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Coventry wasn't aiming this time round for any low cost airline. Airlines are not the be all and end all of air transport. Some of the larger airports in the world manage without a single airliner
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Interested Party
Just announced on local radio the other party showing interest in the airport is Sir Peter Rigby, head of IT group SCC,. one of britains richest people.
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And interestingly on the SCC home page there are currently customer case studies / testimonials from London City Airport and Stobart Group. Two companies not entirely disconnected from aviation! 
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This man is no mug, he is an aviation enthusiast and a with the links his company keeps who knows what the possibilities are.So hopefully things maybe looking up at Coventry, they certainly deserve some good luck.
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"This man is no mug, he is an aviation enthusiast and a with the links his company keeps who knows what the possibilities are.So hopefully things maybe looking up at Coventry, they certainly deserve some good luck.
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Indeed he is no mug, which makes me think that perhaps he would balk at owning CVT. Mugs are really what are needed to take it over, anybody with any sense and money will be steering well clear I'd imagine.
He might be interested, owns Patriot Aviation down at Cranfield, and has an aircraft based at CVT which was handled by Helicentre I think, also has his single Squirrel at Wellesbourne near where he lives I believe.
"Indeed he is no mug, which makes me think that perhaps he would balk at owning CVT. Mugs are really what are needed to take it over, anybody with any sense and money will be steering well clear I'd imagine.
He might be interested, owns Patriot Aviation down at Cranfield, and has an aircraft based at CVT which was handled by Helicentre I think, also has his single Squirrel at Wellesbourne near where he lives I believe.
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"the other party showing interest in the airport is Sir Peter Rigby"
From what I can gather, Sir Peter Rigby has been in the frame for a while now, albeit in the background. Maybe been waiting for the "Tyre Kickers" to do their bit. Now they have gone, hopefully Sir Rigby can get on with the purchase of Coventry Airport.
Best of luck
From what I can gather, Sir Peter Rigby has been in the frame for a while now, albeit in the background. Maybe been waiting for the "Tyre Kickers" to do their bit. Now they have gone, hopefully Sir Rigby can get on with the purchase of Coventry Airport.
Best of luck
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Why on earth would Sir Peter Want to buy Coventry Airport?
Is Coventry Airport a good investment over the next couple of years!!!!
Sir Peter might aswell buy wellesbourne he has got more chance of making a return on his money
Is Coventry Airport a good investment over the next couple of years!!!!
Sir Peter might aswell buy wellesbourne he has got more chance of making a return on his money
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The question is NJTCF, is not why would Sir Peter Rigby buy Coventry not why wouldnt he.
The last time I lookde he was a successfull buisnessman, worth a pretty penny. Are you one of his advisors or should we trust he is a buisnessman who knwos what he is doing, whether he does or does not purchase the airport
The last time I lookde he was a successfull buisnessman, worth a pretty penny. Are you one of his advisors or should we trust he is a buisnessman who knwos what he is doing, whether he does or does not purchase the airport
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Jenny,
You seem to take so much joy out of Coventrys failings I can only assume you either live with the NImbys in Stoneleigh or are a disgruntled ex employee. I rather suspect the latter.
If not why the smugness at its failings? would you rather see houses or an airstrip from your ivory tower.
I just cant fathom why it failing is so enjoyable for you, particularly with so many peoples jobs at risk, especially as the previous incumbents who ran it so poorly have gone and now the site is looking for a new begining.
You seem to take so much joy out of Coventrys failings I can only assume you either live with the NImbys in Stoneleigh or are a disgruntled ex employee. I rather suspect the latter.
If not why the smugness at its failings? would you rather see houses or an airstrip from your ivory tower.
I just cant fathom why it failing is so enjoyable for you, particularly with so many peoples jobs at risk, especially as the previous incumbents who ran it so poorly have gone and now the site is looking for a new begining.
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Agreed, i can't see why he would want it. I mean he could setup Patriot there, but then again he could have done that when it was open. You need a company to buy coventry who a) arn't scared of spending money and b) have the contacts (or existing buisness) the can subsidise the airport.
Im talking about a major freight company who intend to use the airport spend money and operate their freight out of it. In which case they can justify spending the money to develop the site, or a company that has money to burn, wants to develop something and has the right contacts and people to bring in the buisness (ADP).
This obviously is all based on whether anyone can put up with the standpoint of Warwickshire CC, i personally wouldn't choose to invest my millions in an airport to bring it up to scratch and get it making money when faced with constant protests and objection from some twerps that have their heads up their arses'
Im talking about a major freight company who intend to use the airport spend money and operate their freight out of it. In which case they can justify spending the money to develop the site, or a company that has money to burn, wants to develop something and has the right contacts and people to bring in the buisness (ADP).
This obviously is all based on whether anyone can put up with the standpoint of Warwickshire CC, i personally wouldn't choose to invest my millions in an airport to bring it up to scratch and get it making money when faced with constant protests and objection from some twerps that have their heads up their arses'
As someone who's been made redundant 3 times in Coventry I know the feeling only too well, no malice was meant but sometimes a little humour at times like these as long as it's not personal sometimes may be ok I cetainly was not taking the p**s
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Just had a thought could it be the name is why the airfield will not sell.
