anyone.
However, no business can survive on fresh air and it's plain to see that Coventry has no future as an airport, if it had it would have been snapped up by now.
Hopefully many of those who have lost out will get a chance to rebuild their careers from the redevelopment of the site.

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Old 9th Mar 2010, 20:17
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Why do people think there's actually demand for a business park in that location? There are currently a number of large empty sites in the city that have stalled - Peugot Ryton, Browns Lane to name two, plus the large development at Whitley that has taken years to get going and is struggling with businesses pulling out. The owners of the massive Courtaulds site in Foleshill were unable to sell it to developers... there is also developments at the former Marconi site (Currently empty) and the Ansty site will also be empty when Ericsson pull out...
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 06:55
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Coventry will remain an "Airfield"!
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 08:47
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What's happened to Cov Man??? Where art thou, I miss you and your musings
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 10:23
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What's happened to blokes in pubs buying airport?
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 10:35
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they couldn't afford two for a tenner !!
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 12:11
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Well I suppose if they don't go back to being a commercial field and remain cargo and GA we might get Mickey C to put some of his "Classic " Airshows again they were certainly popular a few years ago.
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Old 11th Mar 2010, 22:16
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I thought I heard something.

I went out into my garden tonight and I swore I could hear Warwickshire bottoms squeaking oh dear a high speed railway line at the bottom of my garden that will not do. I think we ought to let those nice people at Coventry Airport build their Terminal after all perhaps the occasional plane might not be so bad. Oh dear Oh dear.
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Old 11th Mar 2010, 22:34
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I think the High Speed railway is in the same realms of fantasy as a passenger terminal at Cov Airport!

Really, by the time it gets to 2017 this will have vanished into the same void that most of the government's other plans vanish into...

The fair folk of Warwickshire won't mind. Although I wouldn't be surprised if there are more commuters from Warwickshire to London than from Brum.
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Old 12th Mar 2010, 03:42
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As it won't be up and running until at least 2022 it's hardly the hot topic. The route is proposed and has a long, long, way to go before being finalised if indeed it survives cuts.
Great how some people keep popping up with moans about those that live in Warwickshire that participated in the Planning procedure legally (I'm not one, for the record). Unlike CVT who tried to circumvent the procedures whenever the chance was given. Time to move forward not live in the past. I don't believe the Planning Permission for a larger terminal would have made a jot of difference to the present difficulties. In fact it would have deepened the debt. Thomsonfly would still have left. They couldn't even attract anyone else with an empty 1 million capacity terminal...
Hopefully someone will break the silence soon on the latest rescue plan...Good luck all who work there.
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Old 12th Mar 2010, 08:07
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Just a little tweak in that rail route and CVT could be LHR's third runway.

Shame Sir Peter has no-one to go to the pub with but it does help his information security. Been very quiet but keep the faith CVTers, not long now
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