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I think airliners like TOM etc. will be doing a lot more 'W' routes in the Next coming years as the try to reduce crew bases.
Won't be surprised if we see only 3 or 4 crew bases soon (expecting MAN, LGW, BHX and maybe NCL where there are some bigger crew bases)
Won't be surprised if we see only 3 or 4 crew bases soon (expecting MAN, LGW, BHX and maybe NCL where there are some bigger crew bases)
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The one big problem with w patterns though is the need to transfer crews back to their home base which can be rather expensive.
I suspect Thomson will continue to consolidate at their main bases and cut down their regional departures including w patterns. Look at LPL and MME - not so long ago had bases, next summer they just have a weekly PMI flight with Thomson Holidays and thats it. LBA also lost its based aircraft, HUY has seen a pull down by Thomson. Looks like CWL is getting cutback too
I suspect Thomson will continue to consolidate at their main bases and cut down their regional departures including w patterns. Look at LPL and MME - not so long ago had bases, next summer they just have a weekly PMI flight with Thomson Holidays and thats it. LBA also lost its based aircraft, HUY has seen a pull down by Thomson. Looks like CWL is getting cutback too
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sorry cant believe that there is only one 737 based next year. have you checked all the flying times and what proof do you have that tom are basing 1 737.
Next summers schedule was based on 2 aircraft. The programme may/will change now that only 1 aircraft is there.
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Crew certainly cannot do LGW-PMI-CVT-PMI-LGW so please stop giving them ideas. We work hard enough without having this sort of thing on our rosters!
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Thing about Thomsonfly and Leeds was they thought they could entice their loyal customers down to Robin Hood as a departure point instead of Leeds !! but it just left a nice big gap for Jet2 to mop up the market ! Might be making the same mistake at other regionals as well ! Hope for their employees that is not the case !
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What is 0523 cov man on?
Cov Man,
Do I assume from your latest post that BMI Baby will be commencing flights from CVT?
Is that in addition to Ryanair or instead of?
Maybe you should get a PC with a breathalyser
S78
Do I assume from your latest post that BMI Baby will be commencing flights from CVT?
Is that in addition to Ryanair or instead of?
Maybe you should get a PC with a breathalyser
S78
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air humberside you all ways like bad news get a life flights will be on ww
0523 cov man
0523 cov man
And for the record I would like all airports to do well but I have learnt that there is no point making things to seem better than they are
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Originally Posted by JamesP
sorry cant believe that there is only one 737 based next year. have you checked all the flying times and what proof do you have that tom are basing 1 737.
It has been confirmed in company communications to pilots that a further aircraft will be removed bringing the total down to one, also the pilot basings and fleet type changes for next summer have been held back to withold further information surrounding CVT pending official announcements- maybe a complete withdrawal?
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ok you might have me on a slight technicalality!! ( an old derek and clive gag ) so cvt is having one 737 based there. is this because of the terminal. if cvt gets the terminal will tom continue to operate from cvt or are there moving out. rumour has tom has 3 or 4 yrs in their contract to stay at cvt. p.s... i heard jet2 and easyjet are the two arlines wanting to come to cvt if cvt get the terminal. pax numbers are at cvt, it puzzles me why airlines ( tom and wizz ) are being so cautious about cvt.
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Jet2 come to Coventry?
They have 737-300's, average age over 20 years and not particularly fuel efficient and they would be up against Ryanair just 12 miles down the road who would ruthlessly target every route they set up.
I would imagine Jet2's priority at the moment is to survive.
Thomsonfly gives every impression of winding down at CVT, even their present S09 timetable seems to indicate a reduction, typically in August 09 they have about 120 departures which is 37 down on August this year.
On no days will they have more than five flights but on every day there will be at least three.
To me this seems the worst of all worlds for the airport because the staff costs will remain the same but with a big reduction in revenue.
They have 737-300's, average age over 20 years and not particularly fuel efficient and they would be up against Ryanair just 12 miles down the road who would ruthlessly target every route they set up.
I would imagine Jet2's priority at the moment is to survive.
Thomsonfly gives every impression of winding down at CVT, even their present S09 timetable seems to indicate a reduction, typically in August 09 they have about 120 departures which is 37 down on August this year.
On no days will they have more than five flights but on every day there will be at least three.
To me this seems the worst of all worlds for the airport because the staff costs will remain the same but with a big reduction in revenue.
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Jet2 wouldn't really bother FR if they started fling from CVT. Why would they care about a small airline flying from a small airport?
You would be surprised at how well placed Jet2 are compared to the likes of Ryanair. Yes, ryanair have the bigger bank balance but as long as Jet2 keep filling their planes I would be VERY surprised to see them disappear.
You would be surprised at how well placed Jet2 are compared to the likes of Ryanair. Yes, ryanair have the bigger bank balance but as long as Jet2 keep filling their planes I would be VERY surprised to see them disappear.
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You say that Ryanair would not be worried because CVT is a small airport and Jet2 a small airline?
try telling EOS, Silverjet and Maxjet that- AA are massive compared to Ryanair and in comparison to the usual airports and bases AA have STN is just as small to them as CVT is to Ryanair.
But look what happened? AA flooded the STN-NYC market with low fares just long enough to see off the aforementioned great airlines.
Dont underestimate any airline- they are all competitors and at a time when every filled seat counts, no one is beneath the radar not even Jet2.
Jet2 don't have any incomming aircraft to their fleet, so would have to have a major reshuffle to accomodate a basing at CVT or operate the previously mentioned expensive W patterns...
try telling EOS, Silverjet and Maxjet that- AA are massive compared to Ryanair and in comparison to the usual airports and bases AA have STN is just as small to them as CVT is to Ryanair.
But look what happened? AA flooded the STN-NYC market with low fares just long enough to see off the aforementioned great airlines.
Dont underestimate any airline- they are all competitors and at a time when every filled seat counts, no one is beneath the radar not even Jet2.
Jet2 don't have any incomming aircraft to their fleet, so would have to have a major reshuffle to accomodate a basing at CVT or operate the previously mentioned expensive W patterns...
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Personally, I don't think we will see LS at CVT but that was one of the worst examples I have ever seen. How can you compare AA starting a route from STN to JFK soley because of Maxjet, Silverjet and EOS?! Because it affected their LHR loads? Rubbish.
A good example would be the way in which FR bullied MytravelLite until it dissappeared. Or how they pushed EZY off of the Irish routes.
A good example would be the way in which FR bullied MytravelLite until it dissappeared. Or how they pushed EZY off of the Irish routes.
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Whats rubbish about the AA example? David (or three Davids) tried to get a share of the LON-NYC market. Goliath (AA) as a major player in the market did what it needed to protect market share
I can't see Jet 2 (passenger side) going to CVT because they currently seem to be consolidating with a more 'focused flying programme'. Setting up a new base, especially one outside of Jet 2's Northern UK 'heartland' doesn't fit into that.
Sadly CVT's options for replacement airlines seem rather limited if TOM do pull out, and the current climate makes it even harder to attract new airlines and services. Hope it doesn't end up in a Manston situation with freight and the odd passenger flight
I can't see Jet 2 (passenger side) going to CVT because they currently seem to be consolidating with a more 'focused flying programme'. Setting up a new base, especially one outside of Jet 2's Northern UK 'heartland' doesn't fit into that.
Sadly CVT's options for replacement airlines seem rather limited if TOM do pull out, and the current climate makes it even harder to attract new airlines and services. Hope it doesn't end up in a Manston situation with freight and the odd passenger flight