Kidlington has done it to London Oxford. I think London Coventy does not have a good ring to it.
What about Birmingham Terminal 3. I am all for it. Copy the M4 near Heathrow and make one lane of the A45 a bus lane. Therefore passengers can check in at Birmingham then a good bus run down the A45 bus lane to Terminal 3.
Bonus would be Birmingham gets instant second runway.
Kidlington has done it to London Oxford. I think London Coventy does not have a good ring to it.
What about Birmingham Terminal 3. I am all for it. Copy the M4 near Heathrow and make one lane of the A45 a bus lane. Therefore passengers can check in at Birmingham then a good bus run down the A45 bus lane to Terminal 3.
Bonus would be Birmingham gets instant second runway.
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Haha i think i must know you as i and collegues have discussed this before! T3 for birminghams exec jets and freight and short haul/internal flights. Leave them to continue on the big stuff... High speed rail line bad-a-bing!
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Reality check
Maybe I've been the only one saying, for about 4 years, this ain't ever gonna work. In the ole days everyone was optimistic about the difference a passenger terminal would make while I was observing that many regional airports WITH nice terminals still have little or no passenger business.
And when the Swiss lot went on telly and started on about passenger flights I was forced to conclude that they were amateurs, ill-informed and unlikely to see it through.
Forget all talk of passenger flights from CVT and ignore 'bidders' who aspire to secure them for they are not likely to stick around for long. The climate is cool and the need is just not there - and a small amount of passenger flight business is worse still because you have all the added cost (especially ATC and security) and no real revenue. You either gotta have half a million passenger or none - anything in-between is not viable.
I think the exec airport idea with heavy GA and training could have worked but was too little, too late and being marketed by entirely the wrong people.
I do think Peter Rigby could take that idea further through sheer determination and good business practice - something we'd all welcome. I am sure he'd put together a proper business team for CVT.
On a final note we are not privy to the beauty contest being held by the council. I do think they're being seduced by fake bidders with grand promises and the longer they wait the less business will survive there to be of interest to the new leaseholder.
And when the Swiss lot went on telly and started on about passenger flights I was forced to conclude that they were amateurs, ill-informed and unlikely to see it through.
Forget all talk of passenger flights from CVT and ignore 'bidders' who aspire to secure them for they are not likely to stick around for long. The climate is cool and the need is just not there - and a small amount of passenger flight business is worse still because you have all the added cost (especially ATC and security) and no real revenue. You either gotta have half a million passenger or none - anything in-between is not viable.
I think the exec airport idea with heavy GA and training could have worked but was too little, too late and being marketed by entirely the wrong people.
I do think Peter Rigby could take that idea further through sheer determination and good business practice - something we'd all welcome. I am sure he'd put together a proper business team for CVT.
On a final note we are not privy to the beauty contest being held by the council. I do think they're being seduced by fake bidders with grand promises and the longer they wait the less business will survive there to be of interest to the new leaseholder.
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If you look at how all the major airports are doing now and the poor projections for another 12 months, no one is going to come in and do anything with airlines.
The only Airlines that would look at CVT (and only in good times) would be the LOCO's and CVT is not going to make anything out of them....As they couldn't before..
I hope something turns up for the sake of those still clinging on to employment. Either way I think this is the last throw of the Dice...
If this fails then the Council will just have to admit defeat methinks...
The only Airlines that would look at CVT (and only in good times) would be the LOCO's and CVT is not going to make anything out of them....As they couldn't before..
I hope something turns up for the sake of those still clinging on to employment. Either way I think this is the last throw of the Dice...
If this fails then the Council will just have to admit defeat methinks...
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I think it would be unfair to say the swiss lot wanted passenger flights. I believe that to be the opposite end of the spectrum to what they wanted, and they did state they would certinally never want a low cost airline. There is pressure from other sources as well, if you were Coventry CC you would much prefer to have a 'proper' airport that had passangers and everything, rather than a dirty old freight stop full of hangers that it should be.
We shall wait and see but i think alot of people will find themselves stepping off this rollercoaster here!
We shall wait and see but i think alot of people will find themselves stepping off this rollercoaster here!
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Originally Posted by WindSwept
This obviously is all based on whether anyone can put up with the standpoint of Warwickshire CC....
WDC are the planning authority for CVT; and it was they who spent considerable sums of tax payers money on the various planning inquests & hearings.
WCC are the unitary authority for Warwickshire; and have responsibility for highways, fire & rescue, schools, trading standards etc. I am not sure if they cover the roads around and/or fire & rescue for CVT or whether this is covered by West Mids Fire & Coventry City Council / Highways Agency (A45 is a trunk road). However, it was not them who have previously made CVT's life quite hard.
They are two very very different organisations - at least one of them is competent, reasonable and understands the level of their own importance.
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I had heard the Birmingham idea and posted it as it is as barmy as so many of the ideas thrown up by this thread.
Reality check that is what is needed. Skypartners has hit it spot on in his last post.
Reality check that is what is needed. Skypartners has hit it spot on in his last post.